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See, I Told You So: Football in Trouble
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | May 7, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/07/2012 2:33:57 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Grab audio sound bite number 24. Snerdley, listen to this. This is ABC's This Week. It's the roundtable on Sunday. Jacob Tapper was sitting in for George Stephanopoulos, who's sitting in for -- or no. Stephanopoulos, I guess, is permanent now. And Jake Tapper says to George Will, "George, is football in trouble, or is this just the media making a muck?"

WILL: It's in trouble for two reasons. First of all: The human body is not built for the violence that is inherent in football at the highest level. Second: People are gonna watch football differently from now on because they're gonna feel a little bit like the speculators in the Colosseum in Rome, watching people sacrificed for their entertainment with a kind of violence that is unseemly.

RUSH: Told you. Tooooold you. Folks, this is gonna happen faster than I thought. Maybe not an outright ban of the game, but I guarantee you this is gonna happen faster than I thought. It's funny for me. I read a lot of NFL blogs, and they're mostly written by typical liberal media types -- and these guys don't know what they're doing. As they write about this, they are paving the way for fundamental structural changes in this game that will make it not football, while they think they're doing compassionate stories.

For example, they're asking for federal commissions on concussions, "and we'd better have mandatory counseling for every player who retires otherwise they're all gonna commit suicide. For two reasons: A, all the head trauma; and B, people stop cheering for them, and their lives immediately turn meaningless. Every one of them." It's amazing to read this stuff. And I'm sure these guys all think that they're writing and positing with great compassion.

But they are paving the way for people who want to take the risk out of life to move in on football. There was a story by the author Friday Night Lights, "Buzz" Bissinger. He had a piece over the weekend, I think might have been the Wall Street Journal: "Why College Football Should Be Banned." Ban it! It loses money for most universities. It does not emphasize academics. It's nothing more than an unpaid minor league system for the NFL. Get rid of college football! I'm telling you: This is a groundswell now.

And I told you. I told you.

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RUSH: Let me tell how this is gonna work, this NFL stuff, and you'll recognize this the minute I remind you of it. It's gonna start this season. With all this attention now to the concussions, the head injuries, the brutality of the game, all the focus on this stuff -- and, you know, with the suicide of Junior Seau and the study of brains. Other players, David Duerson and some others, have committed suicide this year. With so much attention focused on this, the first game of the season...

Which is gonna be a Wednesday night. It's September 5th, I believe. I'm not sure of the day. It's the Wednesday night before Obama accepts the nomination. I wonder how many people will show up at that one? He announced his campaign over the weekend and barely half of a 20,000 seat arena was filled. More on that in due course. Oh, you hear Tom Brokaw says it's time to rethink the White House Correspondents Dinner? It doesn't look good for members of the press to be seen drinking Cristal Champagne on camera. Members of the media are drifting too far away from the audience, from the people they are supposed to be covering the news for. I'll have more on that as the program unfolds.

You remember when the SUV thing first started 1996? The Sierra Club called to ban the SUV. They said it caused global warming. Global warming itself! After a while, every unseasonably warm day at whatever time of year, didn't your first thought go to either, "Wow, global warming. Maybe it's true," or some consciousness on your part that somebody was gonna say that? It's the same with various food warnings. People have said that coffee causes heart attacks.

You see somebody ordering coffee and you say, "No, no, no! Don't drink that." Everybody gets all uptight. It doesn't take much for people to get caught up in this stuff. So the first injury that is seen on national TV in a football game this coming season, you watch: The discussions of the brutality of the game and the potential damage to a father (a player, a father) who, in his retirement, wakes up one day and doesn't know the name of his kids. That will be a story, and it will be because of football, and the consciousness raising will have already taken place, and there will be a groundswell.

George Will is right. People are gonna start watching the game and the casual fan is gonna feel guilty as heck watching the game when there's a serious injury and say, "Why did they let that happen? Why don't they do something about that? Why don't they make that illegal?" I'm telling you, folks, the day's come. The people who make a living off the game are in the process of killing it, and they don't know that yet. They think they're doing a good thing here. Their intentions are honorable, just like Lyndon Johnson's, although I doubt his were.

I don't think LBJ did the Civil Rights Act with good intentions.

