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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 ^ | May 6, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!

IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !


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To: GreyMountainReagan

Maybe you should just leave if this isn’t to your liking Grey, otherwise it would seem you’re being here is to cause havoc rather than come to any resolution.

You haven’t liked this site for quite awhile now as your forum clearly expresses.....so truly why do you continue here?


1,001 posted on 05/07/2012 1:23:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: laotzu; eastforker
Eastforker, speaks for a great many here, and for a great many that used to be here. Salute.

EF is a hardline admitted atheist. Period.

EF is a Atheist Bigot. And, IMO has his own little agenda here...and that is to stop all religious talk/debate.

The very fact you "find" debate, facts, defense, discussion..un-American is frankly UN-AMERICAN!!

1,002 posted on 05/07/2012 1:25:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: laotzu; eastforker; CatherineofAragon; EnglishCon; reaganaut; All
Despite my reluctance to rejoin conversation, I cannot leave a fine conservative veteran poster, like eastforker, left hanging alone. This delight in religion bashing being advocated & viciously defended, absolutely un-American [Laotzu, post #918]

An attack on a religion, or a lack of religion, for no other reason except to trash it, IMHO, is very un-American [Eastforker, post #157]

To me, to heartily bash Americans as "un-American" is not only reminscent of McCarthy's committee of "un-American" activities, but is one of the worst "bashes" you can make on a thread that surrounds a focus on a "Free Republic."

Beyond that, it's a self-refutation when both of these posters are seemingly concerned about the "bashing" going on of those they bash as "un-American."

Sure. If somebody wants to come here with their virtual pulprit and preach, "Thou shalt not bash." By all means...proceed...But you know...we expect preachers to practice the "non-bashing." We don't expect the preachers of "non-bashing" to try to lead a bashing choir...[see post #395 for yet another bash of Reaganaut's religious principles]

Otherwise it comes across as Ghandi preaching non-violence, all as he commits it!

1,003 posted on 05/07/2012 1:30:24 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: ohioWfan

Oh and totally discounting everything else I wrote because you got called out.


1,004 posted on 05/07/2012 1:33:05 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
I know exactly what I wrote and why. It is you who grossly misunderstood by taking things completely out of context and jumping to absurd conclusions.

To help you understand what I really said (though if you actually read the words, you'll get it on your own)......

I said that long ago I decided I needed to stay away from "religious threads," and it is in that context I used the word "demonic." (That usually was the anti-Christian side, but sometimes included both sides of the arguments).

The idea that everyone claiming to be a Christian on the Internet actually IS one, and the idea that every word proceding from the mouth of even those of us who ARE Christians is of God doesn't jibe with Scripture.

Do you remember when Jesus said to Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan?" Do you think that Peter knew he was being used by the devil at that time?

If you don't understand that spiritual warfare also includes trying to bring down Christians by luring them into the sins of unrighteous anger, arrogance, self-absorbtion, hatred, spite, ego, willful blindness, and every other evil, your knowledge of the Scripture you claim to believe is shallow and imprecise.

We are ALL sinners, saved by Grace, and shouting nasty things on the Internet to those who disagree with us and then calling it 'defending the faith' is something we ALL need to be aware of and pray for the strength and wisdom to fight against.

I don't know for sure, of course, but I highly doubt that many, if any, come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ by being belittled and brow beaten on an internent forum.

1,005 posted on 05/07/2012 1:33:39 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Colofornian
Yeah, Elz...keep this up and who knows where this fanaticism might lead?...

Uh....

Thinking like a MORMON???




1,006 posted on 05/07/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

Called out for what? Your entire premise was based on factual error.


1,007 posted on 05/07/2012 1:35:02 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: chris37; eastforker
Eastforker’s point was proven by the contents of this thread quite possibly better than any other point ever proven in the entire recorded history of points proven.

ROFLOL!!....WOW...what a statement!! You and EF need to get a room.

No one is going to come to Christ via the brow beating that is visible here, if anything, the exact opposite will occur.

Nobody here on this tread...that I've read is trying to win someone to Christ.

I generally see...people here warning others about false religions. ie: mormonism.

I figure that's your rub....though, and you call it, bigotry.

1,008 posted on 05/07/2012 1:37:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: ohioWfan
Here is what you wrote:
blah blah blah and they are all demonic.
As a born (claimed) Christian you should be calling out false prophets and teaching. We are commanded to do so.
To mormonism it is false .
To Romney he is a liberal and also practices mormonism.
To me I will not vote for the liberal called Romney - period!
To you do what you want.
1,009 posted on 05/07/2012 1:41:09 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MARKUSPRIME
Im voting for the survival of the Republic as we know it.

