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Knives are banned at Tampa’s GOP convention, but guns are OK
Miami Herald ^ | May 2, 2012 | Fred Grimm

Posted on 05/07/2012 9:12:36 AM PDT by bkopto

Don’t come messing around the Republican National Convention with an “air rifle, air pistol, paintball rifle, explosive blasting cap, switchblade, hatchet, ax, slingshot, blackjack, metal knuckles, nunchakus, mace, iron buckle, ax handle, chain, crowbar, hammer, shovel or any club or bludgeon.”

All this along with “any other instrumentality used or intended to be used to cause physical or personal damage.”

Except, of course, for the most obvious instrument intended to cause physical or personal damage.

The city didn’t prohibit guns. It can’t.

Gov. Rick Scott, who could, won’t. He rejected a request from Mayor Bob Buckhorn asking for an “executive order prohibiting the transportation of firearms in Downtown Tampa.”

Scott’s answered arrived Wednesday. “Like you,” the governor stated, “I share the concern that ‘violent anti-government protests or other civil unrest’ can post ‘dangers’ and the ‘threat of substantial injury or harm to Florida residents and visitors to the state.’ But it is unclear how disarming law abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law.”

Of course, Buckhorn and the Tampa City Council weren’t worried so much about nice, local, law-abiding retirees packing heat when some 15,000 wild-eyed zealots with so many warring opinions invade Tampa. Buckhorn’s letter to Scott noted that the city has passed a temporary ordinance that “regulates certain items that are usually benign in nature, but have been historically used as dangerous weapons” at certain national events. “One noticeable item missing from the City’s temporary ordinance is firearms.”

The city can keep paint guns, switchblades, even sticks away from the convention site. But legislation passed in 2011 — at the behest of the NRA — forbids local governments from passing even temporary firearm regulations that exceed the state’s tepid gun laws. The statute includes hefty penalties for government officials who try. If the Tampa City Council were to attempt to include guns on its list of temporarily banned items, the city could be hit with a $500,000 penalty and the mayor and council members fined $5,000 fined each and removed from office.

The governor, however, has certain executive powers that, in special circumstances, allow him to “suspend or limit the sale, dispensing or transportation of alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives and combustibles.” Scott would have none of it. And gun rights, in Florida, still trump local concerns. Cities and counties can’t ban firearms in parks, government buildings or airport terminals. Or in the protest zone outside the Tampa Bay Times Forum convention center.

“We look silly in the eyes of the world,” Mayor Buckhorn told reporters last week. “The absurdity of us being able to ban squirt guns but being prohibited from banning guns is just ridiculous.”

Buckhorn should be careful. The gun lobby is forever looking for new and novel ways to demonstrate its formidable political power. Imagine the new bumper sticker: “When they outlaw the Super Soaker Hydro Cannon, only outlaws will have Super Soakers.”


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida; guns

1 posted on 05/07/2012 9:12:42 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: bkopto
I have a steak knife and I know how to use it!
2 posted on 05/07/2012 9:17:09 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Cogito cogito)
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To: bkopto

Absurd? The idiot Dem protesters will need to think twice before intimidating convention goers.


3 posted on 05/07/2012 9:18:28 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: bkopto

>>Scott’s answered arrived Wednesday. “Like you,” the governor stated, “I share the concern that ‘violent anti-government protests or other civil unrest’ can post ‘dangers’ and the ‘threat of substantial injury or harm to Florida residents and visitors to the state.’ But it is unclear how disarming law abiding citizens would better protect them from the dangers and threats posed by those who would flout the law.”

Make fun of “Floriduh” all you want, but we elected a governor who actually gets it!


4 posted on 05/07/2012 9:19:43 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: bkopto
Yeah but Tampa is so peaceful...

5 posted on 05/07/2012 9:20:55 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: bkopto
“We look silly in the eyes of the world,” Mayor Buckhorn told reporters last week. “The absurdity of us being able to ban squirt guns but being prohibited from banning guns is just ridiculous.”

typical...

