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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 ^ | May 6, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!

IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !


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To: CatherineofAragon

That post had nothing to do with Jews.

Linking a post about the Mormon religion with Jewish folks makes no sense.

The post has to do with a religion you feel is not Christian and whose members shall not be allowed entry into Heavan.

Will other non Christians also be denied entry into Heaven?

Such as Jews in Isreal and around the world?


451 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

That post had nothing to do with Jews.

Linking a post about the Mormon religion with Jewish folks makes no sense.

The post has to do with a religion you feel is not Christian and whose members shall not be allowed entry into Heavan.

Will other non Christians also be denied entry into Heaven?

Such as Jews in Isreal and around the world?


452 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
No, the Rich Man is not immediately judged. That happens much later in time. Until then he's just there ~ somewhere ~ no Heaven until the definitive Final Judgment.

RIght?

Now, regarding your statement "It is clear we only get one life, no reincarnation" we do get eternal life after some degree of rigamarole. Isn't that Jesus' promise?

Antecedent to that we get one life, but there's actually not a lot of discussion on that matter in the Bible ~ a few statements here and there ~ some threats ~ it's pretty barebones stuff and very consistent with Middle Eastern religions, if not older Indo-European religions (warriors die and go to the elysian fields, heros cross the byfrost bridge into eternal combat under the close watch of the gods, that sort of thing with the Greeks and Persians).

Jesus told the thief "You are in Paradise this very day". Hmm. Elsewhere John of Revelation tells us all about that ~ dead in the earth waiting ~ no instant trip to Paradise.

453 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CatherineofAragon

Irritable? Nope. Just pointing out the facts, ma’am. Go bait someone else. I won’t be your huckleberry.


454 posted on 05/06/2012 5:41:18 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz; eastforker

Why are you copying me? I ceased posting a long time ago.

I do see a lot of vile hateful comments which continue to be posted.


455 posted on 05/06/2012 5:43:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dalereed
If jackasses like you keep up your one letter abbreviations I'm going to cancel my $35/month donation


456 posted on 05/06/2012 5:43:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: driftdiver

Sorry. I did see you upthread. If you stopped, and you have, good on you.


457 posted on 05/06/2012 5:45:18 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m your huckleberry. That’s JUST my game.


458 posted on 05/06/2012 5:46:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: swpa_mom

In my opinion Romney is a politicians politician. As such he will follow the wind to get what his major supporters want. The key is to find an angle on him and get the right people in the Cabinet.


459 posted on 05/06/2012 5:47:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: eastforker

Again: I know you to be a good and mature man. Lead by example. Swallow some garbage comments, and let it go — and don’t be provoked on other threads


460 posted on 05/06/2012 5:48:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: eastforker

Maybe I should have pinged you to this post of mine too: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2880528/posts?page=61#61

Just some friendly advice FRiend. You’re not going to get very far here on FR with calls to censor religious criticism, even insult, trust me on that. (again, even I disagree with such a request, as much as I’d like to see it personally, I do recognize such sentiments only eventually threaten my ability to express opinion. )

It’s just going to give you frustration. Let me also repeat as I said elsewhere, “You’ll never be able to get the last word on the bigots here, NEVER.”. Proof of that is the evident ignorance of what religious bigotry is, on the part of some.

Just take “comfort” in the fact it’s always the same group of people fueling the majority of the religious friction around here. You surely have better use for your time than giving attention to the same group of unreasonably intolerant people, don’t you?

< /comments to this thread >


461 posted on 05/06/2012 5:49:20 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dagogo redux
Pretty good rendering of the structure.

You can see why it's not appended to Christianity but instead the most that has been done is to tie it into Hindu views ~ which themselves are tied into some more ancient views involving, lo and behold, Noah, and quite possibly the more modern Jonah (a contemporary with Buddha).

Pure Land does have its Christian element ~ and that might be much more overt than is generally recognized.

Now, for the big time. The Jains teach ahemsa. I can point to a number of Christian saints who not only taught ahemsa they made claims of 20 brothers, wore a single cloth as a garment, slept outside on the ground and ate only food donated to them by others.

