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To: ReleaseTheHounds

It may already be “illegal” to pay women less, but the fact remains, women earn significantly less, men get paid more. However, men may work more hours at their jobs, because women still are the ones who really care about the family. I don’t pretend to know what the answer is.


18 posted on 05/07/2012 7:56:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“...because women still are the ones who really care about the family.”

Not true. Try taking your head out of your @$$ before making generalizations like this.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 9:06:48 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Forget the GOP and build the Constitution Party, because the status quo is no longer the way to go.)
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To: yldstrk

Let’s look at the larger picture:

Women have demanded & gotten time off to have their children.....now they are wanting such time off to be PAID by the employer. Not fair, I say.

Are the Feds going to look at a year’s W-2 or look at hourly pay? If a woman is gone 6 weeks for her ‘new born’—that can affect a W-2.

Men tend to get more education than women—therefore, such extra education should draw more hourly pay. Women get married- get pregnant- and then start whining about getting special benefits the men never can get because of sheer biology.

Men can do a larger range of jobs- lift more- are more willing to do dirty jobs like oil fields, etc.

Women want the ‘clean jobs’—they want exact hours, and most are not willing to work overtime to get something done or to get a repaired part out the door. Men will be more likely to do that.

Even women who have no kids or are single want to watch the time clock. They don’t look at a job or skill as a career—it is just a job & a paycheck. They can call it a career all they want—but then they cannot have multiple interruptions in continuous service to have their ‘family’. This has always stuck in my craw.

Women have created a hostile environment in the business place for all men. Even the slightest lift of an eyebrow by a man can draw a sexual harassment suit. I know a large number of men who used to be friendly in their work environment. Now, they only speak to a female when required to do so. They no longer EVER go to lunch with a female co-worked in the group. Some even refuse to car pool with female co-workers. Too much risk. On top of that, men who own businesses are now carrying extra insurance premiums because of potential accusations of sexual misconduct. I am talking about men who have never intentially said or done anything toward a female employee that could have construed as sexual harassment or misconduct before the 70’s. Women have handcuffed their own opportunities, IMO.

The vagueness of the wording of sexual harassment laws have men on edge and women on the prowl, IMO.

I remember the old argement: “Why should a SINGLE brain surgeon get more pay than a MARRIED janitor with 9 kids? The guy with 9 kids needed to support them in the manner they wished to be supported!!””

The non-match of the skills involved wasn’t allowed to be discussed—only the number of children!!

In the 70’s or 80’s in Angeles, there was a stupid push over the price of cleaning/laundry fees about the difference of the cost of a man’s shirt and a woman’s blouse. The women were complaining that they were being ‘overcharged’.

No matter that the honest, hard working people of the cleaning industry showed over and over again that all the design differences, buttons, etc. of a woman’s blouse required more time to press, etc., versus the sameness and flatness of a man’s shirt——the Los Angeles City Council demanded that the price be the same...

Sooooo—the cost of a man’s shirt went to over $1.50 or more to match the price of a woman’s blouse!!!!! Some of those increases were over double!

The hue and cry was wonderful!!!

Then they started to debate the same subject regarding HAIRCUTS!!! Again- the women thought they were being overcharged!

After their abject failure on the cleaning fight, the haircut fight never got off the ground!!

We are not oreo cookies—one of the reasons I quit working in union jobs. The worst employee with the same required job ‘skills’ got paid the same as the best, fastest, most accurate employee for the same ‘skills’. The worst one could be a total slacker & the best one could work rings around the worst one, but work performance bonuses were never granted. I said goodbye.

One union job I left took 2 1/2 persons to replace me. I still love that fact. Some of the job duties I held were never replaced. No one could find all the info I could find. I wasn’t offering them any help, either. It is my brain & MY effort. You cannot mandate me to prop up the lazy ones. Period.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 9:45:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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