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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 ^ | May 6, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!

IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !


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To: metmom

I know. I didn’t write the Bible, I’m just quoting it (and defending it).

Sigh...


951 posted on 05/07/2012 10:19:20 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: muawiyah
…the Peace of Westphalia and that made religious hate a private matter

Actually the Peace of Westphalia arranged truce between Lutherans and Roman Catholics but left other sects such as the Anabaptists unprotected and subject to vicious oppression resulting in a substantial migration of the German Anabaptists, Mennonites, Amish etc to Pennsylvania and down into Virginia beginning at the turn of the 18th century.

Many of them followed the same path as the Pilgrims had a century earlier seeking refuge first in Holland and then going on to the New World.


952 posted on 05/07/2012 10:23:50 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: chris37

“Where is the anger in that? How is he being shrill?”

Well, usually when someone starts off by calling people bigots who are spewing hatred, it sounds a bit shrill and angry. Maybe that’s just me.


953 posted on 05/07/2012 10:37:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nathanbedford
Wasn't a century earlier ~ the crowd that founded Plymouth arrived about 1620, and the King of England was already taking on board more than his fair share of French Protestants, and then Anabaptists, et al ~ and they, in turn, had done a bit of internal immigration before then.

The period you are thinking of as 100 years long was this side of 50 years. Once the Swedes (The Great Protector of the North) were pinned down some Protestants found themselves in dispute with their Catholic nobles, but it was with their own nobles in their own countries, not kings elsewhere.

Remember, this went both ways ~ and plenty of Catholics found themselves under German nobles.

The Pope signed, but as a terrestrial ruler. All the other rulers signed as terrestrial rulers as well. I've looked over those pages of signatures ~ trying to figure out who each one was in reality.

Little did they know they were become famous for the ages.

A note ~ I've been working my way through the history of the Carpathians. These mountains end as a distinct geographic region right at the lip of the great crater that deines Bohemia, so, in effect, the political region (the ridge line) runs from France (if you count the Alps as part of the region) to Ukraine. Right smack in the middle of this thousand mile long line East to West, are the great silver mines where the Thaler was developed as a leading European currency.

One of the first actions of the Swedes even before the 30 years war was to move mining companies South into these mountains to see if there was more stuff and there was. There still is. The Czar actually cleared the population out of the Carpathians and replaced the people with Kossacks,.

954 posted on 05/07/2012 10:39:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: eastforker

CatherineofAragon
Since Oct 25, 2011


955 posted on 05/07/2012 10:59:24 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: FourtySeven

You are brilliant.


956 posted on 05/07/2012 11:04:09 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: AnTiw1
“I am really tired of hearing the hatred spewed concerning other beliefs if different than some of these bigots.”

Some one need to start a "Muslims for Peace" thread. Oh never mind a two people ping list probably wouldn’t get many readers.

957 posted on 05/07/2012 11:10:07 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the (R))
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To: ohioWfan; buckleyfan; Elsie
I have no idea what you were trying to do with that post, but it came across as muddled and strange. And kinda pointless, I think.........but I'm not sure....... Perhaps you can reword it so it makes sense?

Elsie responded to a reference about being fanatical.

You responded to Elz about that brief reference, calling such fanaticism "unChristlike...behavior."

I responded to you...essentially offering a sarcastic commentary as to why are only "faith-based" "fans" called out for being fanatical, whereas in sports it's only accepted but commended! [To the degree that Ohio winds up building some of the biggest stadiums anywhere]

If it's fanaticism per se that bothers you, then just start harping on all fans -- sports-based as well as faith-based...don't start just singling out the latter...

958 posted on 05/07/2012 11:10:12 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: buckleyfan; ohioWfan
Hey Colo: her name is “ohioWfan” - for George W, get it?? It isn’t about being a sports fan. Some of us know and can remember that.

(Yeah, that's why OhioWfan not only knew what place the Indians were in, but was sure to mention it..."last I checked, the Indians were in first place in their division. So there! ;*" Oh, and btw, in case you didn't know...even posters in our sports-mad culture tend to be able to identify with sports analogies)

959 posted on 05/07/2012 11:17:46 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Boogieman; eastforker

I’d call it being right. That’s what bigots do.

Eastforker’s point was proven by the contents of this thread quite possibly better than any other point ever proven in the entire recorded history of points proven.

Americans are free to believe as they choose. A person’s relationship with the Lord is theirs, and if they have no relationship, then that is also theirs, and it is no one else’s business but theirs.

No one is going to come to Christ via the brow beating that is visible here, if anything, the exact opposite will occur.