Which really raises some great questions about the transport of religious concepts from one end of the Earth to the other in ancient times.

I rather admire the bravery of those medieval Jains. Imagine walking to Europe to pass on a correct point of view only to find them all too willing to accept you as a Christian holy man and give you high honors. Must have been startling.

462 posted on 05/06/2012 5:51:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: humblegunner
"I think that every conservative who gives a damn about this country needs to get off their ass and get to Tampa for the convention. We need to raise such an historic ruckus, that the delegates back away from nominating this POS for president."

I don't think that sounds too realistic, and frankly kind of like the fantasy "draft Palin" nonsense I've seen.

It's dramatic but I can't see it happening.

Humble, if our side has lost the will to do 'dramatic' things in the defense of everything we hold dear, then we have already stood down, and have surrendered our country to the Commies.

I refuse to believe that we've surrendered yet.

I and others are issuing a Call To Arms. It's my hope that a million patriots will answer it, and appear at the convention in Tampa to stop this travesty.

463 posted on 05/06/2012 5:51:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Two million people marching won’t result in much. You have to threaten their power base in order to get their attention.

They don’t pay much attention to the peasants.


464 posted on 05/06/2012 5:54:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Seizethecarp

I’m hoping, in the future, the Wikipedia entry for “Circular Firing Squad” doesn’t include a link to Free Republic.


465 posted on 05/06/2012 5:54:46 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Jim Robinson
I could be rich if I’d just take the easy path, kowtow to the company line and go along to get along. But then, this is Free Republic!! We ARE the resistance!! Resisting tyranny is not necessarily the popular way, but is the right thing to do.

Thank you Mr. Jim....for not taking the easiest path, though you could have.

..."It always looks so easy to solve problems by taking the path of least resistance. What looks like the easy road turns out to be The Hardest and Most Cruel".....

--Winston Churchill

466 posted on 05/06/2012 5:55:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: trisham
This is insane.

This ain't insane. This (pulls out Laz's brain) is INSANE.


467 posted on 05/06/2012 5:56:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: muawiyah

Reincarnation is not eternal life in the sense Jesus or any Christian talks about their resurrection. We do not come back as a different person living a separate life from the past person we were.


468 posted on 05/06/2012 6:01:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: swpa_mom
Not to sink that boat, but abortion rates everywhere dropped.

There's been a demographic change ~ folks who think abortion is perfectly acceptable had a precipitous decline in their reproductive rates (which always happens when you kill your young ones).

The remaining folks had always had a higher birth rate since (and if you don't kill your young ones, that'll always happen)

We discussed that phenomenon many times. In fact the currently historically high rate of out of wedlock births may also be attributed to this change ~ in that people who like babies probably aren't all that worried about marriage as we might otherwise imagine.

This same demographic change is reflected in a major change in public opinion regarding abortion. We now have many fewer people who support it and a far greater number who oppose it.

Leftwingtard ranks are also declining and the population is, in general, over decades, becoming far more Conservative.

The abortionists did this ~ they killed their heirs. In the end we will dispose of them as well.

469 posted on 05/06/2012 6:01:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NoLibZone
"Agian based on your perceptions it’s only a gotcha question because you can’t answer it."

But I don't need to answer it, do I, NLZ? You're not stupid. You're not ignorant of Christian beliefs. You're playing games. But you're going to have to play them alone.

470 posted on 05/06/2012 6:02:39 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Windflier
OK, stipulating the rest...

We need to force them to choose an honest conservative

Who would that be specifically?

471 posted on 05/06/2012 6:02:57 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Secret Agent Man
Except that there's neither male nor female, right?

You want to know about "different person", there it is.

Except you'd probably consider it close to studying witchcraft I"d recommend you just read through the general beliefs about reincarnation among hindus (for example, they're big on this and have some very complex discussions of the matter) and reflect on what Christianity really tells you about RESURRECTION.

