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Amish farm kids remarkably immune to allergies: study
Reuters ^ | May 4, 2012 | Kerry Grens

Posted on 05/04/2012 10:07:46 PM PDT by neverdem

Amish children raised on rural farms in northern Indiana suffer from asthma and allergies less often even than Swiss farm kids, a group known to be relatively free from allergies, according to a new study.

"The rates are very, very low," said Dr. Mark Holbreich, the study's lead author. "So there's something that we feel is even more protective in the Amish" than in European farming communities.

What it is about growing up on farms -- and Amish farms in particular -- that seems to prevent allergies remains unclear.

Researchers have long observed the so-called "farm effect" -- the low allergy and asthma rates found among kids raised on farms -- in central Europe, but less is known about the influence of growing up on North American farms.

Holbreich, an allergist in Indianapolis, has been treating Amish communities in Indiana for two decades, but he noticed that very few Amish actually had any allergies.

As studies on the farm effect in Europe began to emerge several years ago, Holbreich wondered if the same phenomenon might be found in the United States.

He teamed up with European colleagues to compare Swiss farming children and non-farming children to Amish kids in Indiana.

Amish families, who can trace their roots back to Switzerland, typically farm using methods from the 1800s and they don't own cars or televisions.

The researchers surveyed 157 Amish families, about 3,000 Swiss farming families, and close to 11,000 Swiss families who did not live on a farm -- all with children between the ages of six and 12.

They found that just five percent of Amish kids had been diagnosed with asthma, compared to 6.8 percent of Swiss farm kids and 11.2 percent of the other Swiss children.

Similarly, among 138 Amish kids given a skin-prick test to determine...

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Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, online April 16, 2012. "Amish children living in Northern Indiana have a very low prevalence of allergic sensitization" no abstract

1 posted on 05/04/2012 10:07:59 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I was raised on an Iowa farm and never had allergies until I moved to the city.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 10:14:35 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: neverdem
"So there's something that we feel is even more protective in the Amish" than in European farming communities.

Yeah, my guess is that the "something" is the fact that those kids are outdoors a lot, playing and working and getting dirty, giving their immune systems plenty to deal with so those immune systems don't go into panic mode any time a peanut gets within 100 yards.
3 posted on 05/04/2012 10:15:42 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: neverdem

likely because they drink unpasteurized milk.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 10:18:48 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: neverdem

It’s very obvious, the Amish follow the “three second rule”. And they do it on a Farm...


5 posted on 05/04/2012 10:19:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: neverdem

“Holbreich, an allergist in Indianapolis, has been treating Amish communities in Indiana for two decades, but he noticed that very few Amish actually had any allergies.”

So, how many years did it take Dr. Holbreich to notice that he had no patients?


6 posted on 05/04/2012 10:23:19 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: neverdem

They also eat very little commercially processed foods.


7 posted on 05/04/2012 10:25:51 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: neverdem
They're eating and playing in dirt as kids, eating produce typically free of additives or pesticides, eating meat generally free of modification, probably getting stung regularly by insects.

The adaptability of the human body is a remarkable thing.

8 posted on 05/04/2012 10:26:21 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: neverdem

I’d wager that suburbia, with its gazillions of non-native plants from all over the world, is a hotbed of unfamiliar pollens.


9 posted on 05/04/2012 10:30:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

300 years of evolution. The Amish don’t have a leisure class.


10 posted on 05/04/2012 10:35:22 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
Amish farm kids remarkably immune to allergies: study

For exactly the same reason that rural African kids (and rural anywhere children) are remarkably immune to allergies (and what a dopey characterization that is): from an early age their immune system receives a remarkable challenge by a wide range of antigens.
11 posted on 05/04/2012 10:43:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ckilmer
likely because they drink unpasteurized milk.

More likely that their developing immune system is able to get a lot of challenges from a wide range of antigens. I don't know of any African kids from the bush that have ever shown any sort of allergy.
12 posted on 05/04/2012 10:47:58 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Abby4116

they do like hot dogs tho

http://amishamerica.com/what-do-amish-eat/

it is probably the exercise and raw milk - you can’t say they are sheltered from the outside world of germs (especially if they eat hot dogs)

I think most (like me) are fascinated by the fact that they are self sufficient and peaceful


13 posted on 05/04/2012 11:19:55 PM PDT by MaryLou1
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To: neverdem

There’s one reason. Food additatives and bio-engineering of seeds. Texas A&M grew a maroon carrot and a maroon blue bonnet flower. This crap ain’t normal and it’s changing our systems. I grew up without A/C which meant we slept with the windows open. We didn’t know what allergies were.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 11:21:52 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: neverdem

Did they compare non-Amish American farm kids to the Amish or the Swiss? That would help.