960 posted on 05/07/2012 11:21:41 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: EnglishCon

Of course. And I am going to vote for POTUS too.

Working on helping get conservatives elected to office elsewhere. That’s my contribution.

Watch Mourdock/Lugar race tomorrow. Tea Party vs GOP-E.


961 posted on 05/07/2012 11:28:30 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: dragonblustar
I'm sure you're not but others have been living in that cult and have gotten out and shared their experiences which you ridicule. If you want to be apathetic and ignorant towards Mormonism, fine but don't then try to defend this cult it against people who either lived it or have studied it.

Oh the drama. My word, you mean I missed some gut wretching mind blowing awful life some here have escaped only to be lucky to be alive and share the horrid facts about the abused they suffered? Pfffft

The truth is I know everything I need to know, and they are not threatening anyone's way of life. The bible thumping creeps here feel threatened by something they claim cannot touch them. It's ugly and casts all conservatives in a bad light.

962 posted on 05/07/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by fml
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To: Mountain Mary

That race isn’t going to get a quarter inch squib on page 96 here - if a good thread is running on it can you ping me please?


963 posted on 05/07/2012 11:31:51 AM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: swpa_mom
I would like to offer my sincere THANK YOU for posting all of this. Shame on me for not researching this before now, I relied upon the good conservatives here and elsewhere, telling me that Romney was this or that, that Romney was pushing abortion and gay marriage.

Considering it was total B$, just how did it help you. Good grief read the replies to that post, it is completely debunked propaganda that Romney has been using to try and hide the true Mitt. Facts are such annoying things. The shame is you did not research it.

964 posted on 05/07/2012 11:33:22 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: Seizethecarp

I don’t think I have seen a single freeper that selected Romney as their first choice. I am a Newt Supporter, but to answer your question, let me make further comparisons between Romney and the Kenyan by asking you to consider the following questions:

Which candidate has a deep-seated, visceral hatred for America?

Which candidate has a similar hatred for White Americans?

Which candidate is not just a supporter of “gays”, but has exhibited such deviant behavior?

Which candidate is a closet Muslim?

Which candidate supports Muslim operations around the world?

Which candidate has a spouse that shares the same hatred?

Which candidate most hates free enterprise?

Which candidate has assigned his incompetent attorney general to attack the US citizens of Arizona for seeking to defend their borders against foreign criminals?

Which candidate has actually earned much of his way to the top of his field and which has had everything delivered in his lap because of his race?

Which candidate allies himself with marxist pigs, known terrorists, and open racists?

And finally, and most importantly, which candidate has a corrupt old media on his side and has a well-planned plot to divide his opposition by making sure his opponents split their ticket, thereby assuring his second term?

I will not fall for this demRAT-trap.


965 posted on 05/07/2012 11:36:29 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: itsahoot; Admin Moderator
“I am really tired of hearing the hatred spewed concerning other beliefs if different than some of these bigots.”

The poster of #957 ascribes the previous sentence as coming from me. I did not write this. ~A.~

"Some one need to start a "Muslims for Peace" thread. Oh never mind a two people ping list probably wouldn’t get many readers."

For whatever reason, the poster has tried to impress readers my position is 180 degrees from what it actually is.

FAIL.

966 posted on 05/07/2012 11:40:38 AM PDT by AnTiw1 (Men who stand firm against an army of thousands, run when a tiger appears among them. ~ShirKhan~)
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To: buckleyfan; reaganaut
Good point, I was wondering why God would call on someone to be so rude.

Does anyone get to use that excuse?

967 posted on 05/07/2012 11:43:15 AM PDT by fml
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To: eastforker
it is the holier than though attitude from the bigots that offend me.

Unlike your own bigotry, which apparently is attitude free.

968 posted on 05/07/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: Longbow1969
Classic big talking keyboard commando making veiled threats that will never materialize. You're not leading or joining any mass protest in Tampa to disrupt the convention

Take a long walk off a short pier, coward.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

969 posted on 05/07/2012 11:45:17 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FourtySeven
Either Jesus is the Savior, or He isn't. Either the Bible has given us an account of His Empty Tomb or it doesn't. If not then just make up your own version and that is OK with you? If so how would you feel about making up a new Constitution?

People can worship dog dung as far as I am concerned, but I sure don't want them in the White House.

970 posted on 05/07/2012 11:53:34 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: eastforker
My suggestion would be a policy of no bashing of any religion

How about religions made up by pedophiles, they OK too?

971 posted on 05/07/2012 11:55:52 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: svcw
People who through reason are not voting for that liberal called Romney are not demonic they are people who are tired of voting again for another liberal with a R by their name.

