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Gary Johnson Wins Libertarian Nod
KOB4 ^ | 05/05/20

Posted on 05/05/2012 5:37:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson is campaigning to win the White House as a Libertarian after receiving scant attention in the Republican presidential race.

Johnson easily became the party's presidential nominee at the Libertarian national convention in Las Vegas on Saturday.

He hopes to appeal to voters fed up with the traditional two-party system this November.

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He won 74 percent of the vote on the first ballot in Las Vegas, an unusual showing of support.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: garyjohnson; lasvegas; libertarians; likewowman; localstonermakesgood; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; nevada; newmexico; stoner; thc; wtfiiwnm

1 posted on 05/05/2012 5:37:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

RomneyBots and MittWits arriving to make fun of 3rd Parties in 3, 2, 1...


2 posted on 05/05/2012 5:39:25 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: nickcarraway
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3 posted on 05/05/2012 5:41:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: nickcarraway

4 posted on 05/05/2012 5:41:33 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: nickcarraway
I believe he is the first pro-abortion ever on the LP ticket. That's too bad, as I would definitely vote for him otherwise.
5 posted on 05/05/2012 5:41:39 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: nickcarraway

Their best bet is to reach an entente with the Tea Party, over issues of mutual agreement, and run on those in areas dominated by entrenched liberals of both parties.

By working for mutual goals in the campaign, neither side has to abandon its principals, just back-burner the more contentious ones to concentrate on the mutually popular ones.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 5:43:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Forgotten Amendments
I believe he is the first pro-abortion ever on the LP ticket. That's too bad, as I would definitely vote for him otherwise.

Too bad indeed if true. Makes it easier for me to cast my vote for Virgil Goode.

7 posted on 05/05/2012 5:44:27 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, the only question now is what fraction of 1% of the vote Gary will get.

I’m going to go with .4%. Not quite the 1980 high water mark of 1.1%, but not too shabby for a 3rd party outing.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 5:47:13 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: COBOL2Java
RomneyBots and MittWits arriving to make fun of 3rd Parties in 3, 2, 1...

The wise thing to do is encourage as many write in a 3rd party voters as possible to get to the polls. If nothing else, they can help save the down ticket races where it matters most of all.
9 posted on 05/05/2012 5:47:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nickcarraway
Well, I'll probably vote 3rd party this time, but Smokin' Gary ain't on my list. I guess it's Virgil Goode in the Constitution Party.

That, or intentionally vote for the re-election of The Usurper so that the economic collapse of America happens on his watch.

10 posted on 05/05/2012 5:50:38 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Makes it easier for me to cast my vote for Virgil Goode.

And he will definitely need your help. In the 2008 election cycle the Constitution Party just barely edged out Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party. It was a close call, but team Constitution seized .15% of the vote which was enough to sneak past the Green's .12% of the vote and vault them into 5th place!

11 posted on 05/05/2012 5:51:58 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Quite true, and I’d vote for him otherwise - even if all his campaign ads look like they were created by toddlers.


12 posted on 05/05/2012 5:59:29 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: nickcarraway

Wow....... exciting.......


13 posted on 05/05/2012 6:04:36 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: bamahead; traviskicks; 2ndDivisionVet

Libertarian ping


14 posted on 05/05/2012 6:10:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Longbow1969
In the 2008 election cycle the Constitution Party just barely edged out Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party. It was a close call, but team Constitution seized .15% of the vote which was enough to sneak past the Green's .12% of the vote and vault them into 5th place!

Well, at least there's someone I can vote for and keep my conscience clear.

15 posted on 05/05/2012 6:13:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks nickcarraway.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.


16 posted on 05/05/2012 6:13:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: COBOL2Java; Forgotten Amendments

Anyone that has succeeded in becoming the head of the 100% pro-abortion party, has to be doubted a little bit about their commitment to pro-life.


18 posted on 05/05/2012 6:40:41 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Yeah....

Anti-Roe v Wade. But a “It’s a States issue” type.

