Skip to comments.Are you an ABO like me PO'd at JR for getting called a RINO? Truce declared! Please DONATE!
Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!
IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !
Under your analysis, I have no dog in the fight either way. I am looking for a candidate who would, if the opportunity came:
Get rid of most of the Federal Government’s useless departments and agencies, notably the DOE, HUD, BATFE, and some others;
Get rid of government handouts such as WIC, for example;
Remove Obamacare immediately;
Not spend more money than was brought in;
Propose a flat 8% income tax (God doesn’t ask for more than 10%; why should the government?)if there has to be such a thing- a protective tariff such as was in place prior to the Wilson administration would be even better still;
Reinstate the military’s ban on homosexuals even serving, as it was prior to Clinton.
Encourage and support the passage of a Federal marriage amendment because a society that wishes to survive cannot do so in a state of anarchy, either political or social.
Social conservatism and fiscal conservatism need not be incompatible.
I remember CLOWN POSSE or was it KLOWN POSSE. Then there was an organized gang of libertarian homosexuals ~ they were a riot. They're gone.
I saw that ... and thanks for the ping!
“A thing cant be demonized that already demonizes itself.”
“You came onto this thread angry, shrill, and screeching-clearly intending to start something. IMO, youre a malcontent who simply cannot tolerate a POV which disagrees with your own.”
You are too funny.
Will Jews go to heaven?
If you go to the link at the top of the thread you will see that all conservative FReepers are now being permitted to express a full range of views on how their conscience requires them to vote in November and why.
We conservatives are now being “permitted” to express our views?
Isn’t that special!
I donated to FR yesterday and it might be my last donation.
LOL... and I was trying to think of a cool way to say that I hoped that there were more girls at home like you ;^)
"Bully" is precisely the right word, Semper.
There have been people triple teaming to try to get good freepers banned, tattling, ridiculous name-calling, and all with no response from the Mods.
If it just happened to me I'd say "oh, well" and stay away for a while, but it happened to some of the most thoughtful long-term, proven conservatives, and it frankly made me think that the forum itself was done for.
I'm sorry, Seize, but donation under such a fragile truce (I was accosted just yesterday, and called "evil") isn't going to happen.
Like I said, I'm not a big time donor, and don't want to lose my posting privileges, and am as good (or bad) as anyone in getting into spitting matches, but it's going to take some time to see if the truce is a reality.
How about Henry VIII? Would you tell people to beware of George Washington because he belonged to the sect started by him?
The MA legislature couldn't do it, so the ruling took effect. As Governor, Romney could not overrule the Supreme Ct.
In their complaint the plaintiffs request only a declaration that their exclusion and the exclusion of other qualified same-sex couples from access to civil marriage violates Massachusetts law. We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution. We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion. See, e.g., Michaud v. Sheriff of Essex County, 390 Mass. 523 , 535-536 (1983).
(From the original ruling, concurred by the Supreme Ct.)
The State was a party to the suit (State Department of Public Health), Romney as Governor was certainly bound by the decision.
The MA Supreme Court had the authority to rule on this, the USSC refused to hear it and let it stand. Unfortunately, God's law didn't count in this matter.
There was no specific order to anyone, but the ruling stated clearly that gay marriage could not remain illegal.
That entire post is simply obfuscation and "the definition of what is is".
Romney simply enforced the Supreme Court ruling, as he should have. He did, in fact, fight it as long as he could.
The blame for gay marriage rests solely with the court....
Sorry, not interested. Bait someone else. My statement stands as is.
Did it ever occurr to you that might be a problem. Maybe a little more speaking for yourself and less speaking for others would help. Save the speaking for trees and dogs to liberals.
You can worship just as freely as you wish. Not trying to stop you.
But why do you allow threads to be posted for no other reason but to trash and demonize what others might hold sacred? And you very well know who the crowd is that I am refering to. They do it 24/7 and have been doing so for years, not just lately.
I fully understand your position. When it became obvious that Romney was going to be the GOP candidate my opinion was I’d rather have my enemy in front of me, where I know what he is going to do so I can prepare for it - instead of having my enemy behind me, stabbing me in the back every other day. If we can not change the tide with someone as despicable as Obama in the White House then when will we? When we have a less reprehensible Democrat in office?