I never said, nor thought anything remotely like that.

I suggest that you put away your vivid imagination and start chewing on reality.

That's all I'm going to say to you.

(Other than also suggesting that you take a course in remedial reading and/or critical thinking skills).

972 posted on 05/07/2012 12:00:57 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Colofornian
Have you ever studied the series, "Not a Fan," Colo?

It's about getting deeper and being a follower of Jesus Christ, and not just 'fanatic.'

There's a difference between arrogant anger and being a disciple of Christ. There's a difference between sharing Christ, and brow beating everyone who doesn't agree with your personal feelings.

Most true followers of Jesus Christ understand that difference.

btw, I didn't 'single out' anything. I was talking about religious threads in general and their contentious, irrational anger devoid of critical thought and true spirituality.

I don't go there. I stick with politics here, and devote myself to Christ in His Holy Word and in prayer, the fellowship of Believers and ministry.

Does that aid your confusion and grossly misplaced sarcasm?

973 posted on 05/07/2012 12:08:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: swpa_mom
I had not read (and once again, that is MY fault) that Romney was following the courts in all of this.

Don't blame anyone but yourself for ignoring the information I linked for you that contradicts that. He did not follow the courts. Under our system of government the governor is fully independent from the judiciary and is under no legal compulsion to enforce any judicial decision. Particularly an un-Constitutional decision that the legislature has not made law. The legislature does have the sole authority to write laws in our republic does it not?

974 posted on 05/07/2012 12:08:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Elsie

I really don’t think dems crossed over into our primaries. I think we collectively insulted,berated and told those not voting for “our” conservative that they were rinos or dumb. The firing squad worked. Anyone complaining now needs to just look at themselves. We either vote out obama or suffer the consequences. The party will not be taught a lesson, we should have learned that from 2008


975 posted on 05/07/2012 12:09:56 PM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: Seizethecarp
I will vote for the candidate who will do the LEAST DAMAGE to what is left of my precious Republic!

My contention is that Romney will completely destroy the Conservative wing of the republican party, then it won't really matter whether the republicans or democrats are in power.

Note how Eric Cantor is encouraging democrats to vote for Lugar in Indiana's open primary.

When Michelle Bachman tried to defund ObamaCare after the TEA party gave the house to the GOP, the House Majority leader shut her down. Tell me again how the GOP will do less damage? Well I doubt they would actually set up a king, but like currently you can actually be a king with EO's until they are over ruled either by congress or the courts, or a new president who then becomes the new king.

976 posted on 05/07/2012 12:10:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: laotzu

Since you pinged me, from what I understand, it was very bad back in 2007-2008. Diehard Romney supporters were quite a nasty bunch.

The GOP wanted Romney, and they got him-—thanks to their maneuvering of rules, their intention to set him up from the beginning as inevitable, and thanks to the idiots who voted for him in the primaries. The fact that Romney’s religion is being dissected should come as no surprise. It’s on a par with Scientology.

We didn’t vet the last guy to occupy the White House, and look what happened. I think people have a right to know about Romney’s religion. I agree that we have to stop tearing people apart. But that doesn’t have to happen if we use a little restraint.


977 posted on 05/07/2012 12:11:07 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Colofornian; buckleyfan
Oh, and btw, in case you didn't know...even posters in our sports-mad culture tend to be able to identify with sports analogies

Not sports analogies that have no parallel with anything being said in the conversation.

Sorry, Colo, but your post was bizarre and made no sense whatsoever. Even with your confused explanation, it's still pretty shaky...

But I'll give you a pass only because you knew the Tribe was in first place.

978 posted on 05/07/2012 12:12:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: netmilsmom
"CatherineofAragon Since Oct 25, 2011"

I thought I heard my name called! ::::waving::::

979 posted on 05/07/2012 12:13:20 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: ohioWfan; Elsie
btw, I didn't 'single out' anything. I was talking about religious threads in general and their contentious, irrational anger devoid of critical thought and true spirituality. I don't go there. I stick with politics here, and devote myself to Christ in His Holy Word and in prayer, the fellowship of Believers and ministry.

Well...hmm...I could have sworn you used the word "behavior" -- which goes beyond discussing "politics" -- which you now claim you "stick" to...

Which post am I to believe? This one...or the one where you're judging Elsie's "behavior?"

.Does that aid your confusion and grossly misplaced sarcasm?

Does that aid you in understanding why I am now confused -- that your previous post (to Elz) and your latest post (to me) doesn't match up...and why your previous post deserved some commentary?

980 posted on 05/07/2012 12:13:53 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: reaganaut
Defending the faith is ‘un-Christ like’?!

