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Pitts: Trayvon ‘killed by a stereotype’
The Miami Herald ^ | May 5, 2012 | Leonard Pitts Jr.

Posted on 05/06/2012 12:18:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care about George Zimmerman’s MySpace page.

Granted, it was gratifying to read recently in The Miami Herald about his crude animus toward Mexicans (“soft ass wanna be thugs”) and his reference to a former girlfriend as an “ex-hoe.” Given the way white supremacists and other Zimmerman supporters have exaggerated and manufactured evidence to paint Zimmerman’s unarmed 17-year-old victim, Trayvon Martin, as a thug who somehow deserved shooting, this unflattering portrait offers the same satisfaction one feels any time the goose is basted with sauce that was prepared for the gander.

But ultimately, Zimmerman’s online profile is as irrelevant as Trayvon’s to any real understanding of the social dynamics that were at play the night the boy was shot to death. Worse, our fixation on this ephemera, the need on the one hand to make Trayvon some dark gangsta straight from Central Casting and on the other to find a Klan hood in the back of Zimmerman’s closet, suggests a shallow, even naïve, understanding of the role race seems to have played in this tragedy.

The pertinent fact is that Zimmerman found Trayvon suspicious because, as he told the 911 dispatcher, the boy was walking slowly and looking around. That might be the behavior of a boy who was turned around in an unfamiliar neighborhood. Or of a boy enjoying a cell phone conversation with a girl and not overly eager to return to where his sweet nothings might be overheard by his dad.

That no such alternate possibilities seem to have occurred to Zimmerman for even an instant suggests the degree to which we as a people have grown comfortable with the belief that black is crime and crime is black. Nor are African Americans immune to the effects of that invidious formulation....

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So they're doubling down on this one? Crazy!
1 posted on 05/06/2012 12:18:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the hoodie fits.


2 posted on 05/06/2012 12:23:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Pitts fits the leftist disinformation campaign as outlined here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/trayvon_and_zimmerman_the_structure_and_elements_of_a_disinformation_campaign.html

Highly recommended, right down to the use of Trayvon for the kid and Zimmerman for the shooter.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 12:28:14 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have NEVER understood why this event got so much screenplay.

This happens almost EVERY day somewhere in America.
Even if you factor in the white/mixed factor,
What makes this one such a big deal?
Well, OK, I know it is a leftist ploy to exploit it.


4 posted on 05/06/2012 12:31:25 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FOAD, Pitts.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 12:32:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...Trayvon Martin, as a thug who somehow deserved shooting...

He did. There, I said it. I would've done exactly the same thing. Actually no. According to the defensive firearms training I've had, in that situation you're supposed to empty the magazine into someone attacking you at that range. At that range an attacker is too dangerous and must be stopped immediately. The very next blow from the attacker could kill or incapacitate you leading to your death. So there is no shoot, look/evaluate, maybe shoot again. As the instructor put it, at arms reach or less, empty the magazine into an attacker, then re-evaluate as you reload. But what the h*ll, what does he know - just an ex SEAL and current firearms instructor...

Or of a boy enjoying a cell phone conversation with a girl and not overly eager to return to where his sweet nothings might be overheard by his dad.

Aw, isn't that just so sweet - I think I got a cavity just reading it. Totally irrelevant. Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating his skull into the concrete sidewalk. No matter how those two people came to be in that situation, that's where they were at. At that time Zimmerman's life was most certainly in danger. He had every right, every obligation to protect himself and respond with deadly force. End of story.

6 posted on 05/06/2012 12:33:55 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a self-righteous, sanctimonious limosine-liberal fool. Someone should challenge him to live in the ghetto unarmed and without bodyguards for a year.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 12:37:19 AM PDT by jonatron (This is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
as he told the 911 dispatcher, the boy was walking slowly and looking around

The purpose of Neighborhood Watch, an official government funded organization, is to report just this behavior to the police.

8 posted on 05/06/2012 12:38:04 AM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

His gun jammed after the first shot.


9 posted on 05/06/2012 12:39:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That no such alternate possibilities seem to have occurred to Zimmerman for even an instant suggests the degree to which we as a people have grown comfortable with the belief that black is crime and crime is black. Nor are African Americans immune to the effects of that invidious formulation.

