Skip to comments.Kentucky Derby: *FREE* DRF Past Performances(on pdf), prior races video and prior results charts
Posted on 05/05/2012 6:20:29 AM PDT by ETL
At KentuckyDerby.com, click on any of the contenders' names and a new page will appear with links to videos (click 'Replay') and results charts (click 'Chart') of that horse's previous races, plus much more: http://www.kentuckyderby.com/horses
Last Updated: May 5, 2012 8:38am EST
Pool Total: $2,150,436.00
|Number||Name||Trainer||Jockey||Morning Line||Current Odds|
|Number||Name||Trainer||Jockey||Morning Line||Current Odds|
|1||Daddy Long Legs||Aidan O'Brien||Colm O'Donoghue||30||24|
|2||Optimizer||D. Lukas||Jon Court||50||36|
|3||Take Charge Indy||Patrick Byrne||Calvin Borel||15||10|
|4||Union Rags||Michael Matz||Julien Leparoux||9/2||5|
|5||Dullahan||Dale Romans||Kent Desormeaux||8||10|
|6||Bodemeister||Bob Baffert||Mike Smith||4||7|
|7||Rousing Sermon||Jerry Hollendorfer||Jose Lezcano||50||34|
|8||Creative Cause||Mike Harrington||Joel Rosario||12||10|
|9||Trinniberg||Bisnath Parboo||Willie Martinez||50||40|
|10||Daddy Nose Best||Steven Asmussen||Garrett Gomez||15||13|
|11||Alpha||Kiaran McLaughlin||Rajiv Maragh||15||20|
|12||Prospective||Mark Casse||Luis Contreras||30||65|
|13||Went the Day Well||H. Motion||John Velazquez||20||26|
|14||Hansen||Michael Maker||Ramon Dominguez||10||11|
|15||Gemologist||Todd Pletcher||Javier Castellano||6||8|
|16||El Padrino||Todd Pletcher||Rafael Bejarano||20||27|
|17||Done Talking||Hamilton Smith||Sheldon Russell||50||30|
|18||Sabercat||Steven Asmussen||Corey Nakatani||30||33|
|19||I'll Have Another||Doug O'Neill||Mario Gutierrez||12||14|
|20||Liaison||Bob Baffert||Martin Garcia||50||55|
What do these "odds" mean? I'm used to seeing the odds in terms of "10-to-3" or "8-to-1" to win
Thanks for the post/links. Looking at the Daily Racing Form, I can see that there are lots of very capable horses in the Derby this year. It should be a very exciting race with very good gimmick pays. The permutations are mind boggling.
They are “to one”, unless otherwise indicated. Never have I seen odds given “to three” (ie, 10-3). At least not here in New York.
Odds, in order of increasing payout amounts, are as follows:
3-1 = $8.00 (for a $2 win wager)
7-2 = $9.00 (for a $2 win wager)
4-1 = $10.00 (for a $2 win wager)
9-2 = $11.00 (for a $2 win wager)
5-1 = $12.00 (for a $2 win wager)
6-1 = etc, etc
I have a ‘hunch’ (not a tip) that Daddy Nose Best may mow them down in the stretch and pay close to $30. But I don’t have the guts to play him to Win. I’ll go with Show and hope it returns 7 or 8 dollars (for Show).
If anyone knows who does the horse racing ping list, could you please ping him/her to this thread. Tanx.
" Kentucky Derby: *FREE* DRF Past Performances(on pdf), prior races video and prior results charts"
WOW....that's a heavy title.
don't chicken out, bet him across (W-P-S). if he only shows you still get a couple of bucks. but if he wins you'll get enough to send me half.
In that field (lots of horses can win and no clear cut favorites), "Daddy" (with current odds) should pay at least that to show. Seems like a good bet. $100 or $200 to show would be a nice payday ($350 - $800) at a $7 or $8 show price (I see it easily going to double digits for the show payoff on "Daddy").
Wheeling him front and back in the exactor (perfecta) for $1 (total bet $38...based on 20 horse field) could net you $100 (or 2 or 3) with the right combination.
His derby analysis and picks can be found at his website .
Apparently, last year his top picks went 1-2-4.
Very interesting. I did not know that he was a thoroughbred aficianado. WOOOOHOOOOO Mark! Thanks for the link (I’d never been to his site). He’s a very capable fill-in host for Rush.
I really like Alpha or Gemologist. I’ve been watching their workouts and races for awhile. I have tickets to the Derby but can’t go because one of my mares is overdue to foal. It’s her first foal and she’ s almost a month late!
Your horse(Daddy knows best) has a legitimate shot.
I handicapped the race and came up with Roman’s horse Dullahan.
I like Gemologist (undefeated at Churchill). Alpha tried to catch him in the Wood Memorial, but Gem pulled away. He appears to be a real competitor and "likes" to be in front of the pack.
Take Charge Indy with that inside post position and Borel up would be my second choice. bttt
I hope any horse Borel is on loses. We had a horse in at Churchhill and Borel was our jockey. He was signing autographs and decided he didn’t want to ride anymore that day. We found out in the paddock with 5 minutes to post. He new our horse and he had a good shot but we had to pick someone else. Needless to say we were pissed!
1 1/2 inches of rain last night, storms may hit mid afternoon.
