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Kentucky Derby: *FREE* DRF Past Performances(on pdf), prior races video and prior results charts
KentuckyDerby.com and HorseRacingInside.com (links below) | May 5, 2012

Posted on 05/05/2012 6:20:29 AM PDT by ETL

At KentuckyDerby.com, click on any of the contenders' names and a new page will appear with links to videos (click 'Replay') and results charts (click 'Chart') of that horse's previous races, plus much more: http://www.kentuckyderby.com/horses


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012kentuckyderby; chat; dailyracingform; kentuckyderby; pastperformances; sports
Here is the link to the official Daily Racing Form *Past Performances* for the 2012 Kentucky Derby (on PDF file). It's provided free of charge every year as a promotional thing: http://www.horseracinginside.com/2012KentuckyDerby.pdf
1 posted on 05/05/2012 6:20:32 AM PDT by ETL
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From: http://www.kentuckyderby.com/contenders/kentucky-derby-live-odds

2012 Kentucky Derby Live Odds

Last Updated: May 5, 2012 8:38am EST

Pool Total: $2,150,436.00

Number Name Trainer Jockey Morning Line Current Odds
1 Daddy Long Legs Aidan O'Brien Colm O'Donoghue 30 24
2 Optimizer D. Lukas Jon Court 50 36
3 Take Charge Indy Patrick Byrne Calvin Borel 15 10
4 Union Rags Michael Matz Julien Leparoux 9/2 5
5 Dullahan Dale Romans Kent Desormeaux 8 10
6 Bodemeister Bob Baffert Mike Smith 4 7
7 Rousing Sermon Jerry Hollendorfer Jose Lezcano 50 34
8 Creative Cause Mike Harrington Joel Rosario 12 10
9 Trinniberg Bisnath Parboo Willie Martinez 50 40
10 Daddy Nose Best Steven Asmussen Garrett Gomez 15 13
11 Alpha Kiaran McLaughlin Rajiv Maragh 15 20
12 Prospective Mark Casse Luis Contreras 30 65
13 Went the Day Well H. Motion John Velazquez 20 26
14 Hansen Michael Maker Ramon Dominguez 10 11
15 Gemologist Todd Pletcher Javier Castellano 6 8
16 El Padrino Todd Pletcher Rafael Bejarano 20 27
17 Done Talking Hamilton Smith Sheldon Russell 50 30
18 Sabercat Steven Asmussen Corey Nakatani 30 33
19 I'll Have Another Doug O'Neill Mario Gutierrez 12 14
20 Liaison Bob Baffert Martin Garcia 50 55

2 posted on 05/05/2012 6:20:57 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
<Number ... Name ... Trainer ......... Jockey ...... Morning Line ... Current Odds
6 ... Bodemeister ... Bob Baffert ... Mike Smith ...... 4 ............... 7

What do these "odds" mean? I'm used to seeing the odds in terms of "10-to-3" or "8-to-1" to win

3 posted on 05/05/2012 6:34:41 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: ETL

Thanks for the post/links. Looking at the Daily Racing Form, I can see that there are lots of very capable horses in the Derby this year. It should be a very exciting race with very good gimmick pays. The permutations are mind boggling.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 6:44:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PapaNew

They are “to one”, unless otherwise indicated. Never have I seen odds given “to three” (ie, 10-3). At least not here in New York.

Odds, in order of increasing payout amounts, are as follows:

3-1 = $8.00 (for a $2 win wager)
7-2 = $9.00 (for a $2 win wager)
4-1 = $10.00 (for a $2 win wager)
9-2 = $11.00 (for a $2 win wager)
5-1 = $12.00 (for a $2 win wager)
6-1 = etc, etc
7-1
8-1
etc, etc


5 posted on 05/05/2012 6:47:01 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: PGalt

I have a ‘hunch’ (not a tip) that Daddy Nose Best may mow them down in the stretch and pay close to $30. But I don’t have the guts to play him to Win. I’ll go with Show and hope it returns 7 or 8 dollars (for Show).


6 posted on 05/05/2012 6:52:33 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: All

If anyone knows who does the horse racing ping list, could you please ping him/her to this thread. Tanx.


