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Mourdock up 10 over Lugar, 48/38, four days before Indiana primary
Hot Air ^ | may 4, 2012 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 05/04/2012 8:17:46 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Indystar calls this latest poll result a “dramatic slide,” and is it ever. Incumbent Senator Dick Lugar led the race in the last iteration of the Howey/DePauw poll by seven points. Today, he’s trailing by ten, and Lugar has only four days to turn it around:

The Howey/DePauw Indiana Battleground Poll, conducted by two prominent Republican and Democratic pollsters, shows Mourdock with a 48 percent to 38 percent lead over Lugar. …

The poll shows a dramatic slide for Lugar, who in his last election in 2006 won with more than 80 percent of the vote after Democrats considered him so unbeatable that they didn’t field a candidate against him.

Only about a month ago, a Howey/DePauw Battleground poll showed Lugar leading Mourdock 42 percent to 35 percent.

When voters who were not solid in their support for a candidate yet and were merely leaning in one direction or the other are removed, Mourdock is still leading 43 percent to 35 percent over Lugar.

If Lugar loses by this kind of margin on Tuesday, he won’t be the only one embarrassed by the loss. Outgoing Governor Mitch Daniels has campaigned for Lugar, especially over the last few weeks, cutting TV ads for Lugar’s campaign. A loss would also be a rebuke to Daniels, and could hurt his standing in the GOP down the road with the grassroots and the establishment. Gubernatorial candidate Mike Pence was smarter, refusing two months ago to endorse anyone in the Senate primary:

“I’ve known both men and respected both men for more than 20 years, and I think that when you have two good choices in a primary, you ought to let voters decide,” he said. “I consider Richard Lugar a mentor and a friend, and Richard Mourdock is someone I have admired as well.”

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; indiana; lugar; senate

1 posted on 05/04/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

RINO’s are spineless and gutless, IMO. Our nation needs men and women with spine and guts to undo the RAT tyranny.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 8:21:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Hojczyk

This is the only way to combat Obama, the Dims and the RINOs. Inject Congress with a majority of true Conservatives.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:33 AM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Hojczyk

Yes he is, and we have been working out asses off here in hoosierland to make that happen.

The champagne will flow like water at our county Republican meeting when they call the election for Mourdock.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:48 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Hojczyk

Lugar = loser.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 8:25:18 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We are in interesting times. It is not about getting R’s over democrats. It is about getting conservatives over liberal R’s. And it seems to be working.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 8:25:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Will he pull a Specter.


7 posted on 05/04/2012 8:28:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Hojczyk

Another point, Lugar went negative the last few weeks hard, really hard, against Mourdock. I think a lot of Hoosiers got turned off by those attack ads he is runner now and see Lugar for what he really is, a spoiled old elitist who refuses to give up the perks he feels he so rightly deserves now.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 8:28:34 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: manic4organic

Yup. I live in the next district over from Fred Upton but I’m pulling for the candidate with the funny name.(Jack Hoogendyk)


9 posted on 05/04/2012 8:31:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Hojczyk

Here is where we win, in the legislature.

We get Obama the hell out and get real conservatives in power in the legislature to block a week liberal president, and the shenanigans will stop.

I live to see the day that the likes of Mclame and Bonehead and their ilk are no longer of importance.


10 posted on 05/04/2012 8:35:58 AM PDT by crz
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Would not surprise me.


11 posted on 05/04/2012 8:37:07 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Hojczyk

Lugar started his “dramatic slide” years ago. I am so ready to vote out that RINO next Tuesday.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 8:38:09 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Hojczyk; Jim Robinson

Woo hoo! Proof that the Tea Party movement of conservatism is alive and well. Let’s win everywhere we can and incrementally gain on the moderates. We may lose a battle for the POTUS nominee but let’s keep winning for the long term in the House, Senate and at the local level.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 8:40:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Hojczyk
Peggy Noonan was trying to resurrect Dick Lugar’s faltering campaign in an article “The Case for Dick Lugar” in the May 2, 2012, WSJ. That Lugar is loosing big is great. This old dinosaur should have been put down years ago.
14 posted on 05/04/2012 8:41:05 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: crz

Congressional leadership needs to be targeted whenever possible.

Personally, I’d do away with this “freshman” crap and treat them like adults. Eliminate prize committee appointments to senior members etc.


15 posted on 05/04/2012 8:42:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Abathar

Told my Republican Women’s group in Texas last night to put in an extra request to God for Murdock’s success and to donate $$. They tend to pay almost no attention to politics in other states and I’m doing my best to educate them. Kudos to you all for all your hard work. We have some RINO’s of our own to get rid of and it’s a long, slow process.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 8:43:07 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Hojczyk
Peggy Noonan was trying to resurrect Dick Lugar’s faltering campaign in an article “The Case for Dick Lugar” in the May 3, 2012, WSJ. That Lugar is loosing big is great. This old dinosaur should have been put down years ago.
17 posted on 05/04/2012 8:43:45 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Hojczyk

Daily Kos libs are licking their chops at the idea of Lugar being defeated.

