Skip to comments.Obama's Conn. Social Security Number hits Rush
Posted on 05/07/2012 12:42:10 PM PDT by GregNH
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“One should not make too much of the geographical code.”
Yes, especially since they JUST did away with using it!
Nothing to see here!
If you figure out the answer to that, maybe it would also help explain why the heck I can't remember her screenname. She used to post on the Rush LIVE threads back in the day, keeping a mostly quiet profile. During the height of the bazillion Rush/drug threads being posted, she got real active for a brief spell trying to post replies on a lot of them. I used to keep an eye out for her screenname to see if she ever came back. But, after a time, I could no longer remember it.
I meant may not have been fraudulent if he was an Indo. citizen; of course he’s a fraudulent president in about a dozen ways.
They want to keep the bc a rodeo clown also to minimize the seriousness of the fact that both were forgeries. It is a big deal to them, because every single “fact” of his life is a lie.
How do I know it is not settled law? There is a guy in the WH who was not born of US citizen parents and has a birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii saying he was born there.
You and I can agrue what is the definition of natural born citizen as it applies to eligibility to be President under the Constitution, but we can't resolve it. Only the courts can do that and they have never been presented with this case.
I believe it has to be resolved sooner rather than later. We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies being born each year in this country to illegal alien parents. The are American citizens by virtue of jus solis. They can get a passport, receive all the various benefits, and vote when they reach 18. We also have an immigrant population of 40 million in this country with about 15 million being green card holders, not citizens. What is the status of their children re being eligible to be President? The sooner we can get this resolved the better.
Snopes really had to contort themselves for that one!
That is right off of the SSA website—word for word. It is my understanding that Obama was 16 when he received his SSN, which would make it after 1971.
I think you underestimate the importance of Rush allowing a discussion of the Birth Certificate issue on his show. Millions of people who might know nothing of this controversy have now heard that just maybe there is an issue lurking concerning the legitimacy of the Obama Presidency.
And you are wrong in saying that Rush didn't address the BC issue. He challenged the caller with something like "Even Trump believes the BC is legit" but the more important fact is that he kept the discussion alive when he could have killed it dead, dead, dead. I view the SS issue as just some frosting on the BC cake.
Good for you Rush. You've made the Chicago gang a little bit more nervous than there were yesterday at this time.
“How do I know it is not settled law? There is a guy in the WH who was not born of US citizen parents and has a birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii saying he was born there. “
umm.. no. the birth certificate has been proven to be a forgery by an official law enforcement body.
the left wanted him, as he’s as hard left as they could find... and they have disregarded the law, and the Constitution, to do it.
“You and I can agrue what is the definition of natural born citizen as it applies to eligibility to be President under the Constitution, but we can’t resolve it. Only the courts can do that and they have never been presented with this case.”
yea, because the Constitution was written so only the high priests would be able to divine its meaning. as for a case regarding his eligibility, it has popped up and was promptly shut down... as all similar cases have. it’s never allowed on the docket.
all those trying to state that being born on the soil is enough, always fail to explain why the founders deliberately changed the wording from citizen to natural born citizen. it was discussed in the federalist papers. they wanted to insure that no person taking the office had split allegiances, at least by birth.
this isn’t rocket science and does not require the high priests of the supreme court to figure out. it was common wording used around the world for centuries.
At worst, Obama was a C student, even if he didn't earn it. I doubt the libs at the colleges he went to had the nuggets to give him anything lower.
You have to love the ‘mis-typed’ zip code scenario. Another ‘dog ate the homework’ excuse.
Also remember the O’Reilly stated unequivocally that the reason for the CT SS number was that father Obama applied for it while at Harvard.
Of course what O’Reilly said was completely wrong for many reasons. But it shows the ‘excuses’ were varied on this until they found this one.
The zip code theory was born from Fogbow on their forum. No basis in fact. They just all agreed it would be ‘the story’ going forward.
