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Recession generation has adulthood on hold
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | May 5, 2012 | Article by: JEAN HOPFENSPERGER

Posted on 05/05/2012 8:43:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Alyssa Kjellberg still can't believe it. Two years beyond college, her career path has led only to jobs at a greenhouse, a hotel front desk, an aunt's office and a seasonal landscaping company -- all paying less than $12 an hour.

After applying for about 100 jobs, the environmental science major even offered "one week of free labor'' last summer to get a foot in the door at the landscaping company. But that job ended with the season, as will the one she's in now. Her dream of becoming a park ranger or environmental educator is drifting away.

Kjellberg had envisioned landing a government job at a park where she could be an educator or conservationist. Making ends meet by working in her aunt's office and moving back to her mother's house were not part of the plan.

A decade ago, such a serious job hunter was far more likely to land a job related to their training. Some still do today, but the norm is a longer job search punctuated by multiple entry-level jobs and internships -- sometimes unpaid.

Her boyfriend, Dan Olson, estimates he has had 15 employers in the past four years.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: change; failure; hope
4 more years?
1 posted on 05/05/2012 8:43:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So much for green jobs.


2 posted on 05/05/2012 8:47:11 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

She majored in “environmental science”? Didn’t know there was such a field.

Hope she didn’t take out huge loans to get an education in a field which apparently is not going to get her anywhere in a career.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 8:47:56 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GTFU.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 8:48:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I believe I have identified the crux of the problem:

Alyssa Kjellberg - "environmental science major".


5 posted on 05/05/2012 8:49:07 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe she should have a real degree where actual work is involved. Last time I checked, B.A. Nurses are in high demand. So are Physician Assistants and of course M.D.’s. Mechanical, electrical and civil engineers can get jobs. So can geologist and fire protection. If she wanted a real job she needed a real major. A real major and a plan.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 8:50:11 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Might have a future in pole dancing.


7 posted on 05/05/2012 8:52:27 AM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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To: Dilbert San Diego

She majored in “environmental science”? Didn’t know there was such a field.


How could they run such a class considering the fluidity of the Global Warming cult’s claims?

Also, the students had to have learned some genuine science. Wouldn’t they ask questions that would undermine their “teacher’s” claims about “evil, nasty” carbondioxide emissions?


8 posted on 05/05/2012 8:52:31 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Dilbert San Diego

She majored in “environmental science”? Didn’t know there was such a field.


How could they run such a class considering the fluidity of the Global Warming cult’s claims?

Also, the students had to have learned some genuine science. Wouldn’t they ask questions that would undermine their “teacher’s” claims about “evil, nasty” carbondioxide emissions?


9 posted on 05/05/2012 8:52:40 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: DariusBane
Maybe she should have a real degree where actual work is involved. Last time I checked, B.A. Nurses are in high demand. So are Physician Assistants and of course M.D.’s.

Not anymore, thanks to Obamacare. Hospitals are already laying off nurses and imposing hiring freezes, and doctors are almost not breaking even because of high malpractice insurance costs and lower billing as forced by Obamacare.

10 posted on 05/05/2012 8:52:40 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I bet she voted for Obama! (snort! snort!)


11 posted on 05/05/2012 8:52:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
My humble opinion: the author has the cause and effect backwards.

The post-Clinton 20-somethings today are shiftless, amoral whiners.

Boomers in their 20s were disruptive and slovenly, but all knew in the back of their minds that they would return to reality and get back to work. They were immoral, but at least they had ideals.

Today's kids are the uselss product of the moral morass created by those who defended Bill Clinton.

12 posted on 05/05/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Actually there’s lots and lots and lots of money in environmental science. She should follow Professor of environmental science Al Gore and his methods: Invest in a green company that makes useless BS, then get Congress to pass a bill that forces the citizens to buy that useless BS.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 8:53:33 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Her dream of becoming a park ranger

... never had much basis in reality in the first place. So now she wakes up and understands that the world doesn't exist to indulge her dreams, and that when she can make some kind of measurable contribution to society, she will be gainfully employed.