Well, as the navigator said to Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove, "I'm sorry, sir, but those are the figures."

10 posted on 05/06/2012 12:41:07 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Although Blacks supposedly can not be racist, Leonard Pitts sees everything through the filter of race. Our local paper publishes his editorials from time to time and he often colors his writing with similar rhetoric.
11 posted on 05/06/2012 12:44:45 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: donna
The purpose of Neighborhood Watch, an official government funded organization, is to report just this behavior to the police.

Exactly. That whole:

That might be the behavior of a boy who was turned around in an unfamiliar neighborhood. Or of a boy enjoying a cell phone conversation with a girl and not overly eager to return to where his sweet nothings might be overheard by his dad.

Or it could be the behavior of a criminal casing houses. Who is up late, who isn't. Where might my next home invasion be... Where is that Audi I saw drive into this neighborhood, my bro has a call out for one... Where the h*ll is xxxx Riverview, that's where Tony said the papers were stacking up on the porch...

Suspicious behavior is suspicious behavior, no excuses. As a youth I've had more than one conversation with law enforcement when I was doing something stupid - and yes I deserved the talking to every time. I'm alive today 'cause I told them exactly what I was doing, I didn't jump on top of anyone and start beating them up.

12 posted on 05/06/2012 12:47:04 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: AlexW

But Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic, black and white. I’m guessing when the black and other Lefty reporters at WaPo, NBC and the NYT initially heard “Zimmerman” they figured they’d be able to crucify a Jew for killing a martyred black teenager.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 12:47:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's a man who has an answer for Leonad "POS" Pitts.

Treyvon Martin & black slaves

14 posted on 05/06/2012 12:50:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of these race-baiter types know exactly what the deal is and only spew their nonsense for public consumption by idiots. But there are a few, like Mr. Pitts, who are stupid enough to really believe it.

The urban black thug is most definitely a “cliche” but many thousands of black Americans are murdered by this “cliche” every year.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 12:52:57 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Or of a boy enjoying a cell phone conversation with a girl and not overly eager to return to where his sweet nothings might be overheard by his dadl

If we are to believe the phone records Skittles was on the phone for 6 hrs that day with DeeDee. His Dad was not home at the time of the incident.

16 posted on 05/06/2012 12:54:20 AM PDT by ironman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here is the comment I posted there:

I think Mr. Pitts makes some good points. But he is really missing the BIG picture for the black community.

That is that it is not white people, or “white-hispanic” people, or even the police who are a danger to the black community. It is black people killing other black people that is the main problem.

I don’t know why the black community and people like Mr. Pitts continue to overlook this problem and instead focus on man-bites-dog stories like this unfortunate incident.

If Trayvon Martin had been set upon by another black fellow and killed for the pocket change he had left after the skittles and iced tea purchase it might not even have made the paper at all.

Stuff like that happens every day.

It’s a problem. Especially for the victims.

When is ANYBODY going to deal with it? [End quote]

I did think he made some good points about not judging people by their facebook pages and twitter feeds (is that what you say, twitter feeds?).

But he was just silly about the “sweet nothings”.

And another commenter at the site had a good point about Dad not being home to supervise the suspended Trayvon.

But, my main point is still the same. How long are black people going to keep falling for the “distractions” provided them by the Left?


17 posted on 05/06/2012 12:57:49 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...we as a people have grown comfortable with the belief that black is crime and crime is black."

The "we" of the above quote is the black culture for the past 2 decades.

Everybody I know who is not black, initially presume the opposite, however, a very large percentage of the black culture identifies their "blackness" with criminality and criminality with their "blackness". It is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially when they ignore the rights of their victims, such as this article asserts.

It is an unspoken phenomenon amongst honest blacks, giving rise to their perception that all others are racist, exacerbating the problem.

18 posted on 05/06/2012 12:57:54 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

And, if Trayvon was worried, he could have called 911.


19 posted on 05/06/2012 1:01:44 AM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: TigersEye

Dayyuuum!