It makes the slug Donnelly a contender, and they think they can flip the seat in November.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 8:43:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Hojczyk

The TV ads are so over the top around here.

I’m hoping we can unseat Lugar. And Pence will make a great gov.

Only angst I have.... Will Murdoch get elected in the general? I assume so, but.... We’ll see.

I get to go vote in our primary next week to. Who should I vote for as a presidential GOP candidate now that my vote means nothing?


19 posted on 05/04/2012 8:44:22 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Abathar
Really happy for you, and all your fellow Hoosier conservatives. For a 6 term senator, to go from running unopposed last time out, to losing his primary this time..shows that we are starting to make a difference, and will continue to do so.

I have a few questgions..hope you won't mind.. Do you see any chance that Lugar will run as an independent? Has he publicly pledged to support the GOP nominee?

You have several really interesting House races this year.Specifically:

1. 2ndCD..Can Walorski win the primary, and has redistricting made it more GOP friendly?

2. 4thCD..Will Rokita win the primary? What about Landske?

3. 5thCD. Who do you like in the GOP primary? Any recent polls?

4. 6thCD. Same questions as in the 5thCD.

5. 7thCD/ ANY chance we can send the Carson family home for good? Do we have a candidate?

6. 8thCD..Can Kristi Risk do it? ( Note: I've already sent her a check) and can the GOP candidate win the general?

Many thanks..

20 posted on 05/04/2012 8:46:50 AM PDT by ken5050 (FRACK Obama!!!)
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To: Hojczyk


Rino hunting bump.
21 posted on 05/04/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: tcrlaf
It makes the slug Donnelly a contender, and they think they can flip the seat in November.

In 2010 Murdouch got more votes than Donnelly in Donnelly's congressional district.

22 posted on 05/04/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: cripplecreek

You know well what I posted on the Mich thread on this. I saw it happen to a personal friend of mine who is now the congressman for Mi 1.

Funny thing, not very many understand that when elected, you go to DC and they threaten you the very minute you get sworn in. Either you play the game, or you dont get shit. Its like the Amish shunning their own.

To break this, it must be treated like dealing with the mob. A national strike by the truckers would go a long way to put an end to this.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 9:00:21 AM PDT by crz
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To: Hojczyk

Please God, let this be true!

I yearn again for the days when the Foreign Relations Committe was chaired by a real conservative like Jesse Helms, who gaveled idiot John Kerry into silence.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: tcrlaf
Daily Kos libs are licking their chops at the idea of Lugar being defeated. It makes the slug Donnelly a contender, and they think they can flip the seat in November.

Not happening. Indiana is going to be solid red this time, including the Senate race. Anyone with a D after their name is going to have a lot of trouble getting votes. Hoosiers are really angry at Obama and at the state Dems who cut and ran last year when they did not want to let a vote on right-to-work take place. Indiana is going to be bright red in most districts. The cities of Indianapolis and Gary (suburb of Chicago) will be the exceptions.
25 posted on 05/04/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by TerriHaute
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To: crz
Funny thing, not very many understand that when elected, you go to DC and they threaten you the very minute you get sworn in. Either you play the game, or you dont get shit. Its like the Amish shunning their own.

That's why I allow a little softness from freshmen. If the jello spine continues into a second term, they gotta go.

My congressman is a second time freshman because the party threw him overboard in 08 for opposing the party line on bank bailouts.
26 posted on 05/04/2012 9:06:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Abathar

Losing Peyton must have been quite a blow. In more ways than one, a little Luck may strike hoosierdom again on Tuesday.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 9:08:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Hojczyk
Good news. Lugar was a big pusher of the New Start treaty with Russia, best he is gone as Russia becomes more demanding. He was on a trip with Senator Obama when O's passport was taken. Another Obama establishment RINO enabler.
28 posted on 05/04/2012 9:11:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: TerriHaute

You forget Fort Wayne, And South Bend, too. Evansville is the only reliable “R” large city in Indiana.

If Dems think they have a chance to win this seat, they will poor MILLIONS in to it. Have you forgotten Delaware? And the Dems will use the same lies Lugar is using against Mourdock.

I’m going to be filling in the circle for M, I think. But I have no illusions about what this election is going to be like.

Our BIG saving grace is Future Presidential Candidate Mike Pence. Indiana Dems are already going ape-s**t over him. He can command the TV much better than even Daniels does.


29 posted on 05/04/2012 9:11:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: ken5050

We have a spoilsport law here, he can’t switch to an independent now.

1 - Not too sure, Donnelly almost fell in ‘10, but I think they may hold this year, IMHO.

