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Reward offered in death of Lightning Medicine Cloud
greenville herald banner ^ | 5/4/12 | Brad Kellar

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:36 PM PDT by mylife

May 4, 2012 Reward offered in death of Lightning Medicine Cloud

By BRAD KELLAR CNHI

GREENVILLE — A grieving Arby Little Soldier announced Friday a $5,000 reward has been posted for information leading to the person or persons responsible for the deaths of Lightning Medicine Cloud, a white buffalo sacred to Native Americans, and his mother.

"The people have taken the heart of a spiritual situation here," Little Soldier said.

During a press conference at the Lakota Ranch near Greenville, investigators looking into the deaths declined to release any details as to how the buffaloes died, other than to confirm that a criminal probe was underway, involving the Hunt County Sheriff's Office, the Texas Rangers and the federal Department of Indian Affairs.

Sheriff Randy Meeks did not comment on reports aired by a Dallas television station concerning the case.

"We are still early into the investigation and I'm not at liberty to say," Meeks said, adding a veterinarian was called to the ranch upon the discovery of the bodies. "We have not received that report yet."

Next week's Native American Powwow, which had been scheduled at the ranch to celebrate Lightning Medicine Cloud's first birthday, will still be presented.

"We are now going to celebrate his memorial," Little Soldier said.


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KEYWORDS: senslesskilling; texas; whitebuffalo
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Earlier this week someone shot and killed Lighning Medice Cloud and his mother just outside of town on the Lakota ranch.
The Texas Dept of Parks and wildlife and The Dept of Homeland Security have been called into the investigation.


1 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:47 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Sad. There are some sick people out there.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:38 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: mylife

I would like to see the results of the necropsies before jumping to the conclusion that the deaths were caused by criminal activity.

I don’t know about Texas and ranchers problems with poisonaous weeds, but there are plants here in the Pacific Northwest that can sicken and kill livestock. Those plants are a big problem for cattalemen, or anyone owning grazing livestock.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:59 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: mylife

When I looked above the canyon wall,
some strong eyes did I see.
I think its somebody comin’ around
to save my ass,baby.
I think...I think he’s comin’ around
to save you and me.

Boys......
I said, above the canyon wall...
strong eyes did glow.
It was the leader of the land,baby.
OH MY GOD,
The GREAT WHITE BUFFALO.....
LOOK OUT!!!! LOOK OUT!!!!!!!


4 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:59 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: mylife

some devil worshipper touched the wrong sacrifice. There is going to be hell to pay


5 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:10 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Yes, and I am shocked it happen here.
This is not an albino buffalo.
It is a true white buffalo.


6 posted on 05/04/2012 6:55:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

The Department of Homeland Security? You’ve got to be ****ting me. It’s obvious that those bozos down at DHS don’t have enough to do. Time to bring out the ax. What if this buffalo was “sacred” to Christians. Would DHS get involved?


7 posted on 05/04/2012 6:55:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: SatinDoll

The local chatter is that they were shot dead.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 6:56:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: yldstrk

My first thought was that it was about a religious dispute.

But I don’t understand why The Dept Of Homeland Security has been called into the investigation

http://heraldbanner.com/topnews/x1378309160/Breaking-Sheriff-investigating-report-of-livestock-death


9 posted on 05/04/2012 6:59:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: TurboZamboni

Uncle Ted’s gonna be pissed!
I’m pissed!


10 posted on 05/04/2012 7:00:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I am not ****ing you!
Read post #9


11 posted on 05/04/2012 7:01:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Local chatter...”

That is anecdotal, you know, gossip. A necropsy would be official.

This is totally incidental, but forty years ago my windshield was shot out while driving in the Oregon countryside. It was an accident - thankfully no one was hurt except for a ‘dead’ windshield - but it was done by a couple practising target shooting. All it takes is a ricochet.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 7:01:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

I know people that know the ranchers.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 7:03:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Uh-huh.

Remember all the anger surrounding the Trayvon Martin shooting?

Keep cool.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 7:06:01 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: mylife

dang, I remember reading about the birth. why the hell kill them? what a nut.


15 posted on 05/04/2012 7:06:58 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: mylife

some “terrorist” killed him?


16 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:30 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

BTW the Sheriff Randy Meeks is a Republican and I voted for him.

It remains unclear to me how DHS became involved but I’ll be asking some questions.

Early voting is happening now and I planned to vote next Tues.
I may have to wait for the scheduled vote 5/29 to get some answers


17 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: visualops

It’s senseless. and the thing wasn’t eve a year old.
The Buffalo was drawing people from around the world here.

Harrison Ford came to see it


18 posted on 05/04/2012 7:10:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SatinDoll
There are a lot of folks in Texas and Oklahoma strongly invested in a white buffalo living, and a lot of folks invested in making sure that doesn't happen.

It's a religious and cultural thing. I'd bet on humans causing the death.

/johnny

19 posted on 05/04/2012 7:11:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SatinDoll

Sheriff Meeks is being cautious in making statements until the report is in.

