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Obama's Conn. Social Security Number hits Rush
WND ^ | 5/7/2012 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 05/07/2012 12:42:10 PM PDT by GregNH

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To: GraceG; GregNH

Do not forget....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/19/obama-student-loan-case-p_n_651541.html


51 posted on 05/07/2012 1:51:34 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: kabar

“One should not make too much of the “geographical code.””

Yes, especially since they JUST did away with using it!

Nothing to see here!


52 posted on 05/07/2012 1:51:55 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I wonder why I don’t remember any of that.

If you figure out the answer to that, maybe it would also help explain why the heck I can't remember her screenname. She used to post on the Rush LIVE threads back in the day, keeping a mostly quiet profile. During the height of the bazillion Rush/drug threads being posted, she got real active for a brief spell trying to post replies on a lot of them. I used to keep an eye out for her screenname to see if she ever came back. But, after a time, I could no longer remember it.

53 posted on 05/07/2012 1:53:38 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: GraceG

I meant may not have been fraudulent if he was an Indo. citizen; of course he’s a fraudulent president in about a dozen ways.

They want to keep the bc a rodeo clown also to minimize the seriousness of the fact that both were forgeries. It is a big deal to them, because every single “fact” of his life is a lie.


54 posted on 05/07/2012 1:55:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: sten
Sorry, but it has never been resolved by the courts. Tribe and Olson are considered to be Constitutional scholars and both have been mentioned for possible future Justices on SCOTUS. They came to their own conclusion at the request of the Senate, which then issued a resolution stating that McCain was eligible.

How do I know it is not settled law? There is a guy in the WH who was not born of US citizen parents and has a birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii saying he was born there.

You and I can agrue what is the definition of natural born citizen as it applies to eligibility to be President under the Constitution, but we can't resolve it. Only the courts can do that and they have never been presented with this case.

I believe it has to be resolved sooner rather than later. We have 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies being born each year in this country to illegal alien parents. The are American citizens by virtue of jus solis. They can get a passport, receive all the various benefits, and vote when they reach 18. We also have an immigrant population of 40 million in this country with about 15 million being green card holders, not citizens. What is the status of their children re being eligible to be President? The sooner we can get this resolved the better.

55 posted on 05/07/2012 1:58:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Ben Mugged

Snopes really had to contort themselves for that one!


56 posted on 05/07/2012 1:58:27 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Ben Mugged
That's an interesting explanation. I wonder if Snopes used the zip code for obie's house in 1961 or as it is now in 2012. According to the Postal Service important historical dates, the ZIP Code and sectional center plan was (inconveniently) implemented in 1963
57 posted on 05/07/2012 1:58:58 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: bluecat6; GraceG
That link lead me to a search and I found this site. Going to do some research here later. See if any of these nine have talked. Eastern Iowa News
58 posted on 05/07/2012 2:00:01 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

That is right off of the SSA website—word for word. It is my understanding that Obama was 16 when he received his SSN, which would make it after 1971.


59 posted on 05/07/2012 2:00:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GregNH
If there is an edict out there that BC is off limits, and noticed Rush didn't address that, the SS number is not off limits. I think it is a better way to nail him anyway.

I think you underestimate the importance of Rush allowing a discussion of the Birth Certificate issue on his show. Millions of people who might know nothing of this controversy have now heard that just maybe there is an issue lurking concerning the legitimacy of the Obama Presidency.

And you are wrong in saying that Rush didn't address the BC issue. He challenged the caller with something like "Even Trump believes the BC is legit" but the more important fact is that he kept the discussion alive when he could have killed it dead, dead, dead. I view the SS issue as just some frosting on the BC cake.

Good for you Rush. You've made the Chicago gang a little bit more nervous than there were yesterday at this time.

60 posted on 05/07/2012 2:02:01 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: kabar

“How do I know it is not settled law? There is a guy in the WH who was not born of US citizen parents and has a birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii saying he was born there. “

umm.. no. the birth certificate has been proven to be a forgery by an official law enforcement body.

the left wanted him, as he’s as hard left as they could find... and they have disregarded the law, and the Constitution, to do it.

“You and I can agrue what is the definition of natural born citizen as it applies to eligibility to be President under the Constitution, but we can’t resolve it. Only the courts can do that and they have never been presented with this case.”

yea, because the Constitution was written so only the high priests would be able to divine its meaning. as for a case regarding his eligibility, it has popped up and was promptly shut down... as all similar cases have. it’s never allowed on the docket.

all those trying to state that being born on the soil is enough, always fail to explain why the founders deliberately changed the wording from citizen to natural born citizen. it was discussed in the federalist papers. they wanted to insure that no person taking the office had split allegiances, at least by birth.

this isn’t rocket science and does not require the high priests of the supreme court to figure out. it was common wording used around the world for centuries.