7 posted on 05/05/2012 6:59:29 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
FYI, latest odds after post positions announced:

http://chicago.sbnation.com/2012/5/5/3000748/kentucky-derby-2012-odds-favorite-longshot-update

8 posted on 05/05/2012 7:12:42 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: ETL
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" Kentucky Derby: *FREE* DRF Past Performances(on pdf), prior races video and prior results charts"

WOW....that's a heavy title.

9 posted on 05/05/2012 7:18:54 AM PDT by jmax (Ahhhh...life is so frigging good in the obama nation.)
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To: ETL
I have a ‘hunch’ (not a tip) that Daddy Nose Best may mow them down in the stretch and pay close to $30. But I don’t have the guts to play him to Win. I’ll go with Show and hope it returns 7 or 8 dollars (for Show).

don't chicken out, bet him across (W-P-S). if he only shows you still get a couple of bucks. but if he wins you'll get enough to send me half.

10 posted on 05/05/2012 7:38:59 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: ETL
I have a ‘hunch’ (not a tip) that Daddy Nose Best may mow them down in the stretch and pay close to $30. But I don’t have the guts to play him to Win. I’ll go with Show and hope it returns 7 or 8 dollars (for Show).

In that field (lots of horses can win and no clear cut favorites), "Daddy" (with current odds) should pay at least that to show. Seems like a good bet. $100 or $200 to show would be a nice payday ($350 - $800) at a $7 or $8 show price (I see it easily going to double digits for the show payoff on "Daddy").

Wheeling him front and back in the exactor (perfecta) for $1 (total bet $38...based on 20 horse field) could net you $100 (or 2 or 3) with the right combination.

11 posted on 05/05/2012 7:39:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt
Milwaukee Conservative Talk Show host Mark Belling (one of the many "Mark" subs for Rush) is a part-owner of Went the Day Well.

His derby analysis and picks can be found at his website .

Apparently, last year his top picks went 1-2-4.

12 posted on 05/05/2012 7:48:36 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Julia!!!!!! Don't Let Him Fool 'ya!!!!)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Very interesting. I did not know that he was a thoroughbred aficianado. WOOOOHOOOOO Mark! Thanks for the link (I’d never been to his site). He’s a very capable fill-in host for Rush.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 8:07:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

I really like Alpha or Gemologist. I’ve been watching their workouts and races for awhile. I have tickets to the Derby but can’t go because one of my mares is overdue to foal. It’s her first foal and she’ s almost a month late!


14 posted on 05/05/2012 8:38:42 AM PDT by lopinslow
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To: ETL

Your horse(Daddy knows best) has a legitimate shot.
I handicapped the race and came up with Roman’s horse Dullahan.


15 posted on 05/05/2012 9:00:20 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: lopinslow
"I really like Alpha or Gemologist."

I like Gemologist (undefeated at Churchill). Alpha tried to catch him in the Wood Memorial, but Gem pulled away. He appears to be a real competitor and "likes" to be in front of the pack.

Take Charge Indy with that inside post position and Borel up would be my second choice. bttt

16 posted on 05/05/2012 9:31:36 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Andrew loved the battle and he knew the stakes." ~ Mark Levin 3/2/12)
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To: Matchett-PI

I hope any horse Borel is on loses. We had a horse in at Churchhill and Borel was our jockey. He was signing autographs and decided he didn’t want to ride anymore that day. We found out in the paddock with 5 minutes to post. He new our horse and he had a good shot but we had to pick someone else. Needless to say we were pissed!


17 posted on 05/05/2012 9:49:22 AM PDT by lopinslow
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To: ETL

1 1/2 inches of rain last night, storms may hit mid afternoon.

It is typically a fast drying track but my best bed would be a mudder.


18 posted on 05/05/2012 10:42:52 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: NautiNurse; Nick Danger

:-)


19 posted on 05/05/2012 1:29:24 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in peace, and thank you, Andrew Breitbart)
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To: ETL

Yayae! Ky derby-my favorite time of year. I like Went The Day Well, Hansen , Bodiemeister and just about every other horse in the race :-)


20 posted on 05/05/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: ETL
I bet Creative Cause in the second pre-pool and got 17-1. I haven't changed my mind. I still like him. I'm particularly against Bodemeister who was the morning-line favorite. I think his Arkansas Derby win has been way overrated.

