Posted on 05/07/2012 2:32:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
I’m not cutting any politician any slack when they pass laws & treaties that are too big to read. “Too big to read? Reject it!” should be the SOP, not “Well, I’ll support it and hope for the best.”
Burying us under a snowdrift of paper is not acceptable, and word needs to get out.
I guess China wasn't one of them.
Recently Inhofe changed his position and now supports LOST because of events in the South China Sea.
We already have examples of how China intends to disregard this treaty.
This treaty is a direct threat to our national security because it will require US submarines to cruise on the surface in locations where it is very hazardous to do so, such as the Straits of Gibraltar, or Hormuz. LOST is also backdoor Global Warming regulation.
How does that help US national security oh you regulatory government lover you?
And?
They have changed the original a gazillion times since then.
Please grow a brain
TT
This may be bigger than Obama Care ... it would be harder to undo.
TT
There are so many bad laws, that Legislators knew were bad and turned them down. What they then do is come back year after year , after year and reintroduce them until they finally do pass.
Kindly piss off. And I mean that sincerely.
It’s true, they do. And the only way to stop it is to vote out the fools that consider it. But if you round up 100 people and ask them, maybe 5 will know what LOST is an acronym for. And three will think it’s a good idea if you ask them the “right” way.
A wounded traitor is a dangerous traitor. Lame ducks are not dead ducks.
They had the same agreement back in 2010 when the Senate ratified the START treaty
Meanwhile, the NeoCons are thinking that if they can get Lugar unelected, then Lugar's chairmanship on the Senate Foreign Relations committee is open and maybe they can get Rubio into that chair to block LOST.
The Constitution says treaties are ratified "provided two thirds of Senators present concur." Hence, by the Constitution, LOST could in theory be ratified by three Senators. Treaties have been ratified with no record of a quorum on a voice vote.
They had the same agreement back in 2010 when the Senate ratified the START treaty
Lugar's parting will be ugly.
Meanwhile, the NeoCons are thinking that if they can get Lugar unelected, then Lugar's chairmanship on the Senate Foreign Relations committee is open and maybe they can get Rubio into that chair to block LOST.
Opposition to LOST is not simply from "NeoCons" and you know it.
Helms wouldn't let it out of committee. Lugar got it out of committee, but Bill Frist wouldn't let it onto the floor.
Biden and Reid are supporters but they didn't do anything in 2007 and 2008
Kerry and Reid are supporters but they haven't done anything in 2009 thru the present
There are probably enough votes in the Senate to ratify but it would pass very narrowly. The dems are not going to bring this up unless senate republican leadership guarantees that they have enough republican votes such that it would broadly pass with say 80 votes or 84 votes. The dems want it to pass on bi-partisan votes so the GOP can't club them
Red Steel --- Listen to video. It is unclear to me that all you mentioned is covered in LOST. I may be wrong, but below is partial transcript. I think he and Hannity were discussing several treaties. They both talk so fast and over one another, I can't be sure. What a pair! lol
Nevertheless, critical info to keep an eye on. They will try to pass these treaties in a similar manner as they did Obamacare (invisably, if possible, and by any deceptive means necessary).
Morris discusses here:
Dick Morris on FOX's Hannity on May 7, 2012 --- video: 6 minutes
Believes "Obama is going to sign a series of treaties (and get them passed by a lame-duck session) which would bind US hand and foot for decades."
"...US is obliged to share half of its royalies from oil and mineral drilling out to 200 miles with a newly created UN-based "Sea Bed Authority, " which will distribute the money as it wishes (US would have 1 vote out of 160) to 160 nations."
"The same Sea Bed Authority may take action to prevent pollution of the ocean (including THERMAL pollution). This authority could ban carbon emissions in the US so we don't heat up ocean."
Is to be ratified in June because Lugar, a chief proponent, wanted to get through his primary before he had to defend LOST.
Hannity & Morris continue to discuss several other nightmare treaties (all discussed in Morris' book below). I imagine Morris is going to make a book promo interview tour. If you see any other interviews by him, please ping me (I will do likewise.).
As to this...
Believes "Obama is going to sign a series of treaties (and get them passed by a lame-duck session) which would bind US hand and foot for decades."
Abiding by a treaty pursuant to signature is illegal, but it is what the DOS has us doing as a matter of "customary international law." The ratification process however, is a serious threat, and not at all the "two thirds of the Senate" threshold commonly believed. For background on these distinctions, see this article.
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