I really don't. In fact, LBJ said as much. LBJ was like FDR. "I'm locking up the black vote for the Democrat Party for the rest of time with this legislation." FDR said, "I'm locking up the welfare and the poverty vote for the Democrat Party for the rest of time with the New Deal." Everybody wants to praise great, compassion and wonderful intentions, but it's all political. The motives are all political. And it's the same thing here with the sportswriters. They have to show compassion. They have to look like they care. Yet they have to cover the brutality of the game.

They have to support the game. The game is their livelihood, the game is their living. They don't know it, but they are paving the way for its end. And it's gonna happen sooner than I thought. I thought it wouldn't happen in my lifetime. Probably still won't. But you watch the pressure brought to bear this season. It's not conspiratorial. This is just gonna be the result of inertia. It's gonna be a tidal wave. Nobody's gonna be able to stop it. Somebody who tries to talk sense in the middle of this is gonna be shouted down, laughed at, thought to be insensitive or cruel or what have you.

This guy, "Buzz" Bissinger: "Why College Football Should Be Banned." Ban it? And his reasons are numerous. The last reasons he mentions in his piece happens to be the physical dangers. His primary reason is the game's a fraud. There aren't any student athletes. There's too much time required to play football. These guys don't go to class. Everybody knows that. And then most of these programs don't make money for the schools. The only reason football's a big deal is because the quality of the school is determined by the quality of the team.

I mean, who would care about Oklahoma if it weren't for the football team, this guy's point is, and the boosters and so forth. So the move is all over the place to get rid of the game. And in large part the people behind getting rid of game, whether they know it or not... Some of it is activist libs. I think it's libs behind this. They are behind most things like this. But it's people who want to take the risk out of everything, take the danger out of everything. "It's just not right. Civilized people should not be engaging in this kind of brutal behavior! It's the Roman Colosseum. Those days are in the past. We shouldn't be doing this kind of thing!"

It's gonna happen.

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RUSH: From the Chicago Tribune, quote: "The Bone-Shattering Truth: US Football is Doomed." From the Kansas City Star: "How Many More Deaths Can NFL Fans Take?" I kid you not. You didn't believe me. You thought, just like when I warned you people they were coming after SUVs, "Ah, here goes Rush! Football is one of his personal passions and he's scared about it. But, eh, they'll never ban it! Too much money." Look at the groundswell already. Chicago Tribune: "The Bone-Shattering Truth: US Football is Doomed." George Will (paraphrased): "Hey, it's no different than Roman Colosseum days. It's barbaric. We don't have this anymore in America."

It's spiraling out of control much, much faster than even I, El Rushbo, thought that it would. And now it has an inertia and a momentum all its own.

There's probably no stopping this.

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RUSH: Some people think I'm wrong on this football stuff when I say that it is spinning out of control. "No, Rush, it's not spinning 'out of' control. It is being spun 'into' control," and that might be true. I still maintain to you there are people who are engineering what could well be disaster for the sport. Well, for the industry, the National Football League, who don't know they're doing it. Then there are others who do know they are doing it.

Don't misunderstand. There are basically two or three kinds of people involved here. You got the wusses, you got the people who have played the game, and then you've got innocent bystanders -- and the wusses want to get rid of it. The people who have played the game want to hold onto it and the innocent bystanders are the ones that are gonna be swayed by the wusses. And I do mean that. And then you've got these well-intentioned liberal sports writers, as I say.

It's the last time I'm gonna say it, but it's important enough to say. They don't know it. I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt because I don't think they want to write themselves out of work. I don't think they want to write themselves out of jobs, but they are paving the way for this game to be done away with, fundamentally changed, what have you. Because they're liberals. They don't know any better. They think they're taking the compassionate, well-reasoned, well-thought-out side and all this.

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1 posted on 05/07/2012 2:33:59 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Who needs football when you can have “Hunger Games, the Series”?


2 posted on 05/07/2012 2:37:03 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin
Never happen here in the south...we would succeed from the union over giving up college and pro football
3 posted on 05/07/2012 2:46:34 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Kaslin

Well, if the wusses/libs say that some things are just too dangerous then I guess I’ll just have to go to the bedroom, curl up in a fetal position and never come out of the bedroom ever again. Of course, I’ll have to move the computer, refrigerator and stove to the bedroom. Oh, but they won’t fit! Oops! And electricity is dangrous. What a conundrum! /sarc

IDIOTS! Where does it end?


4 posted on 05/07/2012 2:59:44 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: nevergore

Man, it never ends......