20 posted on 05/06/2012 1:12:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: donna

An eyewitness claims there was a brawl between T and Z that started when T jumped Z. Pitts does not even give that allegation the dignity of a mention, as if it were obvious it couldn’t be so. He fools only people who are not familiar with the story.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 1:12:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: denydenydeny
The urban black thug is most definitely a “cliche” but many thousands of black Americans are murdered by this “cliche” every year.

It's more than a cliche. It describes a very real prominent culture within African-Americans, and is limited to that population because it is a racist culture, insisting to identify their race with criminality.

The Trayvon death wasn't 'unfortunate'.

There was a time in a God-fearing and worshiping America when a person thought, then acted to try to physically assault with intent to murder was worthy of immediate capital punishment. Innocent bystanders would have been in many cases obliged to execute deadly force in the defense of the victim to halt a murder in progress.

Instead, criminals today perceive the judicial system as a mechanism to enforce the freedom of all people to behave criminally, instead of defending the freedom of those who respect legitimate authority.

Never were our rights identified to condone criminality. Those who refuse to discern between right and wrong, inheriting our governance of rights, are led to confuse the rights of the righteous with freedom to behave criminally.

22 posted on 05/06/2012 1:13:50 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: donna
And, if Trayvon was worried, he could have called 911.

And if he had, the dispatcher would have told him that the man following him was already on the phone with them reporting him for suspicious behavior. Then the dispatcher would have told him that the police were on the on the way, and to just wait for them.

Instead Martin decided to give Zimmerman a beat down, which ended up getting him shot.

23 posted on 05/06/2012 1:17:25 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Cvengr

Part of the problem is that by the very structure of the legal system, it is criminal cases that spawn the majority of appellate opinions supporting individual rights. There’s no way for Joe Blow on the street to bring a case and get an opinion issued as a victim or potential victim of crime.


24 posted on 05/06/2012 1:20:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman’s comments about Mexicans and his ex-girlfriend were written SEVEN years ago, when he was 21.


25 posted on 05/06/2012 1:38:17 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: dfwgator

America’s culture problem is Black Racism.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 3:01:16 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Cvengr
Everybody I know who is not black, initially presume the opposite...

Then you must not know any white liberals. The black people that I know don't make that same assumption, but they are hard working Christians. I know a few liberals who insist that the very act of speaking out against street crime is racist.

27 posted on 05/06/2012 3:25:05 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Ʋ)
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To: TigersEye

Does that mean f*** off and die?


28 posted on 05/06/2012 3:28:40 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘Boy’ is a white,racist word!

-Michael Evans,from ‘Good Times’


29 posted on 05/06/2012 3:32:55 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Face it, some people will not face reality - particularly if it doesn’t fit their agenda.


30 posted on 05/06/2012 3:39:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pitts IS the ‘arm pit of commie media’. The following lies are typical of a ‘Pitts Piece’:
1. “Or of a boy enjoying a cell phone conversation with a girl and not overly eager to return to where his sweet nothings might be overheard by his dad.”
LibTard LIE! Daddy was away from the house, “couldn’t
have overheard” Trayvon.
2. “we as a people have grown comfortable with the belief that black is crime and crime is black. Nor are African Americans immune to the effects of that invidious formulation.”
Libtard Lies! Blacks are 39 times more likely to be
killed by a black than a white. Truth
isn’t “invidious”. Truth is just true.
3. “.. we — African Americans — still believe the garbage of innate criminality.”
Deliberate duplicity! Blacks are far more likely to be criminals, and the statistics are clear and unambiguous.
4. “maintaining a society that, in ways both overt and covert, still makes criminality a function of skin.”
Black BS! Pigmentation is predictive, not determinative.
Black individuals decide to become criminals.
5. “Trayvon Martin was killed by a stereotype.”
Black Lie! Trayvon died for pounding a man’s head into the sidewalk.

“You asked for it. You got it. Trayvon.”

My apologies to Toyota.


31 posted on 05/06/2012 3:51:36 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah I would say it was a stereotypical bullet.


32 posted on 05/06/2012 3:52:04 AM PDT by xp38
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To: GladesGuru

RE post #31, my apologies to all for the format error.


