Posted on 05/05/2012 5:37:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson is campaigning to win the White House as a Libertarian after receiving scant attention in the Republican presidential race.
Johnson easily became the party's presidential nominee at the Libertarian national convention in Las Vegas on Saturday.
He hopes to appeal to voters fed up with the traditional two-party system this November.
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He won 74 percent of the vote on the first ballot in Las Vegas, an unusual showing of support.
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RomneyBots and MittWits arriving to make fun of 3rd Parties in 3, 2, 1...
Their best bet is to reach an entente with the Tea Party, over issues of mutual agreement, and run on those in areas dominated by entrenched liberals of both parties.
By working for mutual goals in the campaign, neither side has to abandon its principals, just back-burner the more contentious ones to concentrate on the mutually popular ones.
Too bad indeed if true. Makes it easier for me to cast my vote for Virgil Goode.
Well, the only question now is what fraction of 1% of the vote Gary will get.
I’m going to go with .4%. Not quite the 1980 high water mark of 1.1%, but not too shabby for a 3rd party outing.
That, or intentionally vote for the re-election of The Usurper so that the economic collapse of America happens on his watch.
And he will definitely need your help. In the 2008 election cycle the Constitution Party just barely edged out Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party. It was a close call, but team Constitution seized .15% of the vote which was enough to sneak past the Green's .12% of the vote and vault them into 5th place!
Quite true, and I’d vote for him otherwise - even if all his campaign ads look like they were created by toddlers.
Wow....... exciting.......
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Well, at least there's someone I can vote for and keep my conscience clear.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
Anyone that has succeeded in becoming the head of the 100% pro-abortion party, has to be doubted a little bit about their commitment to pro-life.
Yeah....
Anti-Roe v Wade. But a “It’s a States issue” type.
Libertarians like me are more in the “if it’s human, killing it is murder” camp.
Alan Keyes is the king of that tackiness. In 2008, in a single year, he ran in the Republican Party primary and could not get the result that he lusted for, so he ran in the Constitution Party primary and could not get the result that he lusted for, so he formed his own party and ran as it’s candidate, he did not even get 48,000 votes.
From what I understand then he is as much an infiltrate of that party as Romney is to the Republican party. Infiltrate and destroy.
He is probably a pretty good match with the party.
Libertarian Party Platform:
Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.
Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.
Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.
Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.
Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.
Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.
Military Strength; minimal capabilities.
In the last major cycle election in Ohio, the Constitution party candidate for Attorney General received over 200,000 votes. The CP is heating up in the criss-crossed bible belts of rural Ohio.
If these voters didn’t like liberal republican DeWine for AG, then these same voters will come down even harder on Mitt Romney.
I expect upwards of that 200,000 CP votes in Ohio for Virgil Goode. Add to those, the votes won by Gary Johnson and you have a seismic event in swingstate Ohio.
I expect you will be very disappointed when none of that happens.
I just looked up that race. The CP party got 2.8% of the vote and that was with a major Tea Party PAC endorsement. Between the CP and LP combined, the only effect they had on the election was to come close to playing spoiler and give the race to the Democrat. The CP isn't going to have much, if any, Tea Party support in a presidential general election. Like it not, the overwhelmingly vast number of conservatives are going to vote for the GOP nominee. For every person that chases the 3rd party fantasy this year, another will regret having done that in the past and vote for the only candidate that can defeat Obama.
And one more problem you have with this 3rd party stuff is, a LOT of conservatives still have the Perot fiasco reasonably fresh in their minds. Perot managed to trick a lot of conservatives into voting for him, and it gave us 8 years of Clinton. Sadly, a Clinton that blunted much of the momentum conservatism had in the 1990's. Clinton didn't do much, but he did derail what should have been a very conservative and positive decade for the United States. No, 90%+ of conservatives aren't going to make that kind of mistake this time around.
Sure are going to be lots of candidates who think its okay to butcher innocent little babies this year.
Someone once told me a definition of a libertarian: a conservative without the moral compass. True or false, your post reminded me of that.
I live here. I know the region. Their religious sentiment is deep and heartfelt.
I see the CP growing in Ohio.
FWIW, Robert Owens took 5% of the vote in 2008 Attny Genrl race. John McCain lost to Barack Obama by only 4.6% of the vote.
I see them as liberals who like conservative economics, or in a more basic way, children who fantasize, for example “open borders is fine, we merely eliminate all the social programs first, and then fewer people will come”, my answer to them is, first succeed in getting rid of the social programs in America, then we can discuss open borders, just like the left, they want all the bad stuff up front while selling you a bill of goods about a fantasy future.
“It’s tacky to run for one party’s nomination and then take another in the same election cycle.”
No,,, tacky is the GOP refusing to allow him in debates,, but allowing Huntsman when he was polling lower. For all the pot jokes,, he was the best Governor you can imagine. He had a belt fed veto gun,, lead by example,, and tackled New Mexico corruption head on.
You have no idea wtf you're talking about. Go tell Sean he's a "Great American" and leave this thread to people who inform themselves.
You're right. The vast majority will vote for the "lesser" of two evils, and be suprised when they get ...
evil.
If Johnson wasn’t pro-abortion, he’d be almost the perfect candidate. I can’t get past that though.
You didn’t know that the libertarian party is a pro-abortion party?
They aren’t. Get informed.
Show me in the platform, where they offer any obstacle or opposition, to any abortion, at any level, at any stage, they absolutely are pro-abortion.
Libertarian Party Platform
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
Yes, which demonstrates for you quite clearly the difference between a down ballot race with someone recognizable in a particular state, versus a national presidential race. In 2008 Owens got 4.83% of the vote in the Attorney General Race. The Republican (Mike Crites) was apparently uncompetitive anyway since he only got 38.43% of the vote. Meanwhile, on the Presidential level, McCain got 46.91% of the vote and the Constitution Party only received .22% of the vote - which actually means the CP finished 6th behind "Write-In's".
You're grasping at straws. The Constitution Party will be a complete non-factor in the 2012 general election. We see people expressing the same 3rd party fantasy every 4 years, only to have it predictably shattered once the vote comes in.
Well, obviously some so-called conservatives would vote for the Mayor of Sodom as long as he had an "R" after his name.
“Give us Barabbas! He can win!”
I needed a tagline ...
Gary Johnson was my choice going into the primary season, but his campaign never caught fire, so I shifted support to Cain. After Cain’s campaign flamed out on accusations of heterosexuality, I supported Gingrich. He may have had his personality problems, but I have always admired his vision.
Years ago I was a registered Libertarian, until the increasing nuttiness and a string of who’s-he candidates drove me back to the GOP. Now that they have nominated Johnson, I’m voting Libertarian again.
In my memory, every single LP Presidential nominee has been pro-life.
The Republican Party platform is pro-life, and the Libertarian Party platform, is radically pro-abortion.
Before you start launching attacks of ignorance at people, you should know what you are supporting.
Really? No one was arguing that the LP isn’t pro-abortion?
To: Forgotten Amendments
You didn’t know that the libertarian party is a pro-abortion party?
33 posted on Sat May 05 2012 22:08:22 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by ansel12
To: ansel12
They aren’t. Get informed.
34 posted on Sat May 05 2012 22:16:07 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Forgotten Amendments
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