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Could the U.S. give up Mount Rushmore? Iconic site is on list of 'sacred land' UN says
UK Guardian ^ | May 5, 2012 | By Snejana Farberov

Posted on 05/05/2012 8:03:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A UN human official is urging the U.S. to turn over control of lands considered to be sacred to Native Americans, including the site of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial.

James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, unveiled his recommendations in Geneva on Friday after completing a 12-day visit to the U.S. where he met with representatives of indigenous peoples in six states.

The fact-finder also had a chance to meet members of the Obama administration and briefed the U.S. Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, but no member of Congress agreed to meet with him.

For over a century, he said, the government had seized lands and resources from Native Americans, removed children from their families and communities, caused the loss of languages, broke treaties with tribes and oppressed the indigenous peoples on the grounds of racial discrimination.

Mount Rushmore, a popular tourist attraction, is located in the Black Hills, which the Sioux tribes consider to be sacred and have territorial claims to based on an 1868 treaty.

Shortly after that treaty was signed, gold was discovered in the region, and the U.S. Congress eventually passed a law taking over the land.

'I'm talking about restoring to indigenous peoples what obviously they're entitled to and they have a legitimate claim to in a way that is not divisive but restorative,' Mr Anaya said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: guessagain; irrelevant; jamesanaya; nationaltreasureii; rushmore; southdakota; un; unitednations
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1 posted on 05/05/2012 8:03:43 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
First Mt. Rushmore; next, all of North America. Because the Indians predate the black slaves, I suspect the Indians will win out. HOWEVER, they threw out Homo Erectus who was the first to arrive here from Asia. Therefore, the UN should dispute the Indians' claims.


2 posted on 05/05/2012 8:08:14 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I say we take over the UN building in New Yuck, turn it into a gun range, and boot those idjits the hell out of America. Free range passes to all indigenous Americans, half price shooting for everybody else on weekends.

Who’s with me?


3 posted on 05/05/2012 8:08:28 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Agenda 21 .... anybody???


4 posted on 05/05/2012 8:08:31 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Umm. NO.


5 posted on 05/05/2012 8:11:16 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: acapesket

Speaking for myself and almost every American I know, or have
ever known ; “ SCREW THE UN “.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 8:13:37 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"HOWEVER, they threw out Homo Erectus who was the first to arrive here from Asia."

As opposed to Erectus Homo who made a point of arriving fashionably late...


7 posted on 05/05/2012 8:13:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Eff that. They lost.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 8:13:52 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sort of like Islam destroying all the Buddha statues.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 8:14:18 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

repartions have been made. request denied. please refer any further requests to the Spaniards.


10 posted on 05/05/2012 8:17:43 PM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Anyone who isn't aware of U.N. Agenda 21 had better wise up and get some learnin'!
11 posted on 05/05/2012 8:19:22 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why would he be allowed in the US for such a mission?


12 posted on 05/05/2012 8:23:27 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: DBrow

U N ... eat Sxxx - and keep your f’n troops off OUR land and take

the Kenyan with you when we get somebody with the courage to

kick your commie asses outa here. I hear there is plenty of land

available in Siberia and probably at a good price.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 8:26:12 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This bugs me, I mean, who really knows who came over here first. I believe, and it seems that there is some evidence, that ancient people got around more than we think they did. If we go by the Kennewick Man, Whitey has been running around North America along with the American Indians and so on. I know, and it is a shame the American Indians got the short end of the stick, I know what it is like, my Jewish ancestors in Russia had bad things happen too but we need to get over that and live life as it is today. Sure we remember and remember we must so we can say “never again,” but this victimhood card that is played is really a way to redistribute wealth as well as put the progressives in control over the rest of us. We need to tell the UN to go play in traffic.


14 posted on 05/05/2012 8:27:11 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sorry!
That is a photo of a Homo Insaneous... the “erectus” part is entirely questionable.

This is a “catcher pig assorious”!


