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Rubio hopes to pass DREAM Act alternative by end of summer
The Hill ^ | 07 May 2012 | Daniel Strauss

Posted on 05/07/2012 11:15:27 AM PDT by Theoria

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) aims to have his alternative to the DREAM Act proposal on paper in the next few weeks and passed by the end of the summer.

"Our goal is to pass something this summer in time for kids who plan to go to school this fall," Rubio press secretary Alex Conant said Monday.

Rubio's proposal would provide non-immigrant visas to illegal immigrants' children who attend college or serve in the military.

"So just like lots of people come to the United States on work visas or on student visas or tourism visas or whatever, this would be a non-immigrant visa, so it would be a temporary one," Conant said. "It wouldn't be permanent. But the intent here is if they choose to remain in the United States permanently that they could apply for permanent residence just like any other immigrant would."

Rubio's proposal is an alternative to the Democrat-backed DREAM Act, sponsored by Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. when they were young and then go to college or serve in the military.

Conant said Rubio's legislation would not mean the immigrants would be deported after their visa runs out.

"They could apply for permanent residence after a certain amount of time without having to return to their country of origin," Conant said. "They'd be like any other immigrant except that they could wait while they're in the United States. The Democrats' DREAM Act doesn't have them leaving the country but, as I said, it creates a special pathway for them."

Rubio's office does not yet have an estimate on how many new visas would be issued under the proposal. Conant said it depends on what the qualifying age for the visas in the legislation will be.

A day earlier, Rubio defended the proposal against criticism that it was a form of amnesty.

"We use the existing immigration system to deal with a humanitarian issue. And that is these children who entered this country illegally or have overstayed visas illegally, through no fault of their own," Rubio said on Fox News Sunday. "These are children, they follow their parents. The parents put them in this predicament."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamact; illegals; immigration; marcorubio; pander; panderbear; rino; rinorubio; rubio

1 posted on 05/07/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

These stupid Republicans just try to find ways not to win.

Any true conservative would not propose this as it makes it seem there is no diff between conservative and a lib.

Even Mexican Americans do not want illegal amnesty to occur.


2 posted on 05/07/2012 11:18:29 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: Theoria
NO ILLEGALS

NO AMNESTY

NO COMPROMISE

3 posted on 05/07/2012 11:24:15 AM PDT by South40
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To: Theoria
"They could apply for permanent residence after a certain amount of time without having to return to their country of origin," Conant said. "They'd be like any other immigrant except that they could wait while they're in the United States. The Democrats' DREAM Act doesn't have them leaving the country but, as I said, it creates a special pathway for them."

Apples are oranges in this case. All but the most willfully obtuse know it.

4 posted on 05/07/2012 11:26:00 AM PDT by Calliecat
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To: Theoria

Another “Compassionate Conservative”?

How about some compassion for legal citizens and immigrants who are here legally?


5 posted on 05/07/2012 11:27:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Theoria

I don’t have to worry about romney picking rubio as his running mate. Really, what a selfish thing to do now, to push his divisive goal onto the national agenda at a time like this. This is as disgusting as the lack of self-control shown by romney’s gay ex-foreign-affairs spokesman.


6 posted on 05/07/2012 11:32:06 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: bestintxas

Ears painted on?

Mind closed?

This is NOT “illegal amnesty”!

Rubio spoke to your concerns Sunday on Fox.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 11:32:40 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Theoria
"It wouldn't be permanent. But the intent here is if they choose to remain in the United States permanently that they could apply for permanent residence just like any other immigrant would."

Say what. Isn't this being here FOREVER?

8 posted on 05/07/2012 11:39:22 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: G Larry
This is NOT “illegal amnesty”!

Yes it is.

9 posted on 05/07/2012 11:42:33 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: G Larry
This is NOT “illegal amnesty”!

Yeah.More like move to the front of the line reward for illegal status

10 posted on 05/07/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Theoria

So what is Rubio’s “Dream Act alternative” for European Americans?


11 posted on 05/07/2012 11:46:30 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: EyeGuy

Nada.


12 posted on 05/07/2012 11:50:29 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

After all, a country just can’t have TOO MANY people running around waving worthless diplomas, paid for with taxpayer dollars, who are whining that they can’t find a job.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 11:59:14 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: Theoria

” ... as I said, it creates a special pathway for them.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg


14 posted on 05/07/2012 12:08:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Theoria

My dream is to retire these open-border traitors.

All we need is to add one more magnet for the invaders.