Assuming Obama hasn't killed ALL the jobs in this country ...

14 posted on 05/05/2012 8:58:20 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Two years beyond college, her career path has led only to jobs at a greenhouse, a hotel front desk, an aunt's office and a seasonal landscaping company -- all paying less than $12 an hour.

Looks to me like she is very employable.

Whats the problem?

15 posted on 05/05/2012 9:00:37 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the environmental science major....Her dream of becoming a park ranger or environmental educator is drifting away.

LOL.

16 posted on 05/05/2012 9:00:43 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bertha Fanation

She’ll need a suitable stage name.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 9:02:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Park ranger is a very small class;she should try for a real enviromental job like working in a sweage treatment plant or one of many enviromental jobs in industry meeting EPA regulations.

Only a few people are need to show children where Mr. Squirrell lives.....


18 posted on 05/05/2012 9:02:51 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: DariusBane

“Mechanical, electrical and civil engineers can get jobs.”

The job market is rough for these majors too. I go to a major internationally renowned engineering school and have friends who are graduating with honors in these majors with NO job offers.

Another friend with a Masters of Science in Nuclear Engineering and a 3.87 gpa undergrad and equivalent grad got 1 job offer after interviewing for two+ years (went to grad school because of no jobs).

Life is hard for all majors at this point.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 9:04:20 AM PDT by Black_Shark ( Who)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
So much for green jobs.

Tree huggers are no longer in demand?

20 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BenLurkin
She’ll need a suitable stage name.

Julia?

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21 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

No. I’ve taken Geology I and Geology II and every time I questioned the mathematics behind Global Warming I was ridiculed in front of the class or shouted down. Even when presenting valid arguments questioning the application of the various statistical methods, I was ignored.

It’s groupthink.


22 posted on 05/05/2012 9:06:37 AM PDT by Black_Shark ( Who)
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To: Black_Shark
he job market is rough for these majors too. I go to a major internationally renowned engineering school and have friends who are graduating with honors in these majors with NO job offers.

Same situation occurred in the late 70's. The difference then and now is that there is no Reagan on the horizon....

23 posted on 05/05/2012 9:09:43 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“the environmental science major....Her dream of becoming a park ranger or environmental educator is drifting away.”

She forgot the mandatory lobotomy. No gubbament jobs unless the applicant already is prepared properly for the position.


24 posted on 05/05/2012 9:10:49 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: BenLurkin

Also colleges today are nothing more than leftist indoctrination centers where you get the most radical of the radical teaching kids. Terrorists even like Bill Ayers “teaching”.

When I went in the late 70s early 80’s we still had Professors who started in the 1950s, one who use to absolutely hate commies, and would constantly call for Carters impeachment. And then we started getting maybe one or two hardcore leftists like my English teacher who demanded a moment of silence for the King of the hippies John Lennon when Lennon was shot, which was interuppted when I cut a big fart (oh yes I did). Yes, “Give peace a chance” which resuted in 2 million Cambodians being slaughtered. How about a moment of silence for them?

But today? BIG difference. All those middle of the road or to the right Professors are gone and those leftists who started coming into teaching positions in the 1970s have completely overtaken colleges like a cancer, and the aren’t like the occasional Professor you would find in the past who was into communism. No, these ones are for the complete destruction of the United states. They support terrorism, an end to capitalism, abolishment of the constitution, and they got into teaching on purpose because they knew through our school they coud acheive those goals by brainwashing kids. And to me THAT is why these kids aren’t being hired.


25 posted on 05/05/2012 9:15:37 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“I bet she voted for Obama!” (snort! snort!)

Of course she did and since she obviously can’t understand the correlation between cause and effect she will vote for him again in Nov. (if the elections are even held)


26 posted on 05/05/2012 9:16:04 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141

I think the elections will be held but I’m betting that Obama is going to pull an Odinga.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 9:18:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“the environmental science major”

Another practical degree.