61 posted on 05/07/2012 2:08:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: GregNH
They don’t want us to see the grades.”

At worst, Obama was a C student, even if he didn't earn it. I doubt the libs at the colleges he went to had the nuggets to give him anything lower.

62 posted on 05/07/2012 2:08:30 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Ben Mugged

You have to love the ‘mis-typed’ zip code scenario. Another ‘dog ate the homework’ excuse.

Also remember the O’Reilly stated unequivocally that the reason for the CT SS number was that father Obama applied for it while at Harvard.

Of course what O’Reilly said was completely wrong for many reasons. But it shows the ‘excuses’ were varied on this until they found this one.

The zip code theory was born from Fogbow on their forum. No basis in fact. They just all agreed it would be ‘the story’ going forward.

http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/social-security-number/

From above:

“Most likely, this was due to a clerical error. At the time, President Obama was only 15 years old, and lived with his grandparents in an address on Beretania Street. The President’s house in Hawaii was in zip code 96814 and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814. Since the ‘0’ and ‘9’ on a typical typewriter are immediately adjacent (remember, the president’s Social Security number was issued in 1977, before the age of computers), it would have been a common error to accidently type a ‘0’ when the ZIP code really began with a ‘9’. Another possibility is that President Obama, a left-handed 15 year old boy at the time, may have written his own ZIP code in a less-than-fully-legible manner, making the ‘9’ look somewhat like an ‘0’.”

January 5, 2011 is when this theory came to life.

Here:

http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=198922&sid=de67ffb1170a89e8ba7c6e6d9f55ba0a#p198922

“Am I right in thinking that the typo hypothesis would be supported by any Zip code that begins with 960- through 969-, corresponding to CT’s range of 060-/069-? And aren’t all HA Zip codes in the 967-/968- range?

If that’s the case, why is Orly making a stink about a specific 5-digit code?

Edited to add:

In other words, wouldn’t any HA Zip code turn into a CT Zip code if the initial “9” (which they all have) were misread as a “0”?”

Everything on this theory comes from this January 5, 2011 post....


63 posted on 05/07/2012 2:08:55 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: lonevoice

Just out of curiosity, what was her FReeper screen name?


64 posted on 05/07/2012 2:10:34 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Ben Mugged

May I suggest that you try GoodSearch.com instead of Snopes or any other search engine? I find them very reliable, and quick.

Also, if you would like to list a charity with them, they donate a cople of pennies every time you use the site.


65 posted on 05/07/2012 2:10:52 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: GregNH; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; ...
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. . . . Article and comments.

Thanks, Greg.

66 posted on 05/07/2012 2:16:54 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: bluecat6

IIRC, and I am 56 years old, I had to present a copy of my BC and to fill out a form with my address. I did this at the SSA office in Boston. The card was issued on the spot. The only cards in that office would have only the regional code for that office. There can not be a clerical mistake. In fact IIRC we used to use just the last two digits of the zip code back then. I lived in Malden MA and I would of wrote 48 for my zip code. The zip code was irrelevant!


67 posted on 05/07/2012 2:18:32 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: bluecat6

The wrong zip code theory doesn’t fly.
They had to mail him the SS card. With wrong zip in the 70’s it would be returned to sender.


68 posted on 05/07/2012 2:19:38 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Ben Mugged
This ridiculous “clerical error” explanation was invented by the Obama people. It is made up out of thin air. There is no proof whatsoever that it happened. It is stupid and dishonest.

The Connecticut SS number was the number that had already been assigned to an elderly man. It was not a new number.

Obama never used the Connecticut SS# until the 1980’s. This was long after he had left Hawaii. During his earlier life and at Occidental College he had a SS# granted only to foreigners. He did not use this SS number at Occidental College, that is for certain.

Bill Ayers and other members of the Weather Underground and other leftist groups were taught to obtain fraudulent SS numbers and false identities. Ayers and Obama were in NYC together in the 1980’s. Though both claim to have met for the first time at a fund raiser for Obama’s political campaign at Ayers house in Chicago.

Ayers and Obama were both on the same boards of the Woods Foundation and the Annenberg Fund long before their supposed meeting. Obama was also seen at Ayers parent's house thanking them for their help.

The fake SS number was created for Obama in the 1980’s.

69 posted on 05/07/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by detective
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To: kabar

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

Area Number

The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.


70 posted on 05/07/2012 2:23:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: FES0844
I think Rush is a secret freeper.

You haven't been around here long enough, one of his staffers is.......

I'll give you an additional clue, how many times have you been active here on FR and heard Rush or Hannity in the background bringing up a topic that you just read or scrolled past?