Hey, Rubio, do us a favor—how about concentrating on methods to get the invaders deported before you start “dreaming” up new magnets to draw more illegals here?


15 posted on 05/07/2012 12:16:25 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Theoria
Rubio hopes to pass DREAM Act alternative by end of summer

Here we go again.

16 posted on 05/07/2012 12:24:55 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Theoria

Saint Marco’s wings are melting before your eyes.

No experience, not eligible, been there done that.


17 posted on 05/07/2012 12:28:22 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Theoria

“Our goal is to pass something this summer in time for kids who plan to go to school this fall,” Rubio press secretary Alex Conant said Monday.

Rubio’s proposal would provide non-immigrant visas to illegal immigrants’ children who attend college or serve in the military.

“kids” “children”: illegal aliens themselves.

Then they turn around and sponsor their lawbreaking parents, who bring in their shirt-tail relatives—so that then these new citizens start taking in their illegal friends, as they were sheltered, and begin renting out closet space to invaders in the next wave.

It’s bud-nippin’ time, and I’m hoping Dick “DREAM Act” Luger realizes it in about 26 hours while Rubio has painted an `ojo del toro’ on himself. Go Go GOPee!


18 posted on 05/07/2012 12:54:00 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Theoria

Rubio is anathema to me. Shame, I used to like him but he is a RINO like the rest of them.


19 posted on 05/07/2012 1:05:04 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Rubio needs to be primaried in next Senate Election. His Hispandering and McCain like interventionism is just the tip of the iceberg on this statist tool Rubio!


20 posted on 05/07/2012 1:15:30 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Theoria

“And that is these children who entered this country illegally or have overstayed visas illegally, through no fault of their own,” Rubio said on Fox News Sunday”

Well, Marco, when do they become at ‘fault’? After they get caught?


21 posted on 05/07/2012 1:15:42 PM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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To: Theoria
Rubio...what part of ILLEGAL do you not get!

They are criminals from the day they entered, send them home, all of them, that is the compassionate thing to do, for them and all of us taxpayers who support them.

22 posted on 05/07/2012 1:30:18 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Theoria
Here's a "DREAM ACT" for ya:

ALL Illegals are rounded up, prosecuted, and sentenced to a MINIMUM of 2 years in a Maximum Security, NO-FRILLS prison, OR, they can head back to the Motherland in lieu, thereof, AND, take the deposited offspring with ya....(just because a Foreigner drops a baby in the USA when visiting ILLEGALLY, does NOT MEAN they are automatically U.S. Citizens...that's the stupidest interpretation of the Constitution EVER MADE.

23 posted on 05/07/2012 1:32:34 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Theoria

He likes crapping in his own nest, I guess. Without debating the merits of the substance, it seems like a really stupid thing to take up when people on our side are rightfully incensed about a lot of different things government does being in stateful derangement, immigration being one of them.


24 posted on 05/07/2012 1:39:51 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Theoria

Rubio = RINO. Just say no to Rubio. He’s biting the hand that fed him.


25 posted on 05/07/2012 1:41:37 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: G Larry

You must be dreaming in lala land if you truly believe it will come down like that.

Reagan tried to do this in the 1980s and all it did was entice more to come here.

It is ALWAYS enticement when those who break the law are not suffering the consequences of their actions. Period.

Spin it like you wish, this is clearly not what the majority of Americans(as well as those who seek the legal way to enter this country) support.


26 posted on 05/07/2012 1:58:16 PM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: bestintxas

Here’s your “lala” NOT a DREAM approach:

1-Close the Border
2-Fire current INS management and incentivise new mgmt.
3-Close a couple other Federal agencies and reallocate to INS.
4-Enforce employer sanctions for those with illegal workers.
5-Initiate strong deportation policy.
6-Enact Rubios recommendations.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 2:41:10 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Theoria

“We use the existing immigration system to deal with a humanitarian issue. And that is these children who entered this country illegally or have overstayed visas illegally, through no fault of their own,” Rubio said on Fox News Sunday. “These are children, they follow their parents. The parents put them in this predicament.”

Until these children reach age 18 they are under the subversion & guidance of their parents and does not matter what the kids think or want to do.It’s irrelevant, the parents put them in this predicament than have the parents arrested for child abuse.The message is parents it’s ok to break the laws, we will reward you with free college educations for your kids and you parents will never be held accountable for breaking our laws.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 4:20:56 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
Yes. The same argument of imprisoned parents. Your parents or parent got put in jail. We will give you special treatment compared to the other children at large.