“Most likely, this was due to a clerical error. At the time, President Obama was only 15 years old, and lived with his grandparents in an address on Beretania Street. The Presidents house in Hawaii was in zip code 96814 and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814. Since the ‘0’ and ‘9’ on a typical typewriter are immediately adjacent (remember, the president’s Social Security number was issued in 1977, before the age of computers), it would have been a common error to accidently type a ‘0’ when the ZIP code really began with a ‘9’. Another possibility is that President Obama, a left-handed 15 year old boy at the time, may have written his own ZIP code in a less-than-fully-legible manner, making the ‘9’ look somewhat like an ‘0’.”
January 5, 2011 is when this theory came to life.
“Am I right in thinking that the typo hypothesis would be supported by any Zip code that begins with 960- through 969-, corresponding to CT’s range of 060-/069-? And aren’t all HA Zip codes in the 967-/968- range?
If that’s the case, why is Orly making a stink about a specific 5-digit code?
Edited to add:
In other words, wouldn’t any HA Zip code turn into a CT Zip code if the initial “9” (which they all have) were misread as a “0”?”
Everything on this theory comes from this January 5, 2011 post....
Just out of curiosity, what was her FReeper screen name?
May I suggest that you try GoodSearch.com instead of Snopes or any other search engine? I find them very reliable, and quick.
Also, if you would like to list a charity with them, they donate a cople of pennies every time you use the site.
IIRC, and I am 56 years old, I had to present a copy of my BC and to fill out a form with my address. I did this at the SSA office in Boston. The card was issued on the spot. The only cards in that office would have only the regional code for that office. There can not be a clerical mistake. In fact IIRC we used to use just the last two digits of the zip code back then. I lived in Malden MA and I would of wrote 48 for my zip code. The zip code was irrelevant!
The wrong zip code theory doesn’t fly.
They had to mail him the SS card. With wrong zip in the 70’s it would be returned to sender.
The Connecticut SS number was the number that had already been assigned to an elderly man. It was not a new number.
Obama never used the Connecticut SS# until the 1980’s. This was long after he had left Hawaii. During his earlier life and at Occidental College he had a SS# granted only to foreigners. He did not use this SS number at Occidental College, that is for certain.
Bill Ayers and other members of the Weather Underground and other leftist groups were taught to obtain fraudulent SS numbers and false identities. Ayers and Obama were in NYC together in the 1980’s. Though both claim to have met for the first time at a fund raiser for Obama’s political campaign at Ayers house in Chicago.
Ayers and Obama were both on the same boards of the Woods Foundation and the Annenberg Fund long before their supposed meeting. Obama was also seen at Ayers parent's house thanking them for their help.
The fake SS number was created for Obama in the 1980’s.
The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.
You haven't been around here long enough, one of his staffers is.......
I'll give you an additional clue, how many times have you been active here on FR and heard Rush or Hannity in the background bringing up a topic that you just read or scrolled past?
Only if you accept "Dreams From My Father" as proof of his progenitors. For all we know, his biological father may have been Malcolm X. It is thought that "Dreams" was written by Bill Ayers (an absolute fountainhead of truth!). In fact sans reliable documentation we do not even know for sure that Stanley Ann Dunham was Obama's mother...
This connivance to obliterate his background while elevating him to the pinnacle of American politics has been going on since well before his physical birth. To borrow a phrase, he is a "Made Man".
Take off the glaces and who do you see?
Who can blame him?
“The most likely explanation”
How about getting the facts instead of guessing?! Demand the jackass provide the answer like you would if it were a Republican/Conservative. There would be no guessing in that case and no defending and/or explaining something you can’t answer.
Megadittos, ElRushbo and crew....
“Welcome to the party, Pal”
Or better yet realize they are paraphrasing a position you took.
He blew his cover years ago when he used the term "barf alert" on his radio show!
Thanks. I must have overlooked your comment in that post.
You’re welcome. Sorry I couldn’t help more. :-)
I have to put my faith in Sheriff Joe.
I want to see what nationality he claimed and whether he used any public assistance when he enrolled in Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Where did an ice cream scooper get the money for all that?
Don’t ask, don’t tell, media style.
From a comment on Breitbart.com:
“I agree, but who has the power or guts to investigate him and strip him of his title, try him for treason (which should be done) and throw his fraudlent a** in prison? I think they are all afraid of the same thing happening to them that happened to Andrew Brietbart and his coroner who was mysteriously poisoned to death!