It is typically a fast drying track but my best bed would be a mudder.
Yayae! Ky derby-my favorite time of year. I like Went The Day Well, Hansen , Bodiemeister and just about every other horse in the race :-)
(And I have Get Stormy in the 10th.)
WOW! Congrats on you foal coming. I was at the Derby the year (1971) Canonero II won it. I was on the infield with a couple of rowdy friends from Kentucky who had come up to work at Great Lakes Steel in Ecorse Michigan. It was probably near my 21st birthday because my b/day is May 6. I remember drinking quite a few Little Kings and Orange Julius during the course of the day. We slept in sleeping bags on the grass right near the gate in the early morning hours to be the 1st ones in when the gates opened.
Interesting info about Borel (Borail). Thanks. I'm going to look over the Racing Form and make some selections before the race. I should be at Northville Downs Michigan doing some simulcast betting...this is my kind of race...no clear cut favorite and a lot of horses...but I had too many things to do today around the house.
I have a Daddy-Daddy exacta box: Daddy Nose Best with Daddy Long Legs.
read em and weep
1st....the 3 horse
2nd...the 4 horse
3td...the 15 horse will nudge the 6 horse for show
OK, my long, longshot (20-1 Form) El Padrino (he does well on a bit of an off track) I’ll front and backwheel him in the exactor - $38
My longshot Daddy Nose Best (15-1 Form)...I’ll front and backwheel him in the exactor - $38
My somewhat longshot (10-1 Form) Hansen...I’ll take him for $20 to win.
I’ll take Dullahan (8-1 Form) and Union Rags (9/2 Form) for $50 each to win.
TOTAL bet (on about a 10 minute analysis) $198. It’s my kind of race...lots of horses...no clear cut favorite (I don’t like soft favorites).
(waiting now)...AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!
Good luck & best wishes horsemen and handicappers!
BEST 2 MINUTES IN SPORTS BUMP!
Good picks. I looked at Daddy Long Legs a lot. That would be a whopping payoff.
NBC is doing a good job with the coverage this year- IMO.
Yeah, I just tuned in about 15 minutes ago. I caught the tail-end of the Baffert story and I just saw the story on Union Rags. Very nice coverage.
I’m not quite sure why, but I’m cheering for Dullahan. I lke his trainer, his rider and the fact that he won his last race, 9 furlongs, pulling away. He seems to be getting better with each race.
But what do I know? I have no association with horses except as a spectator.
Good luck to everyone.
One last look at the horses during the post parade...Alpha & Creative Cause look ready to roll.
What time is the actual race?
I’ll Have Another gets it!
Great ride by the jockey. I had a straight win bet on him so I get some money back- Yaye.
Also my only live Derby. We were also among the first into the infield. We took a position right by the rail at the 1/8 pole (just in front of the Derby start.) Now that position is completely unavailable. They had to put in a chain link fence to contain @$$holes who might run onto the track. Then they added the turf course, and now there are temporary stands all along the stretch in the infield so no one in the infield has any chance to actually see a horse running through the stretch.
I bet Jim French who ran second. It may have been the only race my then wife to be ever handicapped. She bet Twist the Ax.
I saved a couple of hundred dollars by not going to bet this race. WOOOOHOOOO! Steak & beer celebration tonight!
Condolences to all who lost.
I watched SECRETARIAT too many times.....these horses looked slow....lol
WOW! That is about exactly where we were. We had to be within 10-15 ft of each other. IIRC, I bet (and lost) on Eastern Fleet. It was also my one and only live Derby. I highly recommend it. It was a very enjoyable memory of my youth. The atmosphere was fantastic. The folks I met that weekend in and out of the Derby were very hospitable. It was a great feeling...being in Kentucky...my first time visiting that state (commonwealth).
Big Red! Now there was a machine.
Come to think of it...I have a super-8 movie of as much as I could see from that area. I took my camera with me. Sheesh, I forgot all about that. I’ll have to dig it up.
I remember it being a big party with all sorts of people around us from all over the country. I didn't drink much. I had my mint julep, and most of my wife to be's mint julep; and maybe a beer. I don't remember any rowdiness around us, just lots of good cheer.
If you can ever get your movie into a computer readable format, I'd sure like to see a copy.
Since then for the last ten years or so I've become a regular spring and fall visitor to Keeneland. I was there for Bluegrass week again this year. I've only spent one November weekend at Churchill since that Derby trip. This was after it was rebuilt. As far as I am concerned it doesn't compare to Keeneland. But you're right about the folks in Kentucky. I've had only good experiences on all of my visits.
I'm also a regular at Saratoga in the summer and I haven't missed a Belmont Stakes since my first one in 1966.
Will do. Nice glass ml/nj. If I ever retire we'll have to hook up at a track to do some live racing and simulcast handicapping. (WARNING! I've had my moments but over the years I've been nothing but a loser when it comes to handicapping :))
Cool about your wife-to-be. Coincidence? The 1st time I ever laid eyes on my wife-to-be was not only at a race track...but in a foreign country...Windsor Ontario, Canada...Windsor Raceway (harness)!
How did steak & beer turn into guacamole/chips and Long Island Iced Tea (g & LIIT home-made)?
Oh well, tomorrow's another day. (not much of a dinner tonight)
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