You know; there is nothing wrong with this; as it is my wish as well.

There seems to be two types of folks in this thread, and they are both right.

One type will 'accept' Romney; thinking he is slightly better than Obama. The others think that NEITHER is worth a tinker's damn and are focused on a longer view.

What is weird, though, is that in BOTH camps there are those that are REALLY upset that religion has, one, reared it's ugly head, or, two, it's not being represented 'correctly'; especially by ME.




1,010 posted on 05/07/2012 1:42:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

If eastforker is an atheist, which I do not know nor care about, his “religion” is equally valid as mormonism, catholicism, baptist, anabaptist, anglican, shia, sunni, ba’hai, shinto, the various types of judaism and buddism .... got bored writing them so add any others you feel like.

Bashing anyones religion is un-American. It is right there in that document you are so proud of and many posters and members here are sworn to defend.

“Prohibiting free exercise of” - ridicule is equally effective as threats and intimidation and far more damaging.

I don’t know eastforker from Adam. As far as I recall we have never talked, argued with each other, or agreed with each other on anything.
But he is right by the very words of your law.


1,011 posted on 05/07/2012 1:44:07 PM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: svcw
Here is what you wrote:
blah blah blah and they are all demonic.

Well at least we all know your level of comprehension, and understand why you wrote something that had no bearing whatsoever on anything I actually said.

I figured there was an ulterior motive that had nothing to do with actual faith in Christ.

Thanks for letting me know. Conversation over.

Blessings.

1,012 posted on 05/07/2012 1:45:10 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: fml
...y'all just keep coming back.

You guys are worse than cockroaches.

Ma'am??

We've not heard of MORMON cockroaches...



...but we HAVE some knowledge of MORMON Crickets...




1,013 posted on 05/07/2012 1:46:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
I had no delusions that speaking the truth in love would stop your emotional rampage.

Thanks for this clarification.

I was thinking you had some kind of FACTUAL problem with my posts.

1,014 posted on 05/07/2012 1:48:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: woofie
This is the kind of spiritual music that should be played on FR these days:

Should be; But I suspect that THIS may be be on a lot of posters Ipods...


(click)
Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


1,015 posted on 05/07/2012 1:50:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: laotzu
This delight in religion bashing being advocated & viciously defended, is absolutely un-American.

WOW!

The ULTIMATE trump card - even better than shouting NAZI!!!

1,016 posted on 05/07/2012 1:53:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: laotzu
This delight in religion bashing ...

Brigham Young...

"For unbelievers we will quote from the Scriptures - "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." Again - "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God."

 I will now give my scripture - "Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the kingdom of God on the earth, that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist.......

 - BrighamYoung

 

 

 

Here's some MORE for MORMON's...

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned; and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given, and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

- JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

 

 

It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.

I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.

- JoD 1:50-51 (April 9, 1852)

 

 

The rank, rabid abolitionists, whom I call black-hearted Republicans, have set the whole national fabric on fire. Do you know this, Democrats? They have kindled the fire that is raging now from the north to the south, and from the south to the north. I am no abolitionist, neither am I a proslavery man; I hate some of their principles and especially some of their conduct, as I do the gates of hell. The Southerners make the negroes, and the Northerners worship them; this is all the difference between slaveholders. and abolitionists. I would like the President of the United States and all the world to hear this.

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.

- JoD: vol.10 p. 110: (March 8, 1863)

It looks like BrighamYoung was pretty good at bashings.

1,017 posted on 05/07/2012 1:54:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: laotzu; eastforker; CatherineofAragon; EnglishCon; reaganaut; All
Despite my reluctance to rejoin conversation, I cannot leave a fine conservative veteran poster, like eastforker, left hanging alone. This delight in religion bashing being advocated & viciously defended, absolutely un-American [Laotzu, post #918]

An attack on a religion, or a lack of religion, for no other reason except to trash it, IMHO, is very un-American [Eastforker, post #157]

In honor of the sentiments expressed above, 'tis overdue for...