15 posted on 05/04/2012 11:21:52 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: ckilmer

not


16 posted on 05/04/2012 11:23:09 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: neverdem

And I forgot about bio-engineering of meat, poultry and fish. Before long you can buy your cow fat, lean or extra lean. And you’ll be able to buy your fish with tartar sauce already grown in.

Go to the store and buy some eggs. Some have more omega3 than others. How the hell does that happen? Does the chicken farmer go buy chickens and say “I want some of the omega3 chickens. I know they cost more but I can charge more for the eggs.”


17 posted on 05/04/2012 11:26:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Abby4116

A lot of you are buying the crapola served up by the food police crowd.

Cook balanced meals from scratch. Not much else to worry about.


18 posted on 05/04/2012 11:27:23 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: Notwithstanding

I would also hazard a guess that they don’t have wall to wall carpeting full of decaying detritus and the teeny vermin that feed upon it.

Nor do they live in overheated and overcooled little boxes stacked like cargo containers that are so over insulated in the name of energy efficiency that there is virtually no air movement except that pushed by fan motors through filters that are not cleaned regularly enough.

Bare floors, fresh air and playing in the dirt is a sweet combination for healthy living.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 11:38:13 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Notwithstanding; ckilmer
Government Data Proves Raw Milk Safe

“Using government figures for foodborne illness for the entire population, Dr. Beals has shown that you are about thirty-five thousand times more likely to get sick from other foods than you are from raw milk,” says Fallon Morell.

“It is irresponsible for senior national government officials to oppose raw milk, claiming that it is inherently hazardous,” says Dr. Beals. “There is no justification for opposing the sale of raw milk or warning against its inclusion in the diets of children and adults.”

21 posted on 05/04/2012 11:41:03 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Urban and suburban landscaping plants—trees in particular—are male, in order to avoid messy litter from blossoms and seeds. Male plants produce polin.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 11:42:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I heard Osama was unarmed and carrying a bag of "Skillets candy" when Obama shot him.)
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To: Notwithstanding

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that these homogenous genetic groups lost many of their allergy genes in the past due to childhood deaths caused by allergy aggravated illness.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 11:48:08 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I heard Osama was unarmed and carrying a bag of "Skillets candy" when Obama shot him.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Pollen


25 posted on 05/04/2012 11:49:18 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I heard Osama was unarmed and carrying a bag of "Skillets candy" when Obama shot him.)
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To: Hunton Peck

LOL!


28 posted on 05/04/2012 11:53:37 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I thinking housing their dogs and cats in barns, as opposed to animals living in your house has something to do with it as well.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 12:00:56 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Notwithstanding

Did you really expect people to read all that?

Seriously?

Maybe the Amish kids are less likely to have allergies because they play in real dirt all day.


30 posted on 05/05/2012 12:01:26 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: MaryLou1

Amish kids are regular kids,
They just have chores.


31 posted on 05/05/2012 12:01:42 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: MaryLou1

Amish kids aint sheltered at all


32 posted on 05/05/2012 12:02:43 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

What of Mennonites?

Quakers?

Whats the statistical skinny?


33 posted on 05/05/2012 12:05:21 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: Notwithstanding; Admin Moderator

Maybe next time post a link instead of destroying the thread.


34 posted on 05/05/2012 12:27:26 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Notwithstanding

I need to save this for someone. thanks.


35 posted on 05/05/2012 12:48:44 AM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: Terry Mross
Go to the store and buy some eggs. Some have more omega3 than others. How the hell does that happen?

It's what they feed the chickens. Chickens fed fish scraps high in omega 3 will pass on omega 3 in their eggs... More so than corn fed chickens.

36 posted on 05/05/2012 12:52:42 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Notwithstanding
Your logic: I condemn cars because of the many horror stories about injury. Be sure never to ride in one. And Always Obey Big Brother.