472 posted on 05/06/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: reaganaut

Both you and your Mom left Mormansism? Now you sit around laughing with sanctimonious superiority at those who don’t share your hate for the faith?


473 posted on 05/06/2012 6:04:50 PM PDT by fml
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To: NoLibZone

You are caught up in contemporary labels.

Messianic Jews are believers in Christ as Messiah (Savior).

Christians are believers in Jesus Christ as our Savior and Lord as well.

They are both believers in Christ. Believers in Christ will be in heaven on account of their belief in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

Messianic Jews are still believers - they still follow Jewish worship service rituals, not any Christian denominational worship services. Some are the same, some holidays are the same, both sing, read from parts of the bible.

What is your specific hangup here?


474 posted on 05/06/2012 6:05:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: driftdiver
Two million people marching won’t result in much. You have to threaten their power base in order to get their attention.

You think I'm talking about the same kind of Tea Party rallies we've had before? Guess again. Time to step it up until we find the notch that causes them to step back.

Soap Box - ineffective
Ballot Box - FUBAR
Tool Box - open it up and grab a pry bar and a hammer
Cartridge Box - closed until every last civil effort has been exhausted

475 posted on 05/06/2012 6:05:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lazamataz

This thread is a good example of why conservatives are losing around the world. Its extraordinarily easy to divide conservatives. Many times we’ll do it to ourselves but the lefties are always happy to sit back and watch.

People seem to forget that children who’ve never heard of conservative concepts will accept big govt as being the answer. Its a far easier sell than individual responsibility.

Especially with the way conservatives treat those who don’t walk lock step with the myriad of agendas out there.

Not that it matters, with a socialist winning in France their economy is sure to fail, taking Europes with it.


476 posted on 05/06/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Seizethecarp
The GOP is now a pro-choice party and will fail like the Whigs.
477 posted on 05/06/2012 6:06:15 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: driftdiver

We’re screwed.


478 posted on 05/06/2012 6:06:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Windflier

Anytime someone starts with “you think” I know to stop reading.


479 posted on 05/06/2012 6:07:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well you know, I really appreciate what you have told me in this regard, and even though I have stated that I believe in reincarnation, I have also come across something recently that leads me to believe that one life may well indeed be the case.

It appears that I do not have the answer to this question at this time, and based upon my strong belief in Jesus Christ, I must seek that answer in the Bible, and so I will do that.


480 posted on 05/06/2012 6:08:39 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: humblegunner
OK, stipulating the rest...

"We need to force them to choose an honest conservative"

Who would that be specifically?

We've got from now until August to sort that out amongst us. Personally, I'm good with Newt.

481 posted on 05/06/2012 6:08:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

LDS Church Salt Lake City
“A thing can’t be demonized that already demonizes itself.”- CatherineofAragon
482 posted on 05/06/2012 6:10:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: driftdiver
Anytime someone starts with “you think” I know to stop reading.

It was more of a question than anything, but fine. Shut me right off.

483 posted on 05/06/2012 6:12:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NoLibZone

I read your last question again, I already answered this. I don’t know why you keep laboring on the point. There is no special reasons or rules for any group of people to get into heaven any other way than the one way open to ALL peoples.

And quite frankly, it’s the same reason the OT Jews who trusted in God’s promise to them He would send them a Savior, a kinsmen reedemer, a messiah. The Jews that believed God’s promise regarding His plans for their salvation were saved the same way we are today, they were just on the other side of the cross than we are.


484 posted on 05/06/2012 6:12:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t wear glasses and I woldn’t put a hat on my head if you put a gun to my head!


485 posted on 05/06/2012 6:12:30 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Seizethecarp

In light of the truce, I asked Jim R to please allow me to rescind my opus, and restore my posting privileges. It seems he was gracious enough to do that. The truce was a good step in the right direction. It takes a big man to change direction, and frankly I thought Jim Rob’s opposition to Romney was so great that Jim would never back off one bit.

So let’s celebrate something positive and not be too negative. I don’t think religion was the big issue in this blow up, it was all about the hatred of either Obama or Romney, or both.