The Freeper Hypocritical Oath [Articles of Religious 'Faith' for Atheists & Buddhists Desiring to add another 'Face']

1. "Thou shalt not bash."
2. "If thy bash, thout art unabashadly 'Un-American' (or ______ fill-in-the-blank)"
3."Yes, this kind of name-calling, too (in #2) is indeed bashing religious people. ('Tis no way to get around, tho, we've tried)"
4. "But, hey, we can get away with it. We not only don't hold ourselves to the same standards we pin upon others...(Hence, the title), but we're the favored elitist bashers 'round these parts...We're so good at it we bash and nobody seems to know it!"
5. "We, after all, have a license to bash religious posters as 'Un-American' (or ________ fill-in-the-blank)

Signed...Certain Sentimentalists

1,018 posted on 05/07/2012 1:55:52 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

If I may, you should add this to your list:
Who is more likely to shut down websites like Freerepublic?””

I made the same veiled reference to such an action. It is disheartening to see how so many freepers don’t get how evil a man Bo really is. Even Romney is a saint by comparison. To make the statement that romney is bo lite is simply beyond the pale. I don’t like most of romney’s record, but to suggest that he has the visceral hatred for America that Bo has is just not believeable.


1,019 posted on 05/07/2012 1:55:59 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: caww

Bookmark, good info


1,020 posted on 05/07/2012 1:56:39 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: buckleyfan
... I’m uncomfortable with the misplaced religious bickering...


1,021 posted on 05/07/2012 1:57:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Go back and reread the mockery, sarcasm, anger, arrogant belittling of others and emotional lack of control in your posts, Elsie.

As one who believes in the inerrancy of Scripture, as I do, I'm sure you can find plenty of references to where all of those things are sin.

I would suggest starting with Galatians 5:22 and going from there.

Peace, Brother. May God show us both the sin that still remains in us and turns us away from doing His will and reflecting His love and grace.

And may we BOTH understand what it truly means to 'defend the faith' and do it in His Love.

1,022 posted on 05/07/2012 1:57:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: itsahoot

Thanks for your answer, glad I was wrong about your intent.

In the last 24hrs I’ve been a DU plant, a fifth columnist, a delta troll (whatever in the hell that is) and every label unrepeatable including the ever populsr n00b, simply because I will not vote for...and I’m not even going to say his name.

I apologize. And I don’t like the reflexes FR is giving me lately.

This communist infiltrator is going to be laying down on the job. Taking a long break from politics.


1,023 posted on 05/07/2012 1:58:48 PM PDT by AnTiw1 (Men who stand firm against an army of thousands, run when a tiger appears among them. ~ShirKhan~)
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To: Osage Orange
ROFLOL!!....WOW...what a statement!! You and EF need to get a room.

Laugh all you want, and yes it is quite a statement and an accurate one at that, and no room is needed, he's right, and that is all there is to it.

Nobody here on this tread...that I've read is trying to win someone to Christ.

I didn't say win, I said no one is going to come to Christ via the brow beating that is visible here, if anything, the exact opposite will occur. There is a difference. What occurred in this thread is repulsive.

I generally see...people here warning others about false religions. ie: mormonism.

It isn't false to the people whose belief system it is, and if you don't like it, don't believe it and don't support it, that's fine, but you can keep that **** to yourself.

I figure that's your rub....though, and you call it, bigotry.

Yes, that is what I call it, bigotry, because that is what it is. People are free to believe as they choose to believe, so lay off of 'em.

1,024 posted on 05/07/2012 1:59:17 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ohioWfan

Thank you for validating my first point.


1,025 posted on 05/07/2012 2:01:30 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: buckleyfan
... and it appears a certain vocal minority is taking over FR.

Do ya long for the OLD days; when MORMONs were running rampant?

We Christians said: ENOUGH! and started confronting them.

Things were wooly there for a while, but we overcame them with "the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death."

Revelation 12:11


The world found that MORMONs are all bluff, and their heresy is indefensible.

They are reduced to name calling and bluster.

Even Headquarters told the rank and file not to pester it with questions!

1,026 posted on 05/07/2012 2:03:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
Just for the record, and to awaken you from your ignorance, reaganaut, Elsie most likely remembers me because he and I fought side by side, defending the Word and the Truth on many a Crevo thread a few years back.

Actually, I don't. I'm lucky to remember what I had for breakfast these days, and that was a LONG time ago.

(We are STILL on the same side, ohio; just doing it a bit differently.)

1,027 posted on 05/07/2012 2:05:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Seizethecarp

I’m still ticked. Sorry. NO truce.


1,028 posted on 05/07/2012 2:05:43 PM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: svcw
What point? That you can't read?

Try again. Your first 'point' was completely vacuous, absent of both substance and accuracy. (IOW, you were WRONG).