Libertarians like me are more in the “if it’s human, killing it is murder” camp.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 6:46:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Tzar
It’s tacky to run for one party’s nomination and then take another in the same election cycle.

Alan Keyes is the king of that tackiness. In 2008, in a single year, he ran in the Republican Party primary and could not get the result that he lusted for, so he ran in the Constitution Party primary and could not get the result that he lusted for, so he formed his own party and ran as it’s candidate, he did not even get 48,000 votes.

20 posted on 05/05/2012 6:50:10 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Forgotten Amendments

From what I understand then he is as much an infiltrate of that party as Romney is to the Republican party. Infiltrate and destroy.


21 posted on 05/05/2012 6:58:49 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

He is probably a pretty good match with the party.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.


22 posted on 05/05/2012 7:12:16 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Longbow1969; P-Marlowe

In the last major cycle election in Ohio, the Constitution party candidate for Attorney General received over 200,000 votes. The CP is heating up in the criss-crossed bible belts of rural Ohio.

If these voters didn’t like liberal republican DeWine for AG, then these same voters will come down even harder on Mitt Romney.

I expect upwards of that 200,000 CP votes in Ohio for Virgil Goode. Add to those, the votes won by Gary Johnson and you have a seismic event in swingstate Ohio.


23 posted on 05/05/2012 7:34:53 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
I expect upwards of that 200,000 CP votes in Ohio for Virgil Goode. Add to those, the votes won by Gary Johnson and you have a seismic event in swingstate Ohio.

I expect you will be very disappointed when none of that happens.

I just looked up that race. The CP party got 2.8% of the vote and that was with a major Tea Party PAC endorsement. Between the CP and LP combined, the only effect they had on the election was to come close to playing spoiler and give the race to the Democrat. The CP isn't going to have much, if any, Tea Party support in a presidential general election. Like it not, the overwhelmingly vast number of conservatives are going to vote for the GOP nominee. For every person that chases the 3rd party fantasy this year, another will regret having done that in the past and vote for the only candidate that can defeat Obama.

And one more problem you have with this 3rd party stuff is, a LOT of conservatives still have the Perot fiasco reasonably fresh in their minds. Perot managed to trick a lot of conservatives into voting for him, and it gave us 8 years of Clinton. Sadly, a Clinton that blunted much of the momentum conservatism had in the 1990's. Clinton didn't do much, but he did derail what should have been a very conservative and positive decade for the United States. No, 90%+ of conservatives aren't going to make that kind of mistake this time around.

24 posted on 05/05/2012 7:56:10 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: nickcarraway

Sure are going to be lots of candidates who think its okay to butcher innocent little babies this year.


25 posted on 05/05/2012 8:14:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ansel12

Someone once told me a definition of a libertarian: a conservative without the moral compass. True or false, your post reminded me of that.


26 posted on 05/05/2012 8:34:53 PM PDT by texaschick
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To: Longbow1969

I live here. I know the region. Their religious sentiment is deep and heartfelt.

I see the CP growing in Ohio.

FWIW, Robert Owens took 5% of the vote in 2008 Attny Genrl race. John McCain lost to Barack Obama by only 4.6% of the vote.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 8:45:10 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: texaschick

I see them as liberals who like conservative economics, or in a more basic way, children who fantasize, for example “open borders is fine, we merely eliminate all the social programs first, and then fewer people will come”, my answer to them is, first succeed in getting rid of the social programs in America, then we can discuss open borders, just like the left, they want all the bad stuff up front while selling you a bill of goods about a fantasy future.


28 posted on 05/05/2012 8:51:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tzar

“It’s tacky to run for one party’s nomination and then take another in the same election cycle.”

No,,, tacky is the GOP refusing to allow him in debates,, but allowing Huntsman when he was polling lower. For all the pot jokes,, he was the best Governor you can imagine. He had a belt fed veto gun,, lead by example,, and tackled New Mexico corruption head on.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 8:51:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ansel12
Anyone that has succeeded in becoming the head of the 100% pro-abortion party, has to be doubted a little bit about their commitment to pro-life.