At the moment I’m grateful for both the truce and my reinstatement, and want to focus on defeating Obama.


486 posted on 05/06/2012 6:12:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: muawiyah; Secret Agent Man

This is also something is hard for me to understand.

I know that the dead are here. I’m not sure if they are all here, but some of them are. I know this because I have seen them, and I have touched a ghost with my hand as well.

I also know a very upstanding young lady whom my grandmother loved very much, and this young lady has both seen and spoken with the ghost of my grandmother who has been dead for twelve years.


487 posted on 05/06/2012 6:13:44 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: NoLibZone

Are you reflecting on the Star of David in the window??


488 posted on 05/06/2012 6:14:00 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Honey, coming in here snarling, and then trying to pull the victim card as though I’m baiting YOU, doesn’t wash. Understand?

I don’t know you from Adam, and I haven’t spoken to you before. But maybe the next time we meet here, we can interact civilly with each other.


489 posted on 05/06/2012 6:14:31 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Third Person; eastforker

“The word “bigot” (among many other words) has seemingly become the exclusive property of the disingenuous left. Interesting, isn’t it?”

Add the endless Jew-baiting straight from the Aryan Nations website...

But if he has an “R” next to his name, we aren’t allowed to question...y’knowhaddImean?


490 posted on 05/06/2012 6:15:38 PM PDT by AnTiw1 (Men who stand firm against an army of thousands, run when a tiger appears among them. ~ShirKhan~)
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To: Windflier
You think I'm talking about the same kind of Tea Party rallies we've had before? Guess again. Time to step it up until we find the notch that causes them to step back.

Soap Box - ineffective

Ballot Box - FUBAR

Tool Box - open it up and grab a pry bar and a hammer

Cartridge Box - closed until every last civil effort has been exhausted

Oh stop it with that nonsense, you sound utterly ridiculous. You aren't going to do squat down in Tampa - not with a tool box, cartridge box or any other "notch" that you're alluding to.

491 posted on 05/06/2012 6:18:30 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: AnTiw1

Like I said earlier NOOB, go lay down, you ain’t runnin nothin!


492 posted on 05/06/2012 6:18:38 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: fml

My mother was never Mormon. And she was laughing at EF’s hypocrisy.


493 posted on 05/06/2012 6:19:41 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Longbow1969
Oh stop it with that nonsense, you sound utterly ridiculous. You aren't going to do squat down in Tampa - not with a tool box, cartridge box or any other "notch" that you're alluding to.

Methinks thou art projecting. It's you who aren't going to do a damn thing to try and stop the wholesale theft and destruction of your country.

Speak for yourself.

494 posted on 05/06/2012 6:23:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: reaganaut

Oh please, my ears are burning, you should have pinged me if your gonna talk about me, please explain this hypocrisy??


495 posted on 05/06/2012 6:23:39 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“There is no special reasons or rules for any group of people to get into heaven any other way than the one way open to ALL peoples.”

And that one way is to become a Christian?


496 posted on 05/06/2012 6:23:39 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry, Bachman : I trust their judgment on 2012 pick.)
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To: swpa_mom

No, thank you!

It’s why I post...to inform people of the truth of matters to the best of my ability. I don’t like spin, half truths, misquotes, things taken out of context...that’s what libs do.

Romney is not a conservative, but he’s not the monster many would wish you to believe he is.

In any metric, he is a far better choice than Obama.


497 posted on 05/06/2012 6:25:32 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: reaganaut

Which is not hell, but more of a place for souls to wait until the day that the Lord’s kingdom comes to earth.

There is no punishment in it.


498 posted on 05/06/2012 6:26:22 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: NoLibZone

What!!! No Jews in heaven??? Is that why you posted a pic of the Star of David when refering to evil???


499 posted on 05/06/2012 6:27:51 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: reaganaut
Meh, I call b.s. on your whole pretense.

Carry on

500 posted on 05/06/2012 6:28:06 PM PDT by fml
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