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Has anyone researched to find out if there was even Baskins & Robbins in HI near where he lived?
Why Barack Obama’s Social Security card application might have included a Connecticut mailing address is something of a curiosity, as he had no known connection to that state at the time, but by itself that quirk is no indicator of fraud. The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since ‘0’ and ‘9’ are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it’s not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident’s application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut).’
I suppose you also believe the date stamp just happened to malfunction the day poor Little-why’s-everybody-always-picking-on-me-Barry registered for the draft?
The number of sheer, wild, staggering coincidences in this Fraud’s life are...incredible.
The penalty for Treason is death. There has not even been anyone tried for treason in this country since sometime in the 50’s. Because if there had been, we wouldn’t have these traitorous creatures totally infiltrated in our Government!
Oh, yeah, that’s been confirmed. He did work at the B&R in HI for a few weeks one summer.
From this article the first apparent use of the SS # was 1986 in Chicago.
“Other than the 1980 Selective Service registration, the first time Daniels could find Obama using the 042 number was in 1986 in Chicago.”
I also always liked the fact that Ayers & Co. were stealing SS # in NYC at the Baby Boutique. Of course what state is next to NYC - Connecticut.
Yeah. They should tell Dan Rather to pay more attention when he types these things up.
are = is
No excuse this time; I just wasn’t paying attention to grammar.
I was thinking about how no matter how long the list of unlikely coincidences in Obama’s thin paper trail gets, the Moonbats will swallow it whole. Like widemouth bass swallowing a big juicy fly. Ditto Snopes. No matter how many strange discrepancies appear in Obama’s very limited paper trail, the Obots will never question their idol. In their minds, a small army of clerks, armed in some cases w singularly malfunctioning equipement, just happened to screw up on Obama’s records. Sure, the odds of all these issues showing up on one poor guy’s forms are astronomical. But so long as there’s a snowball’s chance in hell, the Moonbats will be onboard.
Glad I don’t have to check my brains at the door, to be an anti-Obot.
Now, on a related topic, I wonder what Freepers think about the alleged Obama Columbia student id that Snopes claims is a fraud. It says “foreign student” in bold letters at the bottom. Has anybody got a similar one from the same period? Snopes claims the number is lifted from somebody else’s id, but they have the credibility of a snake.
IMHO, this issue will never be settled unless Congress launches an investigation, and uses contempt charges on university academes and others who have the information, but won't cooperate without coercion. Romney and fellow RINOS would snuff that, unless public pressure overwhelms.
Personally, I believe it is a forgery, but it has not been proven in a court of law. Joe Arpaio's Cold Posse was not really an official law enforcement body. They were appointed by Arpaio at no cost to the government of Maricopa County or the state of Arizona. As far as I know, there have been no charges of criminality levied by anyone.
this isnt rocket science and does not require the high priests of the supreme court to figure out. it was common wording used around the world for centuries.
Sorry, but that and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. Again, to state the obvious, we have someone in the WH who has been deemed to be eligible to hold that office and is acting as the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief. He is exercising the authority of that office and no one in our government has questioned his right to sign laws, order troops into harms way, issue executive orders, etc. Until we resolve this in the courts, what you and I think means diddly squat. As I have stated, this needs to be resolved sooner rather than later for the reasons I cited.
How do these things become ‘off limits’ anyways? Is it self censorship or some real heat from the thugs? Rush said the BC has already been exhibited and it clearly has not. The current BC is only a computer generated forgery. Rush either did not know that or pretended not to know.
The numbers 042-68-4425 and 350-60-2302 were listed on past federal income tax returns filed by Barack and Michelle 0bama.
A few years back, I started getting FReepmails, all saying the same thing, "Rush is quoting you on the air", of course by the time I tuned in he had already gone to a different subject and I don't even remember what the quote was about but I do remember the feeling of being quite honored and realizing that he either lurks here or actually may have an account.
Speaking of Chicago: Remember Al Capone was not convicted of ALL the crimes he committed. They finally got him on income tax evasion......At this point we need to look at all facets of his life.....IOW: “What ever takes him down.”