After much thought and reflection, I still feel this way but I also understand that not voting or voting 2nd party or worse, voting for Obama assures the destruction of this country.
I will not continue helping Obama and progressives destroy all that works, is good, patriotic and exceptional about the United States.
I will also not slam those who would rather spit nails than cast a vote for Romney - I understand this, fully.
In the end though, I know when I’m standing in the voting booth, I will end up voting for Romney; not because I support him, agree with him, or believe his record is that much better or different than the “wons”. I have to consider Supreme Court picks, I have to consider coat-tails, I have to consider Romney if nothing else, understands capitalism and why it is above and beyond the most successful economic policy that has every existed and ever will.
Yes, I’ll hold my nose, choke down the vomit and circle the bubble in for Romney. I can only pray he brings in other Republicans into the Senate allowing us to take it. I pray his coat-tails will be big enough so we keep the House. I pray his supreme court picks will not include such vulgar, disgusting, anti-American jurists as Kagen and Sotomayor (who, admittingly has surprised me).
If nothing else, I will know I have not help put Obama into office for four more years - and in the end, that would be worse for this nation than anything a huge RINO like Romney could or would do to this nation.
That a truce has been called on FR, finally, is good. Face facts people Romney, whether we like it or not, is the candidate. We either have four more years of Obama or him. Those are our choice.
Nobody says we have to get on the Romney bandwagon and shouts his praises from the rooftops. Nobody is saying we have to even like the guy (I don’t), nobody says we can’t debate where his weaknesses are. Simply put, we either come together, not in support of Romney, but as Conservatives and make sure we do all we can to remove Obama and his fellow progressives out of office AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
FR is one way of doing this - it also allows us to pass along other ways of helping accomplish this goal.
This is it people, we have four years to turn our country back into the United States or get ready to surrender or go to war (figuratively not literally). I refuse to surrender.
What on EARTH does homosexuality have to do with housing and credit??????? Show me ONE person who has been discriminated against with respect to a loan or a house because they were homosexual?
And support for homosexuals serving openly in the military...No. Can't do it. I was trying to find a vice powerful enough to hold my nose, but that makes the point moot to me. I am going to have to find some other way to exercise my rights as a citizen than voting for Mitt Romney.
I won't demonize anyone who does. I think it is a personal choice. But presented as it was in this passage above, I can't do it. I cannot pull the lever for him.
Astonishing ... you were one of the last freepers I would have thought would whine political correctness to try and squelch others.
"Why don't you just go ahead and list these religious bigots that you say live here. While you're at it...give us some examples of this bigotry.
So I guess...from your point of view, all religions are equal in your eyes. Muslims, Christians, Hindu's, Satanists, J.W.'s, Buddists, Mormons, etc...etc........all the same!!"
You are posting in a public forum, and I provided you with exactly what you where asking for, so why don't you LEARN TO DEAL WITH REALITY, and LEARN TO SEND PRIVATE MAIL, k thx.
Your unwillingness to tell the truth about something so important will definitely earn you your Romney Republican merit badge.
Shoot, it might even earn you a paying gig.
Why do you ask?
LOL thank you, AnTiw1.
ROFLOL!! Nice play, chump.
Political correctness has nothing to do with it. It is what YOU and YOUR crew of evengelical covenant try to force down everyones throat completely unchecked 24/7. You want to talk about how you believe? Fine! Start a thread on that without having to trash what someone else might find to be sacred to them. You happen to be one of those holierthanthough I was speaking of earlier.
I really don't want to see any Freepers removed other than the obvious trolls. Heck people with differing opinions make me constantly re-examine mine and learning something is half the fun of Him giving me another day on this side of the grass. Stay well, and stay around please.
That would be CINO.
Voting for Romney would be CINO.
When it comes to the anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic and anti-atheist threads here, one thing you never have to worry about is missing the message due to excessive subtlety.........
I'm guessing they didn't teach about co-equal branches, or separation of powers, or enumerated powers, or checks and balances, in Romney Republican training classes, eh?