(And I have Get Stormy in the 10th.)

ML/NJ

21 posted on 05/05/2012 1:37:27 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: lopinslow
I really like Alpha or Gemologist. I’ve been watching their workouts and races for awhile. I have tickets to the Derby but can’t go because one of my mares is overdue to foal. It’s her first foal and she’ s almost a month late!

WOW! Congrats on you foal coming. I was at the Derby the year (1971) Canonero II won it. I was on the infield with a couple of rowdy friends from Kentucky who had come up to work at Great Lakes Steel in Ecorse Michigan. It was probably near my 21st birthday because my b/day is May 6. I remember drinking quite a few Little Kings and Orange Julius during the course of the day. We slept in sleeping bags on the grass right near the gate in the early morning hours to be the 1st ones in when the gates opened.

Interesting info about Borel (Borail). Thanks. I'm going to look over the Racing Form and make some selections before the race. I should be at Northville Downs Michigan doing some simulcast betting...this is my kind of race...no clear cut favorite and a lot of horses...but I had too many things to do today around the house.

22 posted on 05/05/2012 1:56:22 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ETL

I have a Daddy-Daddy exacta box: Daddy Nose Best with Daddy Long Legs.


23 posted on 05/05/2012 1:59:59 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: nutmeg

read em and weep

1st....the 3 horse

2nd...the 4 horse

3td...the 15 horse will nudge the 6 horse for show


24 posted on 05/05/2012 2:00:36 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: lopinslow; Mygirlsmom; ETL; All

OK, my long, longshot (20-1 Form) El Padrino (he does well on a bit of an off track) I’ll front and backwheel him in the exactor - $38

My longshot Daddy Nose Best (15-1 Form)...I’ll front and backwheel him in the exactor - $38

My somewhat longshot (10-1 Form) Hansen...I’ll take him for $20 to win.

I’ll take Dullahan (8-1 Form) and Union Rags (9/2 Form) for $50 each to win.

TOTAL bet (on about a 10 minute analysis) $198. It’s my kind of race...lots of horses...no clear cut favorite (I don’t like soft favorites).

(waiting now)...AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!

Good luck & best wishes horsemen and handicappers!

BEST 2 MINUTES IN SPORTS BUMP!


25 posted on 05/05/2012 2:27:15 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pajamajan
I have a Daddy-Daddy exacta box: Daddy Nose Best with Daddy Long Legs.

Good picks. I looked at Daddy Long Legs a lot. That would be a whopping payoff.

26 posted on 05/05/2012 2:30:13 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt; All

NBC is doing a good job with the coverage this year- IMO.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 2:39:13 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan

Yeah, I just tuned in about 15 minutes ago. I caught the tail-end of the Baffert story and I just saw the story on Union Rags. Very nice coverage.


28 posted on 05/05/2012 2:49:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ETL

I’m not quite sure why, but I’m cheering for Dullahan. I lke his trainer, his rider and the fact that he won his last race, 9 furlongs, pulling away. He seems to be getting better with each race.

But what do I know? I have no association with horses except as a spectator.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 2:53:01 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Mygirlsmom
I have the most "hunch" feelings about Went The Day Well and Bodiemiester-not that it means anything ;-)

Good luck to everyone.

30 posted on 05/05/2012 2:59:00 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: Pajamajan
OOps! Should pay more attention to spelling:
Bodiemiester=Bodemeister.
31 posted on 05/05/2012 3:06:46 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: All

One last look at the horses during the post parade...Alpha & Creative Cause look ready to roll.


32 posted on 05/05/2012 3:28:37 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ETL

What time is the actual race?


33 posted on 05/05/2012 3:30:09 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: jackv

I’ll Have Another gets it!


34 posted on 05/05/2012 3:35:14 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: jackv

Run!


35 posted on 05/05/2012 3:37:14 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Pajamajan

Great ride by the jockey. I had a straight win bet on him so I get some money back- Yaye.


36 posted on 05/05/2012 3:38:33 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: PGalt
I was at the Derby the year (1971) Canonero II won it.