15 posted on 05/05/2012 8:29:00 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Shiite. Don’t scare me like that. You gotta give us some kind of warning before you do that or a Helen Thomas creep shot. Sheesh I thought there was a posted rule about that somewhere around here. Let me dig around see if I find anything.


16 posted on 05/05/2012 8:29:08 PM PDT by Kudsman (The troubles begin and end with the "Progressives" -1010RD)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I just spit a mouthful of water.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 8:36:31 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thankfully Americans are too smart to elect anyone President who considers himself to be a “citizen of the world”....


18 posted on 05/05/2012 8:36:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sure, NOW they’re all worried about property rights.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 8:37:20 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

America would be better off giving up the U.N.

Let the GSA have the U.N, building as an “event planning center”.

Tell the U.N. to take a hike and quit pretending it has jurisdiction or authority to make such asinine pronouncements.


20 posted on 05/05/2012 8:37:44 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If the Indians or the UN want it back or to have any kind of say in the matter...They are going to have to take it by force from us first.

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...and I am ready anytime you want to try it!

21 posted on 05/05/2012 8:37:53 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Lone Watie: We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.
22 posted on 05/05/2012 8:38:12 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: Kudsman
"...You gotta give us some kind of warning before you do that or a Helen Thomas creep shot..."

Man. No kidding...

23 posted on 05/05/2012 8:38:32 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I have been interested in archaeology and anthropology for over 25 years and I am unaware Homo Erectus ever lived in North America.


24 posted on 05/05/2012 8:38:32 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The UN charter says that the purpose of the organization is to prevent wars BETWEEN nations. They are not to interfere in internal affairs. This twerp has NO right to condemn America at all.

Moreover, just about every large nation has an issue with what to do with indigenous people who once owned land that a majority took over.

It isn't just America or Canada. There are little tribes all over the planet that are dealing with how to keep their land and culture.

Plus, early American Indians were stone age hunters and warriors who were often constantly at war with each other, killing and torturing their enemies. These tribes often destroyed neighboring groups to take over THEIR land.

It wasn't romantic "Dancing with Wolves" kind of life.

If this UN Bureaucrat had lived then he would probably be the first one scalped.


25 posted on 05/05/2012 8:40:53 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sure.

Why not?

Just a bunch of old white guys.

Who cares?


26 posted on 05/05/2012 8:45:47 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Absolutely not. Never.

I do fear, however, that our Dear Leader will bow and scrape his way into submission. Sadly, it wouldn’t surprise me.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 8:47:31 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Pompah
Speaking for myself and almost every American I know, or have ever known : “ SCREW THE UN “.

LOL!! What you said. :)

28 posted on 05/05/2012 8:48:45 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Native Americans?

Don’t most all of us, like the Blue-eyed Squaw from Massachusetts, have a little Indian blood in us?


29 posted on 05/05/2012 8:50:13 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: WXRGina

ping


30 posted on 05/05/2012 8:50:43 PM PDT by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: West Texas Chuck

“I say we take over the UN building in New Yuck, turn it into a gun range, and boot those idjits the hell out of America. Free range passes to all indigenous Americans, half price shooting for everybody else on weekends.

Who’s with me?”

Aye Aye, Captain!


31 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:02 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Hey, Mr Anaya....

Photobucket

32 posted on 05/05/2012 9:05:57 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Sawdring
"I have been interested in archaeology and anthropology for over 25 years and I am unaware Homo Erectus ever lived in North America." Well, then you missed San Fran buddy...
33 posted on 05/05/2012 9:09:14 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Joe 6-pack

You just ruined a lot of keyboards with that one Joe, shame on you. :)


34 posted on 05/05/2012 9:19:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: andyk

“Why would he be allowed in the US for such a mission?”

He probably lives here. His mission has nothing to do with Indian sensibilities and evertything to do with to do with ceding everything around us to the UN who are already riding heard on our own government agencies like the EPA. These busybodies plan to hang around around to pilot spaceship earth after they use the rest of us for fertilizer (These stewards of the environment will probably be eaten by rodents before they even learn to make a campfire).

