Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
Thank you for being gracious as well as intelligent.
We need to all do what we can to ( ultimately) save
But there's more than one way to skin a RINO. Focus on The House and more unlikely the Senate. The House Republicans can hold the line and deserve our support.
Even if you don't vote for Romney support your local Republican candidates!
I’m with you on Palin. Too bad that she’s not the nominee this year. We really need a strong person to clean house and get things in order again.
I agree with Jim that we need to do what we have to this time, try to help every tea party candidate we know get elected, and then we need to continue to let the elites know their days are numbered.
Question: Is there a way that we, the people, can get a referendum on the ballots to have term limits? It is obvious that the Congress will not vote that in themselves. What recourse do we have? We are NOT being served by these ruling class politicians. They believe that they have a right to stay as long as they please. We have to have a voice in this.
We need to pool all our resources toward defeating Obama and then, after the election, we need to put all our effort into changing the RNC and getting conservatives ahead of the RINOS around the country.
I also eagerly await the response to your question.
Well said, Big Guy. Even if we can’t vote for Romney—and I honestly don’t know if I will vote for him until I step in the booth on Election Day—we MUST get out the vote and support conservatives at all levels in all offices. Federal, state, local, from Senator down to dogcatcher. City and county councils, school boards, judges, boards of supervisors, statewide Constitutional offices, everything. If we can’t put a conservative at the top, let’s start at the bottom and work from there.
Fair enough, but I still won’t vote for Romney come November.
I need the ability to donate with a visa debit as that is the only plastic I use.
I’m just sick to death of having to hold my nose when I vote though.
You are on the right track.
Mitt Romney needs to face the Mother of All Primary Battles in 2016, regardless of how things stand in the country.
Yes, But Which Ticket?
Willard will bring the GOP into a Left of Center Party, now Sarah and other true Blue Conservatives may be able to pull it back, but the question remains, is the GOP worth the effort?
My Answer is increasingly "No" like the Whigs before them, they are completely willing to sit back and ignore the issues that face us, in order not to make waves. I therefore suggest Secession from the GOP from our continued union.
With Ubama's tyranny growing more and more bold everyday, we live in a very dangerous time, how long until the Dems don't need the Red States to win elections? Then we have NO voice.
—It wolud be nice to have four more years to stock up on ammo then...guns are on the to do list for Barry if he wins.—
If we take the full congress he’ll have a hard time doing anything. The only reason he gets away with what he does is that the congress does not use their constitutional authority to slap him back into reality. With the R’s controlling it, they would, assuming the R’s have grown a pair since the Trent Lott days.
the tea party ain’t goin anywhere....
this tea party festival in September is expectin 50 to 80 k people and the very best of our conservative base will be speakin
as well busses from select regions will provide transportation to and from
The only way to affect a process is to engage in the process.
I still believe a brokered convention is still possible for Palin to enter if Romney faulters between now and then.