Also my only live Derby. We were also among the first into the infield. We took a position right by the rail at the 1/8 pole (just in front of the Derby start.) Now that position is completely unavailable. They had to put in a chain link fence to contain @$$holes who might run onto the track. Then they added the turf course, and now there are temporary stands all along the stretch in the infield so no one in the infield has any chance to actually see a horse running through the stretch.

I bet Jim French who ran second. It may have been the only race my then wife to be ever handicapped. She bet Twist the Ax.

ML/NJ

37 posted on 05/05/2012 3:45:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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I saved a couple of hundred dollars by not going to bet this race. WOOOOHOOOO! Steak & beer celebration tonight!

Condolences to all who lost.


38 posted on 05/05/2012 3:46:15 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

I watched SECRETARIAT too many times.....these horses looked slow....lol


39 posted on 05/05/2012 3:51:58 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Slo Joe Biden " I promise you the President has a big stick, but Michelle's is bigger ")
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To: ml/nj
We were also among the first into the infield. We took a position right by the rail at the 1/8 pole (just in front of the Derby start.)

WOW! That is about exactly where we were. We had to be within 10-15 ft of each other. IIRC, I bet (and lost) on Eastern Fleet. It was also my one and only live Derby. I highly recommend it. It was a very enjoyable memory of my youth. The atmosphere was fantastic. The folks I met that weekend in and out of the Derby were very hospitable. It was a great feeling...being in Kentucky...my first time visiting that state (commonwealth).

40 posted on 05/05/2012 5:03:08 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: advertising guy
I watched SECRETARIAT too many times.....these horses looked slow....lol

Big Red! Now there was a machine.

41 posted on 05/05/2012 5:05:07 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ml/nj

Come to think of it...I have a super-8 movie of as much as I could see from that area. I took my camera with me. Sheesh, I forgot all about that. I’ll have to dig it up.


42 posted on 05/05/2012 5:06:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt
The 1971 Derby was also my first time in Kentucky (except possibly for visiting homes when I visited Cincinnati as a teen). My car broke down on Friday in Lexington. I got a ride from the folks who towed me to the MG dealer out to the airport so I could rent a car. We wound up staying in Lexington which was probably a lucky break costwise. We got up early the next morning and drove to Louisville. There were residential streets along the backstretch and the people there were blocking the streets and charging money to pass and park. I just drove around to the back entrance to these streets and parked there for nothing. It was actually a convenient place to park as the infield entrance I went in at was on the far turn.

I remember it being a big party with all sorts of people around us from all over the country. I didn't drink much. I had my mint julep, and most of my wife to be's mint julep; and maybe a beer. I don't remember any rowdiness around us, just lots of good cheer.

If you can ever get your movie into a computer readable format, I'd sure like to see a copy.

Since then for the last ten years or so I've become a regular spring and fall visitor to Keeneland. I was there for Bluegrass week again this year. I've only spent one November weekend at Churchill since that Derby trip. This was after it was rebuilt. As far as I am concerned it doesn't compare to Keeneland. But you're right about the folks in Kentucky. I've had only good experiences on all of my visits.

I'm also a regular at Saratoga in the summer and I haven't missed a Belmont Stakes since my first one in 1966.

ML/NJ

43 posted on 05/05/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
If you can ever get your movie into a computer readable format, I'd sure like to see a copy.

Will do. Nice glass ml/nj. If I ever retire we'll have to hook up at a track to do some live racing and simulcast handicapping. (WARNING! I've had my moments but over the years I've been nothing but a loser when it comes to handicapping :))

Cool about your wife-to-be. Coincidence? The 1st time I ever laid eyes on my wife-to-be was not only at a race track...but in a foreign country...Windsor Ontario, Canada...Windsor Raceway (harness)!

44 posted on 05/05/2012 7:23:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ml/nj
WOOOOHOOOO! Steak & beer celebration tonight!

How did steak & beer turn into guacamole/chips and Long Island Iced Tea (g & LIIT home-made)?

Oh well, tomorrow's another day. (not much of a dinner tonight)

45 posted on 05/05/2012 7:35:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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