Anyway, there are a few references to UN Agenda 21 on this thread. Click on the link on Post 11 to get an idea what they’re up to.


35 posted on 05/05/2012 9:42:38 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What about Americans? Don’t we have any “sacred land”? I mean, what could be more “sacred” to Americans than Mt. Rushmore?


36 posted on 05/05/2012 9:42:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: Sawdring

Hey, do you always take the fun out of all parties?


37 posted on 05/05/2012 9:44:56 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

38 posted on 05/05/2012 9:47:11 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: haroldeveryman
Could the U.S. give up Mount Rushmore? Iconic site is on list of 'sacred land' UN says

Come on, UN. Try to enforce it. Be sure to wear to wear those blue UN helmets. They'll blend in with the Western landscape.
39 posted on 05/05/2012 9:49:23 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As a compromise solution the faces on Mt. Rushmore will be reshaped into the faces of Native American heroes according to anonymous sources.
40 posted on 05/05/2012 9:51:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Nowhere Man
Whitey has been running around North America along with the American Indians and so on. I know, and it is a shame the American Indians got the short end of the stick,

Like there are more of them alive now that at any time in the past and living under better conditions (the so-called reservations notwithstanding).
41 posted on 05/05/2012 9:54:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: G Larry

America would be better off giving up the U.N.

Its not just about being “better off”. This is about survival as a sovereign nation. Adenda 21 is economic and cultural warfare being waged upon this nation. Simple as that.


42 posted on 05/05/2012 10:02:25 PM PDT by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: haroldeveryman

there are a few references to UN Agenda 21 on this thread. Click on the link on Post 11 to get an idea what they’re up to.

Few realize also that federal regulations on the American fishing industry now conform to Agenda 21. This has devastated the industry since about 1996. All around the coast fishermen are going out of business because of this.

In New England, the Gov. of Mass. declared an Economic Disaster because of it. Then in the SE they were actually going to close the ocean for up to 35 yrs.

We are now importing 85% of seafood consumed from VietNam, China, ect


43 posted on 05/05/2012 10:15:32 PM PDT by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Joe 6-pack

As soon as I quit laughin’..I’m going to bed.

Thanks, I needed it!


44 posted on 05/05/2012 10:25:48 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A UN human official is urging the U.S. to turn over control of lands considered to be sacred to Native Americans, including the site of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial. James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, unveiled his recommendations in Geneva on Friday after completing a 12-day visit to the U.S. where he met with representatives of indigenous peoples in six states

If the American people had any sand, this guy would be run over the northern border on a rail, or shot outright. This man is a FOREIGN ENEMY of America and the Constitution.

But our neutered population won't do anything.

45 posted on 05/05/2012 10:26:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would say exactly what I think of the UN, but that kind of language would get me booted off FR for a week or two, maybe permanently.


46 posted on 05/05/2012 10:28:28 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Redmen4ever

By “Native Americans” is meant “Aboriginal Americans”. You know, “Nativism” was once a term for Anti-immigrationists, as they correctly counted themselves as natives, having been born here. More recently, I recall hearing a University of Vermont basketball player being referred to as a “native Vermonter” ( This was the year Vermont made inroads in the NCAA tournament. ) “Well,” I thought, “If he’s a native Vermonter, why isn’t he a Native American?” It’s kind of depressing if you think about it.


47 posted on 05/05/2012 10:46:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Vendome

And when they came here, they stole the land from somebody else.


48 posted on 05/05/2012 10:47:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.


49 posted on 05/05/2012 10:54:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

From the 2010 Republican Party of Texas Platform, page 29:

“We urge Congress to evict the United Nations from the United States and eliminate any further participation.”

Yes. We do.


50 posted on 05/05/2012 11:12:11 PM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were $9.4 Trillion dollars ago?)
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