I'm sorry I even tried to help you out by explaining. Won't try again. Pointless. Bye. :)

1,029 posted on 05/07/2012 2:06:24 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: reaganaut
Frankly, I get tired of getting death threats from Mormons, just for speaking the truth...



1,030 posted on 05/07/2012 2:07:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
...getting death threats from Mormons...

Now THEM was some good times!

Invective!

Spittle!!

Animalistic Allusions!!!

1,031 posted on 05/07/2012 2:08:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
We are STILL on the same side, ohio; just doing it a bit differently.

I sure hope so. Not seeing it clearly on this thread.

(Though I used to enjoy being in the trenches with you fighting for the truth in Genesis and the importance of understanding the accuracy of Creation. However, it's been a lot of years and I don't miss the blood from some of those battles.....)

1,032 posted on 05/07/2012 2:11:09 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Neoliberalnot
" It is disheartening to see how so many freepers don’t get how evil a man Bo really is. Even Romney is a saint by comparison. To make the statement that romney is bo lite is simply beyond the pale. I don’t like most of romney’s record, but to suggest that he has the visceral hatred for America that Bo has is just not believeable."

A few points:

I don't think there's a single Freeper who doesn't get how evil Obama is. Not voting for Romney has zero to do with misconceptions about Obama. Personally, it makes me sick that I can't vote to get that ---blank----out.

No, Romney isn't a saint, not with the blood he has on his hands from enabling abortion, and the cozying up to homosexuals he likes to do. I don't care whether you vote for Romney or not, but let's not whitewash him in order to feel better about doing so.

I agree with you that Romney probably doesn't hate America like Obama does. But there are so many other insurmountable factors when it comes to voting for him.

1,033 posted on 05/07/2012 2:12:33 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: reaganaut
... THEM was some good times!

Mountain men!

Oracles!!

Defenders!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I

1,034 posted on 05/07/2012 2:12:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: FourtySeven

His religion is the least of Mitt’s problems. I’d vote for a Sikh, a Mormon, a Zoroastrian who shared our values and acted in accord. That ain’t Romney.
Who can be loyal to that? Who could be enthusiastic about that?


1,035 posted on 05/07/2012 2:13:12 PM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: Elsie

Interesting choice of cartoon. Does Romney offend you? Or do you find his beliefs, and those of Mormons, offensive?

Wait, don’t answer that - it’s been abundantly clear to anyone who happens upon, well, just about any of your posts, I would guess.

So does that make you a habitually offended individual? You are certainly a habitual spammer, I’m not the first to notice that.

So really, it’s actually a great cartoon!


1,036 posted on 05/07/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Loud Mime
As for me, I will vote for the Republican.

Most Mormons will (as long as there are no MORMON Democrats in the race)

1,037 posted on 05/07/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EnglishCon; eastforker; laotzu; reaganaut
If eastforker is an atheist, which I do not know nor care about, his “religion” is equally valid as mormonism, catholicism, baptist, anabaptist, anglican, shia, sunni, ba’hai, shinto, the various types of judaism and buddism .... got bored writing them so add any others you feel like.

You must be a proud holder of some liberal big-government campus degree with a few (or more) multi-cultural educators...who apparently taught you the error of...
...doctrinal equivalency...
...moral equivalency...
...truth equivalency...

Sorry, to break this to you: All doctrines, counterfeit doctrines, morals, legalistic excesses, & truths/falsehoods, are not created or derived "equal."

Otherwise...w/your corrupt interpretation of all this, the Hitler recognized Aryan "doctrine" of a "master race" would be just as defensible by you as any other...

Or the beliefs of a few 19th-century religionists (Mormon, some who claimed Christian, etc.) who embraced open racism would also be just as defensible by you.

Sorry. I won't make the same corrupt mistake of defending racism...or other doctrines (the Metropolitan community church teaches homosexuality & "same-sex" marriage as "doctrine")...just because of your non-sensical extension of a right to hold some belief somehow gives it 100% teflon status from any and all critiques!

Besides, you don't even practice this evenly on threads like this...

Based upon eyewitness testimony -- the same kind of testimony that's enough to send somebody to the gallows/electric chair -- Christians believe that the resurrection of Jesus was a "fact." Then Eastforker comes along this thread and inadvertently bashes the historical resurrection as "non-factual"...

He said, post #286: Since faith requires a belief based on someones words without evidence to back it up, it doesn ‘t make it a fact. since there is no factual information it can not be discussed logicaly, because logicaly, there are no facts.