Never said anything like that.

Not even close.

I defend my faith in Christ all the time. Enough to be called names, even.....

Barking up the wrong tree, naut.

981 posted on 05/07/2012 12:19:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Vendome

Thanks FRiend!


982 posted on 05/07/2012 12:20:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Colofornian
Just spend a little time actually thinking about it and stop reacting emotionally.

You'll catch on eventually.

Go TRIBE!

983 posted on 05/07/2012 12:21:25 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: fishtank

I am well aware of that, and have been for decades.


984 posted on 05/07/2012 12:24:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: eastforker

The seeking of God is strictly a human endeavor. Lower life-forms are incapable of fathoming how such perfection exists. People are born with the nature to seek God. It is not magic, it is not science, it is observation of perfection all around. This is what drives people to seek God—they observe such perfection and are unable to attribute it to any other entity—spontaneous generation is an old theory and it just doesn’t make sense. I have spent the biggest part of 4 decades studying living systems. Most people have no idea how complex life is nor do they comprehend how perfect their environment is that supports life.


985 posted on 05/07/2012 12:31:38 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: EnglishCon
But I cannot and will not give up on anyone. That would be wrong.

Absolutely and I don't think anyone is suggesting giving up on anyone. On the contrary, those who most vehemently oppose God are the ones more likely to come to Him. God said He'd rather that we were hot or cold than lukewarm. Lukewarm indicates not caring. You can't touch a heart that doesn't care.

At least with those who hate and rail, it shows that deep down they really care. they just react that way out of pain and hurt.

A spit in the eye for the One who granted me grace after backsliding, breaking commandments and cursing Him out about as vigorously as he has ever been cursed.

You're not alone by any stretch. I have a friend who does jail ministry who has stories that rival that and yes, they have been converted.

986 posted on 05/07/2012 12:31:44 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Mountain Mary

I agree with your assessment of Romney’s character, Mary. I truly think he’s one of the most ruthless, devious, rotten individuals I’ve seen. It amazed me that people either couldn’t see it, or ignored it, and decided they wanted him to be the nominee.

Romney is over the line in so many ways.


987 posted on 05/07/2012 12:42:58 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Elsie

LOL


988 posted on 05/07/2012 12:49:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Elsie
It was a metaphor, Elsie.

You confuse angry, brow-beating, and arrogant sarcasm, (on colorful display on this thread) with "defending the faith." Mixing in Scripture with your self-centered attacks on others doesn't blur what you're doing as you call attention to yourself. It actually makes what you're doing worse.

You are letting YOU get in the way of the truth you claim you are trying to proclaim.

Here are a few words I learned from a song I learned 60 years ago in Sunday School.....Jesus and Others and You, what a wonderful way to spell JOY........put yourself last and spell "JOY."

Simple words to live by. Putting Jesus first will calm you down too and help that elevated blood pressure... may Jesus Christ be praised, and may HE receive all the Glory! :)

989 posted on 05/07/2012 12:51:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Osage Orange
It's funny isn't. I would one asking for their account to be suspended would just not come back.

Yet...

990 posted on 05/07/2012 12:58:49 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: EnglishCon; reaganaut; buckleyfan; laotzu; eastforker; itsahoot
Was gonna stay out of this, but: Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Well, if I recall correctly...Jesus -- who had no beams, motes, or even splinters in His eyes -- made this statement...whereas the rest of have these "blinders" of various sorts...varying in size...

So when you cite this...it apparently assumes the eye surgery on your own eyes has left you in a position that's left you "beam-free" then? (Elsewise, have could you possibly just the size of Reaganaut's supposed motes? ...Do do you claim to be holier than all & have no beams? ... And now somebody could post me asking if I'm "holier-than-thou" compared to EnglishCon & we could have one-upsmanship queries til Jesus returns! )

991 posted on 05/07/2012 12:59:02 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: AnTiw1; Admin Moderator
“I am really tired of hearing the hatred spewed concerning other beliefs if different than some of these bigots.”

You mean like the bigots that inform people that the republican presidential candidate sees the white house as a stepping stone to godhood?

Your original post had quotation marks around the first paragraph, I had no way of knowing that it was not all your post.

Normally when posting your comments to someone else's post, Italics is used to differentiate your comments from the post you are commenting about. There are other ways like {xxxx} or even a line

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Honest mistake.

992 posted on 05/07/2012 1:04:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. You can't trust the man with the big red (R))
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To: reaganaut

Most people these days, including most Christians, are unable to discern sound doctrine. That’s why they can’t figure out if the Garden of Eden was in Missouri or not, how Moroni from the land of Moron magically turned into an angel (why that’s wrong), that full-blooded American Indians have no Jewish DNA, etc. etc.


