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Lawmakers Push Bill To Ban Criminals From Suing Victims(AL)
whnt.com ^ | 6 May, 2012 | Nick Banaszak

Posted on 05/07/2012 9:02:03 AM PDT by marktwain

Imagine the horror of having your home or business plundered by thieves. Not a good feeling, but even harder to fathom that the bad guys who did it could end up suing you in court.

State lawmakers say an existing legal loophole allows thieves to file civil lawsuits against home and business owners if they end up getting injured while intruding. But a bill working its way through the Alabama State Legislature would put an end to the practice.

If approved, House Bill 46 would grant immunity to property owners from civil lawsuits by criminals in almost all circumstances. State Senator Arthur Orr (R) of Decatur is one of the bill’s supporters, and says the proposed law is long overdue.

“If this bill is passed, no more of this in Alabama,” said Orr, who is a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee that recently cleared the bill. “It would put a stop to what I would consider frivolous lawsuits by criminals, and not letting them profit for being somewhere that they should not have been in the first place.”

Orr said there have been instances where thieves filed lawsuits against their intended victims, and even won monetary judgments in some cases. Some of the thieves were injured by property owners acting in self-defense, while other criminals harmed themselves through accidents at the crime scene, such as tripping over a piece of furniture.

House Bill 46 has already passed unanimously through the Alabama State House, and now awaits a vote in the State Senate.

Alabama’s current “Castle Doctrine” law already grants wide-ranging protection to property owners in the criminal half of the court system.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: al; banglist; castle; tortreform
A good step in the right direction.
1 posted on 05/07/2012 9:02:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

A good addition to castle doctrine... this is part of the reason why sharpton is suing... getting money from neighborhood watch places...


2 posted on 05/07/2012 9:07:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: marktwain

Agreed, though it is a shame that such a law even needs to be passed as common sense should dictate such suits are banned.


3 posted on 05/07/2012 9:08:36 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The LAW dictates such suits be banned - a criminal who breaks into a property and enters uninvited is making a willing assumption of risk (the risks of breaking and entering should be well-known to all criminals).

The jury system only works well when there is a reasonably educated jury. Tort claims are no longer decided based on fact - they are decided based on the skill of the lawyers involved and their ability to play on the emotions of jurors.

4 posted on 05/07/2012 9:22:44 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

—Agreed, though it is a shame that such a law even needs to be passed as common sense should dictate such suits are banned.—

Yeah. Your post reflected what I was thinking as I read this article. That this sort of stuff gets through jury trials is not a good reflection on the quality of the US culture.


5 posted on 05/07/2012 9:26:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: In Maryland

Pure Comparative means almost all tort suits go to the jury. The lawyer best able to “work” the jury (Edwards!)will win; the law and the facts become almost meaningless.


6 posted on 05/07/2012 9:28:18 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marktwain

Much sanity coming out of Sweet Home Alabama these days.

A plethora of wisdom compared to so-called “smarter” states.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 9:29:45 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: cuban leaf

Yep, welcome to the biggoted automatic bureaucratic thinking of welfare:”the man is always wrong and the one who must fix everything... because he can, you know, redistribution obliges”

This is this sort of 5 year old feminist culture that pervades everywhere, and lawyers bring it up into a language of “humaneness” everytime, getting corrupt politico jurors to side with them.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 9:30:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: cuban leaf

I’m a native Californian and even our sick state partially banned such suits back in the 1970’s. A burglar was climbing on a roof seeking to enter a building and fell through a skylight.He collected $800,000. That case motivated our degenerate legislature to pass remedial legislation. However, the criminal must be convicted of a felony, a misdemeanor will not ban the suit. Given the heavy use of plea deals one can have a burglar convicted of a misdemeanor.


9 posted on 05/07/2012 9:39:31 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marktwain

Could be invoked here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2880886/posts


10 posted on 05/07/2012 9:45:45 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Rush: If Ward Churchill had a daughter, she’d look like Elizabeth Warren.)
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To: JudgemAll

Castle doctrine laws include a civil immunity clause. It is a tort reform issue that trial lawyers and slap suit happy anti-second amendment groups simply loath.

These sue the victim suits arrise from an old line of spring gun booby trap cases where a thief was injured because he set off a booby trap. Tort lawyers and anti property right groups took this to the extreme via insurance claims and moron juries.


11 posted on 05/07/2012 10:27:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marktwain

That’s RAAACCIIIIIIST!


12 posted on 05/07/2012 12:30:32 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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