6 posted on 05/07/2012 9:22:19 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: bkopto

The “Grimm truth”, to borrow a phrase from the Miami Herald, is that Florida has decided to wrap itself in the Second Amendment.

Poor ickle commies like Fred are hyperventilating in unison.

;-)


7 posted on 05/07/2012 9:22:22 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Bryanw92

You can be sure that Gov. Scott will be around Tampa during the RNC. He feels safe amongst us law-abiding citizens too.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 9:24:07 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: bkopto

Nothing but the real deal here! Pale imitators need not apply.


9 posted on 05/07/2012 9:25:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Edgerunner

All squirt gunners will be shot!


10 posted on 05/07/2012 9:26:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: bkopto

The title of this article is an outright lie. Here in Florida we have a concealed weapons permit, not a concealed gun permit. You are free to carry a sword if you want, as long as it’s concealed. The idiots don’t have to worry about the citizens who have gone through the process to get a CWP, worry about the other idiots who will be there to cause trouble.


11 posted on 05/07/2012 9:31:44 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: TSgt

Bring on the race riot nignogs. We are ready.


12 posted on 05/07/2012 9:33:13 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: 109ACS; All

Thanks for the update.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 9:49:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: bkopto

What about battle rifles with a bayonet?


14 posted on 05/07/2012 10:02:13 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bkopto

Since when is the 2nd Amendment just for those things that go bang?

I never have understood the myopic focus on firearms to the exclusion of all other arms.


15 posted on 05/07/2012 10:11:06 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Bryanw92

An acquaintance showed me a copy of Gov Scott’s entire letter over the weekend. It was great. He pointed out that the difference between sticks, bludgeons and the link, on the one hand, and firearms is that that sticks etc are “notably” missing from the second amendment.


16 posted on 05/07/2012 10:17:35 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I too missed the term “gun” in the second amendment. I thought it said “arms” which can include everything they banned.


17 posted on 05/07/2012 10:25:41 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: ModelBreaker

Firearms are “notably” missing from the second amendment. I guess I don’t see your point.


18 posted on 05/07/2012 10:44:49 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: bkopto

If I’m not mistaken they’re using a little sleight-of-hand by referring to “the downtown area” and “convention cite” as if they’re identical phrases.


19 posted on 05/07/2012 10:48:59 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: bkopto
The city didn’t prohibit guns. It can’t. Gov. Rick Scott, who could, won’t.

Rick Scott, you're my hero!

Grimm--what a dumbass. Does this fool not know that CRIMINALS don't obey "no guns" signs? M

These commie-liberals will be the first ones brain-shot against the wall when they get the kind of government they want. Idiots.

20 posted on 05/07/2012 10:57:20 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Durus
Correct. You have a right to ‘arms’. The fact that Gov’t has implied it as merely a gun, is a tragedy.
21 posted on 05/07/2012 11:08:49 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: bkopto

Sounds right to me. The guys with knives would be at a terrible disadvantage against the guys with guns in any likely mass kill-out at the GOP convention.

So banning the knives will discourage the knife fighters and likely lead to a more peaceable convention.

Of course I expect to see some campaign buttons reading:

Once knives are banned, only outlaw delegates will have knives


22 posted on 05/07/2012 11:49:59 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: grumpygresh

The dem protesters don’t worry Tampa or the RNC it’s the conservatives and the Tea Party, we might ask hard questions.


23 posted on 05/07/2012 12:13:35 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: bkopto

I see no mention of cannon.


24 posted on 05/07/2012 1:12:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: bkopto

as usual the miami herald demonstrats why it it dumber than USA Today for idiots. The CCW permit includes knives so if the person is a permit holder the “holding” is legal.

This is just the pro castro commies of the old miami pushing a red neck meme in order to try and provoke a riot.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 9:12:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bkopto

Makes perfect sense. Hunting knives carried on a belt slice the heck out of upholstered seats. Restaurants in deer hunting regions know this. Guns........no problem. Knives......leave in the truck.


26 posted on 05/08/2012 9:17:28 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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