Perhaps the professors were the same Republican lawyers who were advising Romney when he was governor?
But, in any case, Romney did not have to "overrule the Supreme Ct."
All he had to do to check this lawless liberal court was to DO NOTHING, just like the legislature had already done.
And there isn't a thing in the world the court could have done about it.
But no. Romney abused his power, violated his state's constitution, and made up a lawless "law" of his own. One that is in gross violation of the natural law. And one that has helped push the homosexual agenda forward across the land.
And now he, and his henchmen, lie, and lie, and lie, about it.
What it is is the reality of the situation.
Why don’t you call me some more names while you’re at it, Mr. Robinson?
Well that hardly at all is a truce making statement... and you then wonder why people defend their stance against such nonsense as you've just so rudely made.
Therefore I will continue to make statements as I see fit to expose your hypocrisy's....this statement being one of them.
I was forced to be an ABO because the candidate I supported didn’t make it to the finish line. I will be visiting the link because the truce is the right thing to do and maybe in the meantime we can drag Romney to our side.
I proposed a truce among the conservative posters on FR. There is nothing to be gained by our grassroots coalition ripping itself apart. We’re going to need each other more than ever after the election regardless of which liberal progressive is elected. I made no instructions to the moderators. We are all pro-Life, pro-Liberty pro-small government, self-governing, responsible adult conservatives here. We shouldn’t need nannies to force us to behave ourselves.
Now, the Mormons, they are paying a price for everything (pro and con) going on the net. But I'm not part of that debate at all ~ some of my ancestors were actually kicked out of what became the LDS ~ for all the generations.
In the old world you would be Laz of the Mataz.
If you continue posting like a chump, I most definitely will. Push too hard, you’ll see the door.
Romney was at the very bottom.
Like RUSH said : anyone on that stage could do a better job of running the country.
And my answer is simple: compared to Barack Obama?
You know this is not a choice between Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan.
This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.. Newt Gingrich
The problem with dwelling on the hypocrisy of others is you might arrive at Mohammad's conclusion of 'Kill the Hypocrites'.
I say leave the concern over hypocrisy to the Leftwingtards. They dwell on it incessantly and imagine that we should be making public policy lest we seen, by someone, to be a hypocrite.
Frankly, I don't care if you or someone thinks someone is hypocritical ~ that's just an hallucination.
And I’m guessing that’s what you’re really after. Self-immolation, martyrdom, etc. You’ll be a great hero to your chums when you post your grand opus.
At the side of the page is a scroll bar which comes in very handy when you are not interested in getting your feathers ruffled....I would suggest you make it your friend, then you will have regained your strength instead of "getting tired". It really doesn't take anything more than the use of your mouse....and won't exert you in the slightest.
Mine too.... that's a list I'd be proud to afix my name to.
Well, Mitt Romney would without a doubt be the most radical leftist president in Republican history (or at least in our lifetimes) so I guess there’s a high point there for someone.
Can you believe it!...the poster announces Jim’s truce then in the same breath spews their insults. Sounds like they are still thinking this is all about them.
Well noob, I have been here for some time now, so I like to see whats going on here.Anti-mormon threads are not always posted as a religion thread and as far as I am concerned it’s everybodys business what goes on here.And yup, you are another one of those holierthanthough posters.
My statement stands as is. Don’t read the threads you don’t like.
I noticed that. In the same thread and sometimes in the same post.
Fair eanough Jim, now you know why everything is down, I just thought I would enlighten ya about it. Continue on,but, there is more to conservatism than bashing other religions that may not be up to par in your views.
We are SO screwed this election cycle.
Unless romney gets run out of the convention and we nominate someone else, which would be justice...
There is no difference between Romney and Barry's agenda's...they both will assume control...and has nothing to do with the voter except to extract revenues from to support those agenda's....and you're vote to make it possible.
I am voting against them both ....
Rule of thumb...."if the choice is between two evils...vote against evil"....regardless of what colors they choose to deceive with.
Shut up talking about what people are being told to shut up talking about.
1. Ignore the anklebiters.
2. Can I get a ride to tonights Devil Worship Mass?