Who says Christianity offers "no evidence" of the resurrection of Christ? (Not Christians). Hence, whereas Christians say such evidence exists...that these leads to the same as "facts" established in say, a trial...Eastforker has come on this thread to absolutely proclaim no such "evidence" or "facts" could possibly exist for the resurrection of Christ.

That is an attack upon Christianity; it ridicules the resurrection; and it bashes our belief in the resurrection as "news"...

Yet...what? No defense from you or Laotzu or others???

Why not? Is it because it's "OK" to target Christ and Christianity?

1,038 posted on 05/07/2012 2:15:17 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian; EnglishCon; reaganaut; buckleyfan; laotzu; eastforker; itsahoot
Wasn't the Scripture that EC posted.....specifically dealing with people that were judging other's while they were actually "doing, dealing with" the exact same things?

IOW, half of the Democrat Party pointing their fingers at some criminal that's lying, cheating, and stealing...when they are doing the EXACT same thing?

1,039 posted on 05/07/2012 2:15:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: EnglishCon
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitles them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in general Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name and by the authority of the good people of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliance, establish commerce, and do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

1,040 posted on 05/07/2012 2:16:09 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Colofornian

Let me retort with the generic message board rules.

Rule 0/ Don’t be a d*ck.
Rule 1/ Thou shall call posters on BS. Civilly if possible, but some are too dense to get it.
Rule 2/ Thou shall never invoke Godwins Law, no matter the temptation. It is a meme that should have retired decades ago.
Rule 3/ Thou shalt avoid name calling unless they are funny at the time. Special note - name calling should be avoided totally after the second drink, posting at all after the third.
Rule 4/ Thou shalt not pursue from thread to thread. That is just sad.
Rule 5/ Thy license to bash posters is granted on the clear understanding that you can and will be bashed back. Calling for reinforcements or mods will be taken as a sign of failure by onlookers.
Rule 6/ If thou art answered, it is customary to reply. A certain time is permitted to do so, depending on the time zone of the posters and how strict their parents are about bed time.

Heck I was bored :P


1,041 posted on 05/07/2012 2:16:21 PM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: EnglishCon
Because we cannot judge.

Uh...

Do you NOT know there are OTHER verses in the BIBLE that tell believers TO judge?

1,042 posted on 05/07/2012 2:17:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Osage Orange

The funny thing is “I can’t believe” I actually remembered the line about “a pack of lies”.

I’ve only been studying LDS for three years and I guess I’m able ge recall quite of what I’ve learned, sadly.

I’m just not buying the whinney duplicitous schtick anymore.

I did for 20 years but all it took was for one of them to use a sales technique I despise.

They 1st proclaimed get were the one true religion and then asked “You know that’s true, don’t you?”

That evening I opened the BOM and was finally curious about a”The Pearl of Great Price”.

It was then and there I discovered we were talking about completely different religions.

All it took was that statement and seeing their version of on of the great parables and the evidence was shown under the bright light of day.


1,043 posted on 05/07/2012 2:20:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: buckleyfan; Jim Robinson
But last time I checked, this isn’t a “Christian conversion” board.

Jim; you may need to clarify just what does pro-God mean...




As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America.

1,044 posted on 05/07/2012 2:23:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

De Nada bro.


1,045 posted on 05/07/2012 2:23:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I think next time I step up for you I’ll point it your acronym “LVR”.

Just occurred to me. LOL


1,046 posted on 05/07/2012 2:25:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: chris37; eastforker
Your whole post....may as well be written by a lawyer with the current A.G.'s office.

Your thought is the only thought.

You and you alone have final say.

You told me the following...

"and if you don't like it, don't believe it and don't support it, that's fine, but you can keep that **** to yourself."

And like I give a flip...you verbally threatened me too. Ha!! Great!!

You have a job waiting for you....with Eric Holder.

I'm glad you and EF are being exposed here.

1,047 posted on 05/07/2012 2:26:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Mountain Mary
Trying to CONTROL, guilt, shame or change the minds of others is where we lose it.

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
Titus 1:11
They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
Titus 2:1
You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
Titus 2:15
These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

1,048 posted on 05/07/2012 2:26:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie; Jim Robinson

Yes! Please do clarify.

Does “pro-God” mean that this is a Christian conversion website? Is the mission here to convert members to Christianity?

I don’t know Jim Robinson personally, but my guess is that he would be annoyed that you bothered him with such silliness. I know I sure would be.


1,049 posted on 05/07/2012 2:27:32 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Colofornian
FWIW-----------

McCarthy was right.

1,050 posted on 05/07/2012 2:28:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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