Absurd.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

I tried to warn a lot of Consevative folks I know about Rubio. No one believed me. They all said hes 100% Conservative I said no. I said he was a Latino first. La Raza will always come first with him.

And some people want him to be POTUS! geez.


30 posted on 05/07/2012 5:06:41 PM PDT by GR_Jr. (Vote Obama out now.....deal with Romney later.)
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To: GR_Jr.
The same people that are slobbering over him and wanting him as VP are probably the same morons that were drooling over the thought of Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell as candidates for President or VP.

Weak minded people are easily swayed and easy to stampede.

31 posted on 05/07/2012 7:08:52 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: Theoria

Rubio—still ineligible to be POTUS or VPOTUS.

Stupid ideas and all.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 7:19:19 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: G Larry

I’d say also that rather than allowing those who are willing to break the law by bringing them ahead of the line, we do the exact opposite.
Make them the last we will ever consider to become a citizen of our country.

Oh BTW, I would also add voting ID’s everwhere. That includes the nut cases in CA, where a lot of the illegals here came from originally.


33 posted on 05/08/2012 4:35:12 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: bestintxas

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE!!!

They are getting in the BACK OF THE LINE, albeit, with a more efficient and motivated INS.

Voter ID is an overarching need, independent of illegal immigration.


34 posted on 05/08/2012 5:33:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

there is no way someone who breaks the law gets a pass.

An spin it as you like, they are getting a pass.

Bigtime.


35 posted on 05/08/2012 7:00:50 PM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: bestintxas

Oh...the kids broke the law?

Where you going to shoot them here, or bus them home?


36 posted on 05/08/2012 9:25:32 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

Since they are not adults, they are under the direction of their parents.
Their parents broke the law.

There are laws in this country.

A country that allows its laws to be broken will itself be broken.

you are on the wrong side of most Americans on this one.


37 posted on 05/09/2012 4:32:14 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: bestintxas

Says you!

YOU are on the wrong side of reality on this one.


38 posted on 05/09/2012 4:39:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Theoria; mickie; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; surfer; All
Every Florida freeper (and everyone else, too) reading this should contact Rubio immediately. Just don't sit there at the computer shaking your heads. Freep the crap out of this guy! Rubio has an email form on his home page.

I just emailed a blue dart off to him....you may have seen it streaking past your window trailing flames.

Of all the stupid things to do it's to release a dumb proposal shortly before the November election....a divisive bit of chicanery being released in a key electoral state, UNBELIEVABLE !

I'm in shock over his self-centered initiative which is guaranteed to cause division and hurt his own party's chances in the election.

.....and he is supposed to be the newbie Latino Einstein of the GOP.....maybe more like that so-called "wise Latina" on the Supreme Court.

Leni

39 posted on 05/09/2012 5:15:00 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: G Larry

You have my sympathy for the brain-clog you are experiencing.


40 posted on 05/09/2012 10:00:43 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: MinuteGal

Just showing his true colors.

Bottom line...we need a new conservative party that has principles, ethics and a signed contract for anyone representing the conservative party.


41 posted on 05/09/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: bestintxas

YOU want to ship 20 million people out of the country, and “I” am the one with the “brain clog”?????


42 posted on 05/09/2012 11:10:08 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

Sigh: those who remain ignorant of history will never learn anything.

Read about Operation Wetback http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Virtually all those affected left voluntarily rather than be in your words, “shipped back”.

Evil people spread lies like yours. Seems you are nothing but a race-baiting monger.


43 posted on 05/10/2012 11:42:11 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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To: bestintxas

Oh...Jim..he called me “evil”...ohhhh....

Rubio did an excellent job of outlining his plan, this a.m. on Laura’s show. He acknowledged area that require further work.

If you were literate, you would have read in my initial post, the steps necessary to make this work.
An obvious result of imposing penalties on employers is the self deportation aspect.
You’ll pardon me if I don’t follow your lead by referring to racist programs and their related propaganda, just because they may have the wikipedia stamp of approval.
The key elements of Rubio’s plan involve the use of “non-imigrant visas” for students who were minors at the time of their arrival. It DOES NOT move them to the front of any line. In fact it moves them to the back of the line.
At the same time it addresses critical improvements to the legal immigration process, which can take over 5 years with the current broken system.

Nice to see you’re so opposed to character assasination and name calling, that you’re motivated to maintain a substantive discussion on the merits.
Thus, I’m through wasting my time with you.


44 posted on 05/10/2012 1:32:16 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

As I said, you have my sympathy on recovering from your obvious problems.


45 posted on 05/11/2012 11:45:14 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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