28 posted on 05/05/2012 9:41:45 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Her dream of becoming a park ranger”

Her dream of becoming a government employee.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 9:44:32 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/312702200

Did she send in an application for this job? (BTW - there are a number of jobs available in national parks that pay more than $12.00 an hour)


30 posted on 05/05/2012 10:00:06 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Black_Shark

You state on your page that you are an econ major. Why not switch to engineering if your school has such a great rating? And what is that school? In NC? I got my engineering degree at U Michigan. GO BLUE. I have grandkids that Iam urging to go to a technical school and do something that sells.


31 posted on 05/05/2012 10:08:17 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: larryjohnson

My school is North Carolina State University and I have 2 reasons why I am not a (Preferably Mechanical) engineering major.

1) I was HORRIBLE at math in high school and early college therefore I was originally Poli-Sci. I had intended to attend Law School but after studying and taking the LSAT ( I did quite well) I found I HATED Law. Therefore, I transferred to B.S.- Economics to acquire a background in Business and try to discover how the world works. (My father has an Econ degree from Columbia back in the mid-late 60’s and he encouraged this). I then found that I LOVED Economics (Primarily Macro) and that I love math! My parents are still amazed that their kid who couldn’t do 10% of 100 in his head can make A’s in advanced mathematics courses! haha Anyways, I have spent the last 2 years doing nothing but Econ and Math and have been quite happy.

2) While taking my math courses (Diff Eq, Statistics, Calculus, Linear Algebra, etc.) I was talking with some engineering guys which the math classes were primarily made up of and got interested in Mechanical Engineering. Seeing that I LOVE Econ, I decided to pick up some used textbooks on the subject (Thermo, etc.) and take mechanical up as a hobby. Masochistic I know.

So, in short, the reason that I am not an engineering major is due to monetary reasons. 7 years in college is EXPENSIVE! On top of that, I love Economics so I’m not upset with my choice.


32 posted on 05/05/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by Black_Shark ( Who)
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To: hoosierham

Setting up aquaculture, rehabilitating brown-field sites, teaching gardening to urban youths, setting up and running urban and suburban food-coops, starting and running urban food gardens for food banks - there are options that fit both her degree and her desires.


33 posted on 05/05/2012 10:25:46 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Stupid kids go to college and get a "stupid studies" degree.

We need to cut off the financial aid for these kinds of programs as they unfairly target women and minorities.

34 posted on 05/05/2012 10:26:07 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: tbw2
Setting up aquaculture, rehabilitating brown-field sites, teaching gardening to urban youths, setting up and running urban and suburban food-coops, starting and running urban food gardens for food banks - there are options that fit both her degree and her desires.

Sounds like she's made herself perfectly qualified to become an excellent peasant in Obama's communist utopia.

35 posted on 05/05/2012 10:31:36 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It says in the article that she hoped to get a “federal” job working or teaching in a park.

It must be very galling to learn that she did everything right, everything the libs want her to do and she is being denied the fruits of her labor, i.e. a lifetime government job where the taxpayers foot the bill for everything.


36 posted on 05/05/2012 11:42:00 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: DariusBane

But, those things are like real and her environmental science degree makes her feel good about herself, cause she’s helping the world and stuff.


37 posted on 05/05/2012 11:44:44 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: Thunder90

Put in Registered Nurse into Monster. Any major market.


38 posted on 05/05/2012 3:58:36 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Jvette

Ha,ha! Degrees for everyone! It is the new civil right!


39 posted on 05/05/2012 4:00:11 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

The truly ironic thing about education is that the FF wanted an educated society so that they could read and understand the Bible and live accordingly.

A college degree in some obscure, worthless field of study is exactly that, worthless.


40 posted on 05/05/2012 7:34:06 PM PDT by Jvette
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