2 - I think Rokita will win myself, Buyer had large shoes to fill but most people I talk to think he is doing a good job, I am voting for him myself, I live in the 4th.

3 - Burton really threw me, I think Susan Brooks might have a good chance, again imho but that is the chatter I keep hearing.

4 - Messer has the name recognition, my money will be on him.

5 - Carson? Snowball’s chance in hell we can get him out of there. Like his Grandma he will be in there until he dies

6 - I would love to see her do it, but nope, Bucshon will take it.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 9:26:35 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
Wow! Congratulations to all you Hoosiers in engineering a quick turnaround. I'm looking forward to as good a Tuesday night as last week, when we Pennsylvanians gave the GOP establishment the finger and put their Senate pick in third place behind two TEA party Republicans.

Ever since Specter switched parties, I've found Lugar to be the second most annoying GOP senator after Juan McLame. Once he's gone, Lindsay Graham will move up to the number two spot. I'm willing to cut the weak sisters from Maine and Scott Brown a little slack since they represent ultra-liberal constituencies.

31 posted on 05/04/2012 9:33:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Abathar

The champagne will flow like water at our county Republican meeting when they call the election for Mourdock.

It appears the hard work of you and those like u in Indiana grassroots may deliver a knockout to Lugar. Thanks for the hard work.

I wish we had some “Mourdocks” running in Tn against Coker and Alexander. Alexander MUST GO!


32 posted on 05/04/2012 9:36:00 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Abathar
Many thanks for the info....

When you post about the primary,a s I'm sure you will..if you remember..ping me..

33 posted on 05/04/2012 9:43:37 AM PDT by ken5050 (FRACK Obama!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

What are the odds that Lugar so loves “his” senate seat that he will either run as an independent or as a Democrat?


34 posted on 05/04/2012 9:46:42 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ken5050

Tuesday night I will be working the polls, I hope to be on here after the post party though.


35 posted on 05/04/2012 9:53:47 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Hojczyk

Karl Rove foot-stamping hissy fit commencing in 3......2.......1.......


36 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hojczyk

Lugar = TARP voter

Bye bye


37 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Hojczyk

This is exactly what we need all over the country. A significant Conservative representation in the senate. This is the only way anything will get turned around in this country.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 10:13:17 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: crz
Funny thing, not very many understand that when elected, you go to DC and they threaten you the very minute you get sworn in. Either you play the game, or you dont get ...

Then if you have any courage you fight. You fight and at least make your party leaders pay for their arrogance. And if things go right and you keep the fight up, the leadership will have to deal with a hostile freshman and sophomore class of representatives and senators on the next election.

39 posted on 05/04/2012 10:16:24 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Indiana has a “sore loser” law. If you run and lose in the primary, you’re done.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 10:36:08 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: tennmountainman

“.......I wish we had some “Mourdocks” running in Tn against Coker and Alexander. Alexander MUST GO!”
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Their time will come if they try to obstruct the ongoing realignment/change in composition of Senate Republicans from majority RINO/CINO to majority TRUE CONSERVATIVE. That change in composition will, in turn, lead to a change in Senate Republican leadership. Won’t that be wonderful!


41 posted on 05/04/2012 11:03:54 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: tcrlaf

First of all, Ft. Wayne went R in 2008, despite all the other big towns voting D for Obama.

Secondly, Donnelly barely managed to beat Walorski in his 2010 congressional race.

Thirdly, the only reason Donnelly is in contention this time is because Mourdock doesn’t have the same name recognition as Lugar. Once Mourdock beats Lugar, that should change some.

Finally, Mike Pence should have huge coattails.

I like Mourdock’s chances.


42 posted on 05/04/2012 11:07:43 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: tcrlaf

I disagree with your contention that Evansville is the only reliable R town. In my personal observation over the years, the only reliable D towns/areas are Indianapolis and the region (Gary/South Bend). Normally, Indiana votes conservative for national offices. 2008 was an exception (much to my embarrassment). Most large towns went D in 2008 because of the youth vote. The towns that went D all have universities. In the case of Terre Haute, there are three.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 11:27:33 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: KarlInOhio

“Then if you have any courage you fight. You fight and at least make your party leaders pay for their arrogance.”

And all the while you watch as they leave your district behind. Your district, that means every single thing that may come to the floor for the house for a vote will not count for your district.

There are those who have courage and are fools, and there are those that have courage and are devious. Looks as if you are for the former which will leave you standing with nothing to show for your trouble. In this regard, I have to give it to Ron Paul. The SOB knew how to game the system and got away with it. This isnt a union of states any longer.


44 posted on 05/04/2012 3:06:12 PM PDT by crz
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To: cripplecreek

That works just fine when you have a conservative district. Do that in another district and you will find yourself with a socialist as your rep giving handouts to his pals. Much like Stupak did.


45 posted on 05/04/2012 3:09:17 PM PDT by crz
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