All of our family has drunk raw milk in our formative years. The source of the milk is key. German farmers (to name one group) tend to be meticulous in their cleanliness.

37 posted on 05/05/2012 12:59:05 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Tench_Coxe

The Amish also have remarkably low incidence of tooth decay.

They eat a simple wholesome diet not different than my grandparents.

As for myself I can’t refuse Key Lime pie. My dentist will attest to that!


38 posted on 05/05/2012 1:01:34 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: Notwithstanding

Wow - you’re really intent on getting that message out
there. . .
Kind of reminds me how the cereal industry went after the egg years ago - - - had some of us jumping thru hoops.

I don’t know what’s going on now-a-days with raw milk, or dairy’s producing it, but our 4 daughters were raised on raw milk in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, in southern Calif.

We consumed other raw dairy products, as well.

Who knows how responsible pasturized products, with all their chemical cocktails, may be the indirect cause of a host of illnesess for some people.

(Disclosure: Did not watch videos because my webtv/msntv system cannot play them).


39 posted on 05/05/2012 1:14:35 AM PDT by USARightSide ( SUPPORTING O U R TROOPS)
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To: w1andsodidwe
We moved from one part of the city to another and my one year old all of a sudden got an allergy.

Bless my old fashioned pediatrician who said no shots or meds...let her system fight it out. Two weeks later, she was fine.

She gets a touch every year, more like a runny nose...and that's it.

40 posted on 05/05/2012 1:16:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ckilmer
“likely because they drink unpasteurized milk.”

That's fresh, whole, raw milk. Plus they don't use chemicals or genetically modified organisisms. And we wonder why the Monsanto controlled government is after the.

41 posted on 05/05/2012 1:21:46 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: neverdem
What it is about growing up on farms -- and Amish farms in particular -- that seems to prevent allergies remains unclear.

According to the clonal selection theory of immune system function, substances that one encounters very early in life do not later generate a strong immune response.

42 posted on 05/05/2012 1:22:43 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Notwithstanding

No doubt that it can cause any of those things... so it must be uber fresh. I was thinking the however, in some dark parts of the world soldiers were given a large glass of infested water to drink and put on a cot. An IV could be started for hydration. What doesn’t kill us, only makes us more immune.. until our immune system stalls. As a microbiology minor, I would like my milk and other food zapped, flashed or irradiated to kill pathogens. I would drink raw milk, if I collected it fresh, as aseptically as possible. I do like the unmodified food though.


43 posted on 05/05/2012 2:19:06 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Notwithstanding

The key word there is “may.” It would be interesting to see how many Amish actually come down with that list of problems.


44 posted on 05/05/2012 2:20:24 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: neverdem

When I was a kid, there was this one kid that had allergies. The other kids didn’t even know what this meant.

I’ve wondered about the peanut allergy. No kids I knew in grade school or high school or college had peanut allergies that I knew of. Now they are all over the place. Years ago everyone freaked out since young kids choked on peanuts and they also choked on eating peanut butter straight. The advice was no peanuts until they are two or three.

I wonder if the delayed introduction of peanuts is the problem. Sure, don’t feed peanuts or a peanut butter sandwich so a young kid, but give them a small taste of it on a regular basis when they are young.

The kids with allergies these days seem to have overly fussy parents. Also, everyone is washing their hands every time they touch something. I never heard of the “three second rule” as a kid. Any food we dropped as a kid went into our mouths unless there was so much dirt on it that it was too gritty. Kids rub their finger on a rough surface these days and they immediately want a band-aid. We raised our kids outdoors in the dirt and they don’t have any allergies.


45 posted on 05/05/2012 2:43:10 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

What do you think? What changes did you ‘feel’ when you made the move... if any. How soon after moving did you start to have allergic reactions?


46 posted on 05/05/2012 2:51:17 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

The more you try to avoid something the more likely it is you get it.


47 posted on 05/05/2012 3:19:37 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Bingo!


48 posted on 05/05/2012 3:35:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yep - 3-second rule in the “yard” and no disinfectants on every surface to “ptotect” them from the germs they need to be exposed to if they want healthy immune systems.


49 posted on 05/05/2012 3:40:27 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Notwithstanding

Finished. Please send more.


50 posted on 05/05/2012 4:09:20 AM PDT by almcbean
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