71 posted on 05/07/2012 2:24:28 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: sten
we don’t need proof of his father being a US citizen... it’s well known he never was (a US citizen)

Only if you accept "Dreams From My Father" as proof of his progenitors. For all we know, his biological father may have been Malcolm X. It is thought that "Dreams" was written by Bill Ayers (an absolute fountainhead of truth!). In fact sans reliable documentation we do not even know for sure that Stanley Ann Dunham was Obama's mother...

This connivance to obliterate his background while elevating him to the pinnacle of American politics has been going on since well before his physical birth. To borrow a phrase, he is a "Made Man".

Take off the glaces and who do you see?

Regards,
GtG

72 posted on 05/07/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I remember one time hearing him say something almost word for word from one of my own comments on FR. But, I don’t think this is the case anymore.

Who can blame him?

73 posted on 05/07/2012 2:28:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: FortWorthPatriot
See post #53. I wish I could remember.
74 posted on 05/07/2012 2:37:00 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Ben Mugged

From Snopes:

“The most likely explanation”

******

Dear Snopes,

How about getting the facts instead of guessing?! Demand the jackass provide the answer like you would if it were a Republican/Conservative. There would be no guessing in that case and no defending and/or explaining something you can’t answer.


75 posted on 05/07/2012 2:37:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: GregNH

Megadittos, ElRushbo and crew....

“Welcome to the party, Pal”


76 posted on 05/07/2012 2:37:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; FES0844
...how many times have you been active here on FR and heard Rush or Hannity in the background bringing up a topic that you just read or scrolled past?

Or better yet realize they are paraphrasing a position you took.

77 posted on 05/07/2012 2:38:01 PM PDT by EBH (The redistribution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: FES0844
I think Rush is a secret freeper.

He blew his cover years ago when he used the term "barf alert" on his radio show!

78 posted on 05/07/2012 2:38:01 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: lonevoice

Thanks. I must have overlooked your comment in that post.


79 posted on 05/07/2012 2:41:31 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

You’re welcome. Sorry I couldn’t help more. :-)


80 posted on 05/07/2012 2:47:21 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: GregNH
Texas politicians are shamefully too afraid to make any waves.

I have to put my faith in Sheriff Joe.

81 posted on 05/07/2012 2:50:19 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: FES0844
Here is a picture of Bo Snerdly at the "Count the White House Silverware" party:

Photobucket

82 posted on 05/07/2012 2:52:47 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: GregNH
“That’s true,” said Limbaugh. “They don’t want [us] to see what those term papers, doctoral theses and so forth actually were about, nor do they want us to see the grades. They don’t want us to see the grades.”

I want to see what nationality he claimed and whether he used any public assistance when he enrolled in Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Where did an ice cream scooper get the money for all that?

83 posted on 05/07/2012 2:54:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: GregNH

Don’t ask, don’t tell, media style.

From a comment on Breitbart.com:

“I agree, but who has the power or guts to investigate him and strip him of his title, try him for treason (which should be done) and throw his fraudlent a** in prison? I think they are all afraid of the same thing happening to them that happened to Andrew Brietbart and his coroner who was mysteriously poisoned to death!

(Edited by a moderator)”


84 posted on 05/07/2012 2:58:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TigersEye
ice cream scooper

Has anyone researched to find out if there was even Baskins & Robbins in HI near where he lived?

85 posted on 05/07/2012 3:01:54 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Ben Mugged

‘From Snopes:

Why Barack Obama’s Social Security card application might have included a Connecticut mailing address is something of a curiosity, as he had no known connection to that state at the time, but by itself that quirk is no indicator of fraud. The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since ‘0’ and ‘9’ are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it’s not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident’s application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut).’

I suppose you also believe the date stamp just happened to malfunction the day poor Little-why’s-everybody-always-picking-on-me-Barry registered for the draft?

The number of sheer, wild, staggering coincidences in this Fraud’s life are...incredible.


86 posted on 05/07/2012 3:02:44 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: combat_boots

The penalty for Treason is death. There has not even been anyone tried for treason in this country since sometime in the 50’s. Because if there had been, we wouldn’t have these traitorous creatures totally infiltrated in our Government!


87 posted on 05/07/2012 3:05:27 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: GregNH

Oh, yeah, that’s been confirmed. He did work at the B&R in HI for a few weeks one summer.


88 posted on 05/07/2012 3:06:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: detective

From this article the first apparent use of the SS # was 1986 in Chicago.

http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/another_look_at_obamas.htm

“Other than the 1980 Selective Service registration, the first time Daniels could find Obama using the “042” number was in 1986 in Chicago.”