993 posted on 05/07/2012 1:06:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: EnglishCon; reaganaut

You are sadly mistaken about Judging....the verse you quoted
“Judge not, that you be not judged” is often the wailing cry of false teachers and hardened sinners who misapply the verse to ward off censure for their evil deeds.

We are not to be intimidated by such people, for Jesus has commanded us to judge with righteous judgment (John 7:24).

“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).

Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.

“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).

All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so. “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24).


994 posted on 05/07/2012 1:13:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: Neoliberalnot
If I may, you should add this to your list:

Who is more likely to shut down websites like Freerepublic?

995 posted on 05/07/2012 1:15:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Vendome
Great post, Bigot!
996 posted on 05/07/2012 1:15:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: EnglishCon; reaganaut; laotzu; eastforker; itsahoot; buckleyfan
Christian charity exists for a reason. Because we cannot judge. Only God can do that. Are you God? Or even The Shadow?

Only God? Sounds like only God -- and Englishcon! (Hint: You just judged reaganaut). I guess that must make you "God's shadow," eh, Englishcon?

This is what's so tragically sad in our culture. Posters commonly refute themselves on these threads...Englishcon just did...Laotzu did in post 918...Eastforker has done it a few times on this thread (I'll cover this not only in this post but in my next post as well). Posters will claim -- in essence -- "thou shalt not" -- all as they proceed to do it! Simply amazing!

Since some of you still can't figure out how you refute yourself, allow me to try to spell it out:

* When you say "Stop being judgmental" -- some "judgmentalism" is involved in telling others to stop being judgmental! ...

* When you negatively attach labels -- otherwise known as "bashing" -- to people you condemn as "bashers" (like Eastforker did in post #157 & Laotzu did in post #918 -- in bashing religious others as "un-American")...

* When you say that the ONLY absolute is that there are NO absolutes -- that only YOUR absolute (of apparent 0 absolutes) carries the day (like Eastforker has done in posts #70 & #286) ... all while hypocritically railing vs. other perceived "religious absolutists" like Eastforker did in post #84 ...

When you're entirely intolerant of the religious expressions of others -- as Eastforker (& others) have repeatedly shown on this thread...all as he repeatedly accuses others of being intolerant ("bigots")...and says in post #46: "It is the bigot that has a closed mind. They are the ones that don’t understand when someone else has a different perspective." ...

...Then how much more religious hypocrisy & self-contradictions are we suppose to wink at???

We have that "different perspective" religiously from Eastforker & others on this thread. If you, EnglishCon, Laotzu, Eastforker, & perhaps others don't understand that, then by Eastforker's very definition of a "bigot" means you qualify as one.

So you have zero idea of what is in the heart of any man, woman or child.

(But apparently you, EnglishCon, have plenty" of idea as to what's in Reaganaut's heart, eh?)

So lets judge a little less and accept that the Lord knows what he is doing a little more.

So let's discern all we want to as Christians -- per what the apostle Paul says to do in 1 Cor. 2: (vv. 13-16) (Paul even uses the word "judge"). Why does Paul say to do that? (Because those in Christ collectively have the Mind of Christ)

997 posted on 05/07/2012 1:17:58 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: ohioWfan

I think you should re read what you wrote.


998 posted on 05/07/2012 1:19:05 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian

No.

I accept the whole of the verse, not just one line. It is why I do not judge. (terms and conditions apply, see package for details)

Let me lay it on you in vernacular. (Sorry, I do this a lot in bible class for the kids - it helps.)

“Man, you can’t judge because you cannot see past your own failures and fears to see others at all accurately. Only God sees clearly, only God can judge, and he will judge you on your own scale.”

Same guy who said that shamed an entire town into inaction and a sheepish retreat by saying “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”

It is a risky action to take, for “those who sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind.”

Lot of stones being cast here. Either I have wandered into the forum the various saints post on when they get bored, or there are a lot of beams impeding a lot of eyes and being ignored.

I am happy enough to look at Romney - or Obama - and dislike him as a lying, conniving, scum sucking, cheating, backstabbing SOB who is in it purely for himself.
His being a Mormon is none of my business.
Nixon was a Quaker. About the most peaceful and honest sect you can get. How did that work out for ya?


999 posted on 05/07/2012 1:20:22 PM PDT by EnglishCon (When life gets too much to stand - kneel.)
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To: ohioWfan

I think you should re read what you wrote.


1,000 posted on 05/07/2012 1:23:39 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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