But I am just injecting what I have been told by close sources.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 7:13:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“It’s a religious and cultural thing. I’d bet on humans causing the death.”

Could you expand on this subject, as it seems regional. As I already said, I’m in the Pacific Northwest and here salmon fishing is so important it borders on ‘salmon worship’.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 7:14:53 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: yldstrk

I did not say that.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 7:14:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

DHS probably jumped in because the DOJ decided not to suit up since it was only a WHITE buffalo...


23 posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: mylife
I've met Randy briefly when I was working in that part of the world and still stumping for Republicans, and he is a good guy. I imagine he's taking this seriously.

It's a big hairy deal to some cultures/religions.

/johnny

24 posted on 05/04/2012 7:16:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yldstrk

I honestly don’t understand why DHS is involved.


25 posted on 05/04/2012 7:16:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can’t think of a reason why people would kill it other than just senseless killin or someone objected to people considering the animal sacred.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 7:18:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

obviously because they want to be involved. They are pretending that the killing was perhaps a “terrorist” attack. Just like they pretend whenever they want to take control of anything.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 7:19:32 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Security camera video....

8^)

28 posted on 05/04/2012 7:22:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It's a big hairy deal to some cultures/religions.

I understand.
Heck this is the land of "Cowboy" Churches.

What I don't understand is why DHS is involved.

29 posted on 05/04/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: BenLurkin

Heh heh heh. Wild Bill got ‘em!


30 posted on 05/04/2012 7:25:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I could almost understand DOJ getting involved “hate crime” (I dont agree with the notion, but I could see it) But DHS? WTF!!?


31 posted on 05/04/2012 7:26:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: yldstrk

It’s crazy!


32 posted on 05/04/2012 7:28:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SatinDoll
It's long and complicated. The Ghost Dance was the reason for Wounded Knee. The Lakota consider the White Buffalo sacred, and required for a world reset.

This has been going on since the 1800s.

As I said, it's a big deal for some folks, on both sides of the issue.

/johnny

33 posted on 05/04/2012 7:42:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife
The only thing I can think of is that is is Lakota nation business. That makes it 'international' in scope.

/johnny

34 posted on 05/04/2012 7:44:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“...required for a world reset.”

What does that mean? All white people die?


35 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll
If I knew what 'purify the world' meant, I'd have a PhD. I'm just reporting what I've observed and been told. I'm a cook that was married to a Cherokee for a while.

Folks were killed over the Ghost Dance religious observance at Wounded Knee, so this is nothing new, and actually somewhat milder. No wimmen or children were killed.

All I'm trying to say is that for some folks it is a big hairy deal.

/johnny

36 posted on 05/04/2012 7:51:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
and a lot of folks invested in making sure that doesn't happen

could you shed some light on that? your posts are so vague as to be pretty useless to those of us without the secret knowledge.
37 posted on 05/04/2012 7:51:44 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops
Can't shed light that I don't have. I was married for some years to a Cherokee, and heard the stories, saw the rituals, etc... But understand it? No.

But I do know it is very important to some.

/johnny

38 posted on 05/04/2012 7:57:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t understand the Indian Nations, but the Lakota clearly thought the white buffalo was sacred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Buffalo_Calf_Woman


39 posted on 05/04/2012 8:01:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The next town over is Caddo Mills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance


40 posted on 05/04/2012 8:10:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You intimated that some people would have reason to see to it the buffalo did not survive. So you have no reason or anything to have said that? no knowledge or facts? why say it?


41 posted on 05/04/2012 8:15:23 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: visualops

It’s complicated, like the Jewish Red Heifer


42 posted on 05/04/2012 8:20:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

My friend’s son recieved a letter today on a traffic ticket he had recieved. The letterhead and on the envelop was the Department of Safety and HOMELAND SECURITY. Since when did the federal government get involved in a traffic violation. This is in the state of Tennessee.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: SatinDoll
What does that mean? All white people die?

Yes. They believed if they did the Ghost Dance and the white buffalo came the land would rise up like a wave and bury all the whites.

44 posted on 05/04/2012 8:26:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Rare-White-Buffalo-Killed-on-Texas-Ranch-150200805.html


45 posted on 05/04/2012 8:27:49 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: ladyL

Bizarre.


46 posted on 05/04/2012 8:28:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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NBC 5 says the animals were skinned


47 posted on 05/04/2012 8:32:15 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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NBC 5 says the animals were skinned.

This was premeditated.


48 posted on 05/04/2012 8:32:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That rules out poisonous plants, coyotes and sadistic eff-heads. You got rustlers!


49 posted on 05/04/2012 8:34:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: visualops
Yes, I do know that there is a history of the Federal Government trying to suppress native religions, locals that want to supress local religions (including one of my grandparents), and natives that are working against the prophecy.

I said it wasn't simple. And it isn't simple to explain.

/johnny

50 posted on 05/04/2012 8:35:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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