I also always liked the fact that Ayers & Co. were stealing SS # in NYC at the Baby Boutique. Of course what state is next to NYC - Connecticut.


89 posted on 05/07/2012 3:06:43 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Fantasywriter

Yeah. They should tell Dan Rather to pay more attention when he types these things up.


90 posted on 05/07/2012 3:13:08 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Fantasywriter

are = is

No excuse this time; I just wasn’t paying attention to grammar.

I was thinking about how no matter how long the list of unlikely coincidences in Obama’s thin paper trail gets, the Moonbats will swallow it whole. Like widemouth bass swallowing a big juicy fly. Ditto Snopes. No matter how many strange discrepancies appear in Obama’s very limited paper trail, the Obots will never question their idol. In their minds, a small army of clerks, armed in some cases w singularly malfunctioning equipement, just happened to screw up on Obama’s records. Sure, the odds of all these issues showing up on one poor guy’s forms are astronomical. But so long as there’s a snowball’s chance in hell, the Moonbats will be onboard.

Glad I don’t have to check my brains at the door, to be an anti-Obot.


91 posted on 05/07/2012 3:17:00 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: GregNH
Snopes’ attempted explanation fails because the number belonged to Jean Paul Ludwig, whose estate was settled in a Hawaiian court where Obama’s grandmother worked. He had no heirs who would need to use the number for benefits. Circumstantial evidence strongly suggests she lifted the number on behalf of the little illegal alien grandchild, fully expecting nobody would ever notice.

Now, on a related topic, I wonder what Freepers think about the alleged Obama Columbia student id that Snopes claims is a fraud. It says “foreign student” in bold letters at the bottom. Has anybody got a similar one from the same period? Snopes claims the number is lifted from somebody else’s id, but they have the credibility of a snake.

IMHO, this issue will never be settled unless Congress launches an investigation, and uses contempt charges on university academes and others who have the information, but won't cooperate without coercion. Romney and fellow RINOS would snuff that, unless public pressure overwhelms.

92 posted on 05/07/2012 3:19:04 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: GregNH

93 posted on 05/07/2012 3:21:48 PM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: sten
umm.. no. the birth certificate has been proven to be a forgery by an official law enforcement body.

Personally, I believe it is a forgery, but it has not been proven in a court of law. Joe Arpaio's Cold Posse was not really an official law enforcement body. They were appointed by Arpaio at no cost to the government of Maricopa County or the state of Arizona. As far as I know, there have been no charges of criminality levied by anyone.

this isn’t rocket science and does not require the high priests of the supreme court to figure out. it was common wording used around the world for centuries.

Sorry, but that and a buck will get you a cup of coffee. Again, to state the obvious, we have someone in the WH who has been deemed to be eligible to hold that office and is acting as the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief. He is exercising the authority of that office and no one in our government has questioned his right to sign laws, order troops into harms way, issue executive orders, etc. Until we resolve this in the courts, what you and I think means diddly squat. As I have stated, this needs to be resolved sooner rather than later for the reasons I cited.

94 posted on 05/07/2012 3:45:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GregNH

How do these things become ‘off limits’ anyways? Is it self censorship or some real heat from the thugs? Rush said the BC has already been exhibited and it clearly has not. The current BC is only a computer generated forgery. Rush either did not know that or pretended not to know.


95 posted on 05/07/2012 3:47:43 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: zeestephen; GregNH; BP2; LucyT

The numbers 042-68-4425 and 350-60-2302 were listed on past federal income tax returns filed by Barack and Michelle 0bama.


96 posted on 05/07/2012 3:49:05 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: wolfcreek; LucyT
“An investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) has been illegally used by Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, emigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 in or about March, 1977.”



Jean Paul Ludwig
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1890
Death Date: 19 Jun 1981
Death Place: San Luis Obispo, CA
SSN: 045-26-8722
97 posted on 05/07/2012 3:56:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: GregNH
Oh he definately lurks here. His brother is a FRiend too.

A few years back, I started getting FReepmails, all saying the same thing, "Rush is quoting you on the air", of course by the time I tuned in he had already gone to a different subject and I don't even remember what the quote was about but I do remember the feeling of being quite honored and realizing that he either lurks here or actually may have an account.

98 posted on 05/07/2012 3:57:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Missouri gal
Snopes’ attempted explanation fails because the number belonged to Jean Paul Ludwig, whose estate was settled in a Hawaiian court where Obama’s grandmother worked.

Wrong!
99 posted on 05/07/2012 4:01:48 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: InterceptPoint

Speaking of Chicago: Remember Al Capone was not convicted of ALL the crimes he committed. They finally got him on income tax evasion......At this point we need to look at all facets of his life.....IOW: “What ever takes him down.”


100 posted on 05/07/2012 4:08:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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