33 posted on 05/06/2012 3:58:48 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: ThunderSleeps

>>I would’ve done exactly the same thing. Actually no. According to the defensive firearms training I’ve had, in that situation you’re supposed to empty the magazine into someone attacking you at that range.

From the reports I’ve seen, the chamber in Jorge’s Kel-Tec was empty. It seems quite likely Trayvon had a hand on the pistol when it was fired, which prevented the action cycling to load a new round. Thus, in this case, what you propose wasn’t possible. Fortunately for Jorge, that one shot stopped the threat. This is not a high-probability event with a pistol round, so he got lucky there, else his brains might have been scrambled on the sidewalk.


34 posted on 05/06/2012 4:06:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ThunderSleeps

excellant post....I am going to keep the “its so sweet”...” think I got a cavity” line.ha.

I keep thinking what if that was me..how would I react?

But we are in Alice in wonderland now..God help us.


35 posted on 05/06/2012 4:11:09 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leonard Pitts Jr., the author of this piece.

Leonard Pitts Jr. wants us not to consider blacks as a group when crime is involved. Does he really think there are no cultural aspects to high black crime rates? Does he really want us to not consider blacks as a group when, say, Affirmative Action is the subject? I don't know his position on this, but I know where I'd place my bet, and it would be squarely on hypocrisy for Leonard.

36 posted on 05/06/2012 4:20:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The irony here is that the only people who would believe this pile of dung is the GANGSTAS who don't read newspapers or even follow the news anyway.
37 posted on 05/06/2012 4:23:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: srmorton

Our local rag, The Buffalo News carries Pitts also and reinforces him with our own home grown version of Pitts, a fellow named Ron Watson. Sees everything, and I mean EVERYTHING through the prism of his “blackness”. Common sense and the ability to recognize simple facts are all filtered out as they go through that prism.


38 posted on 05/06/2012 4:25:32 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: jmaroneps37

Oh, I don’t know. I assume he’ll have them wetting their panties over at the DUmp, Kos Kindergarten, ACORN, Moron.Org, SEIU and HuffandBlow.


39 posted on 05/06/2012 4:26:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: TigersEye

Revolvers don’t jam, that is why they are my choice.


40 posted on 05/06/2012 4:28:51 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: FreedomPoster

A picture is worth a thousand words.

It is easy to see his viewpoint.

It’s dead wrong but it is his and the viewpoint of many who wish to riot.


41 posted on 05/06/2012 4:31:49 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon brutally attacked Zimmerman and deserved to be shot.

There is no justification for Trayvon’s actions.

End of story.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 4:38:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So this must mean that 'Neighborhood Watch' has no purpose? And PC speaking; no Legal purpose?

All to say; what are they watching for?

43 posted on 05/06/2012 5:01:59 AM PDT by cricket (Easier to keep Mitt in line; than to derail Obama. NO four more. .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pitts: Trayvon ‘killed by a stereotype'
Uh .... Leonard. Ever watch the TV show First 48?? A lot of those 'stereotypes' sure be doing an awful lot of killings.

I'm actually surprised that program is still on TV. I thought for sure Al and Jesse would've been all over it by now. ["It's RACIST showing blacks murdering most of the people".]

44 posted on 05/06/2012 5:47:04 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: AlexW

“Zimmerman” = “white Jew” shoots black youth. Then they (press, activists, etc) couldn’t back down. Example- “white Hispanic”


45 posted on 05/06/2012 5:53:10 AM PDT by capt B
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
by Leonard Pitts Jr.
I stopped reading right there.
46 posted on 05/06/2012 5:55:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Pitts can kiss my ass.


47 posted on 05/06/2012 6:08:31 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM’s stereotypical narratives and templates foment strife where none exists, and in fact they have blood on their hands.


48 posted on 05/06/2012 6:11:29 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This kid got killed because he DIDN’T just go home....acted like a punk and unfortunately got killed


49 posted on 05/06/2012 6:18:33 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Pitts weren’t black he’d have nothing to write about. He is obsessed with his color and the color of others – as any racist.


50 posted on 05/06/2012 6:42:32 AM PDT by vortigern
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