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Why is the NJ State Police Allowing Prohibited Persons to Get Guns?
Website ^ | 5-4-12 | Evan Nappen

Posted on 05/05/2012 11:57:49 AM PDT by Revtwo

Is the NJ State Police incompetent or is this a conspiracy to criminally entrap unsuspecting gun owners? Although this law has been in effect for over eight years, the NJ State Police has failed to ask about it on New Jersey’s gun permit application forms and Certificates of Eligibility.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 05/05/2012 11:57:55 AM PDT by Revtwo
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To: Revtwo

Maybe in eight years the law was tested and found unconstitutional?


2 posted on 05/05/2012 12:18:03 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Revtwo

Wonderful New Jersey, where the Public Officials are all crooks and it’s a crime to be a citizen. Hey NJ, you are way ahead of us here in California.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 12:25:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Revtwo

A bunch of Jersy cops might lose their jobs if they enforced the law?


4 posted on 05/05/2012 12:25:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Revtwo

No American citizen who isn’t currently incarcerated should be denied the right to own a gun.


5 posted on 05/05/2012 12:46:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Revtwo

Where’s the rest of the blog? Why did you just post two sentences?


6 posted on 05/05/2012 12:47:58 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Revtwo; humblegunner; shibumi; 50mm

Dude! You’re pimping a law firm under “News.” What the hell? That’s sleazier than blog pimping, if that’s possible!

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Why is the NJ State Police Allowing Prohibited Persons to Get Guns?
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Why is the NJ State Police Allowing Prohibited Persons to Get Guns?

By Evan F. Nappen, Attorney at Law

On January 14, 2004, New Jersey’s gun laws changed and a brand new category of persons was banned from purchasing and possessing guns. Anyone who has had firearms seized and not returned because of a domestic violence allegation, lost their gun rights.

Although this law has been in effect for over eight years, the NJ State Police has failed to ask about it on New Jersey’s gun permit application forms and Certificates of Eligibility. Is the NJ State Police incompetent or is this a conspiracy to criminally entrap unsuspecting gun owners? Once the question is on all the forms it will educate the public about this law. The NJ State Police need to do their job and fix the forms now!

The law was changed in two places:

NJS 2C: 58-3. c. (8) “No handgun purchase permit or firearms purchaser identification card shall be issued: … To any person whose firearm is seized pursuant to the “Prevention of Domestic Violence Act of 1991,” P.L.1991, c.261 (C.2C:25-17 et seq.) and whose firearm has not been returned.”

NJS 2C:39-7. b. (3) “A person whose firearm is seized pursuant to the “Prevention of Domestic Violence Act of 1991,” P.L.1991,c.261 (C.2C:25-17 et seq.) and whose firearm has not been returned… pursuant to the “Prevention of Domestic Violence Act of 1991,” P.L.1991,c.261 (C.2C:25-17 et seq.)who purchases, owns, possesses or controls a firearm is guilty of a crime of the third degree

In other words, if the State is holding your guns, or your guns were not returned to you (e.g. sold to a dealer, transferred to a third party, destroyed by the State, etc.) you lose your gun rights in NJ. Anyone with guns “seized and not returned” who purchases or possesses a firearm faces five years in the NJ State Prison.

Have the NJ State Police failed to fix the forms to keep folks in the dark so that they don’t fight to get their guns returned? If people knew about this law many would NOT simply agree to have their seized guns sold to a dealer, transferred to a third party, or forfeited to the State. The prosecutors and the courts would have to do lot more hearings for gun returns. (Note: prosecutors and the judges are under no legal obligation tell the unsuspecting former gun owners that their gun rights will be lost by making such a deal with the State.)

No other state has such a law. However, it is the law in NJ. I do not support this law and I believe it should be repealed. Until it is repealed, many gun owners are failing to insist upon the return of their seized guns and prohibited persons are unknowingly acquiring guns. Maybe that is the plan all along.


7 posted on 05/05/2012 12:53:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

If there’s some other place to source this salient issue from than a shark house, I’m sure your civic duty would thank you. The law in question looks to be either fiendishly clever or ill thought out. Not even Mass-2-sh*ts or Ill Noise does this.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 1:06:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Revtwo

F*** NJ. I heard NJ has gotten so bad where if you fly through NJ and you happen to have firearms checked in, if you are forced to do an overnight there, I heard of people getting arrested as soon as they get their checked luggage to take with them to the hotel.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 1:13:17 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Larry Lucido

Mr. Nappen was the keynote speaker at this years NJ NRA Chapter annual meeting, he is the lawyer of choice for the NJ chapter of the USSA, he is one of a few lawyers who take cases for the NJ umbrella sportsmen group called New Jersey Outdoor Alliance .

He is a director and the General Counsel of Pro-Gun New Hampshire, Inc. (http://www.pgnh.org/)

Consider him as just below the level of Professor John Lott, his blog contributions just another form for him to control how he controls his public image, he’s also a writer at ammoland.com , and sends columns out to other gun rights syndicated websites/forums.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 5:46:46 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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