You have no idea wtf you're talking about. Go tell Sean he's a "Great American" and leave this thread to people who inform themselves.

30 posted on 05/05/2012 10:00:19 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: Longbow1969
No, 90%+ of conservatives aren't going to make that kind of mistake this time around.

You're right. The vast majority will vote for the "lesser" of two evils, and be suprised when they get ...

evil.

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31 posted on 05/05/2012 10:05:42 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: nickcarraway

If Johnson wasn’t pro-abortion, he’d be almost the perfect candidate. I can’t get past that though.


32 posted on 05/05/2012 10:06:12 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

You didn’t know that the libertarian party is a pro-abortion party?


33 posted on 05/05/2012 10:08:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

They aren’t. Get informed.


34 posted on 05/05/2012 10:16:07 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Show me in the platform, where they offer any obstacle or opposition, to any abortion, at any level, at any stage, they absolutely are pro-abortion.

Libertarian Party Platform
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.


35 posted on 05/05/2012 10:37:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: xzins
FWIW, Robert Owens took 5% of the vote in 2008 Attny Genrl race. John McCain lost to Barack Obama by only 4.6% of the vote.

Yes, which demonstrates for you quite clearly the difference between a down ballot race with someone recognizable in a particular state, versus a national presidential race. In 2008 Owens got 4.83% of the vote in the Attorney General Race. The Republican (Mike Crites) was apparently uncompetitive anyway since he only got 38.43% of the vote. Meanwhile, on the Presidential level, McCain got 46.91% of the vote and the Constitution Party only received .22% of the vote - which actually means the CP finished 6th behind "Write-In's".

You're grasping at straws. The Constitution Party will be a complete non-factor in the 2012 general election. We see people expressing the same 3rd party fantasy every 4 years, only to have it predictably shattered once the vote comes in.

36 posted on 05/06/2012 3:17:37 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: EternalVigilance
Sure are going to be lots of candidates who think its okay to butcher innocent little babies this year.

Well, obviously some so-called conservatives would vote for the Mayor of Sodom as long as he had an "R" after his name.

37 posted on 05/06/2012 5:14:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: COBOL2Java

“Give us Barabbas! He can win!”


38 posted on 05/06/2012 5:21:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: COBOL2Java

I needed a tagline ...


39 posted on 05/06/2012 5:22:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Give us Barabbas! He can win!')
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To: nickcarraway

Gary Johnson was my choice going into the primary season, but his campaign never caught fire, so I shifted support to Cain. After Cain’s campaign flamed out on accusations of heterosexuality, I supported Gingrich. He may have had his personality problems, but I have always admired his vision.

Years ago I was a registered Libertarian, until the increasing nuttiness and a string of who’s-he candidates drove me back to the GOP. Now that they have nominated Johnson, I’m voting Libertarian again.


40 posted on 05/06/2012 2:37:59 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: ansel12
By that reasoning, Republicans are all pro-life!

In my memory, every single LP Presidential nominee has been pro-life.

41 posted on 05/06/2012 3:17:34 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

The Republican Party platform is pro-life, and the Libertarian Party platform, is radically pro-abortion.

Before you start launching attacks of ignorance at people, you should know what you are supporting.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 3:45:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
No one ever argued about the LP platforms. The candidates have always been pro-life. That surprises a lot of people. But, it shouldn't.
43 posted on 05/06/2012 6:22:13 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Really? No one was arguing that the LP isn’t pro-abortion?

To: Forgotten Amendments
You didn’t know that the libertarian party is a pro-abortion party?
33 posted on Sat May 05 2012 22:08:22 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by ansel12

To: ansel12
They aren’t. Get informed.
34 posted on Sat May 05 2012 22:16:07 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Forgotten Amendments


44 posted on 05/06/2012 6:43:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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