5 posted on 05/07/2012 3:01:04 PM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: Kaslin
As with Tailhook (and maybe this time people on the right will get it) there are times when the indefensible really does need to be defended against something that is far worse and inherently evil and destructive. For Tailhook it was the destruction of the Warrior Ethos of the Navy Air Arm by the feminazis for NFL it is a the advance of progressive pansification of the culture.
6 posted on 05/07/2012 3:04:15 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Kaslin

Minorities hit hardest.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 3:04:31 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: robowombat; All
As with Tailhook (and maybe this time people on the right will get it) there are times when the indefensible really does need to be defended against something that is far worse and inherently evil and destructive. For Tailhook it was the destruction of the Warrior Ethos of the Navy Air Arm by the feminazis for NFL it is a the advance of progressive pansification of the culture.

Outstanding post. It was about "de-b@!!ing" our Templar Knights, i.e. our Naval Aviators. Yes I believe that analogy is valid.

This is about the further diminishing of men in our culture. The saddest part is it is one arena where Americans of African decent excel and often get into business post their careers, especially franchises such as auto. This is one segment where more positive role models are needed, especially after what the Great Society did to their families. Now that door will close? Never-mind sharing the wealth, this will prohibit these Men from obtaining it via their individual exceptional-ism. We can't have stand outs with the "Community Garden" and the "Collective"...

Michelle meant itt; "Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we're going to have to change our traditions, our history; we're going to have to move into a different place as a nation."

But don't get ahead of yourself Michelle, I can see November from my house and Submission has not been accomplished.

8 posted on 05/07/2012 3:24:41 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Kaslin

I wouldn’t walk across the street to see any football game ever played.


9 posted on 05/07/2012 3:28:33 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Kaslin

T-football is coming.

Players will carefully run from one end of the field or the other one at a time to a football set on a pedestal. The team with the fasted combined times will take possession of the ball. That team will then walk toward their endzone as the other team tries to talk them out of scoring. Law students will moderate the discussion.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 3:30:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

No it will be “Philosophy Football”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79vdlEcWxvM


11 posted on 05/07/2012 3:35:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: cripplecreek

...and everyone gets a trophy.


12 posted on 05/07/2012 3:35:52 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: OldPossum

I’m not a football fan either but if somebody paid me what some players make I could learn.

I’m a baseball fan and I’m surprised they haven’t forced all the players and umps to wear helmets yet. Its kinda funny that a base runner must have his helmet as he stands on base next to the baseman who doesn’t have to wear one.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 3:36:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

and a hug.


14 posted on 05/07/2012 3:41:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin; Perdogg; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

Do we know for a fact Seau’s suicide had anything to do with concussions?


15 posted on 05/07/2012 3:41:23 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Not yet.


16 posted on 05/07/2012 3:42:34 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin
[Rush] I still maintain to you there are people who are engineering what could well be disaster for the sport. Well, for the industry, the National Football League, who don't know they're doing it. Then there are others who do know they are doing it.

I've always thought that people up East thought that having their kids play rugby, lacrosse, and soccer was a way to one-up the suburban kids -- the ones who were going to hold doors for their kids, say "yes sir" to their kids, get coffee and so on.

The popularization of soccer in particular has been a very RiNO/DiNO thing, a very UMC thing. And the growth of rugby and lacrosse has always been an Ivy League/liberal art school phenomenon, or at least I've thought so.

17 posted on 05/07/2012 3:46:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
<Slightly OT>

Bill Bennett on "Morning in America" told on a woman he was conversing with last week in a group of suburban DC parents. The woman was enthusiastic about her kid's preschool, because, she said, "It's a feeder for Princeton."

Preschool. Princeton. Yeah, right. <Bennett guffawing>

18 posted on 05/07/2012 3:49:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Impy
Do we know for a fact Seau’s suicide had anything to do with concussions?

Nope, and we never will.
19 posted on 05/07/2012 3:51:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

Football is not going to get banned. But it won’t be as prominent in the future. We’ll see less White kids and Black kids from middle to upper classes playing football. Talent is going to dry up. Just like boxing. Sure, boxing is still around. It’s just not as big as it used to be when Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali were in their prime.


20 posted on 05/07/2012 3:53:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Kaslin

I wonder how the suicide rate of the NFL compares to the suicide rate of the US.


21 posted on 05/07/2012 3:54:03 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Impy
We don't know why Seau did it, and may never know with certainty. There will be an autopsy to determine if his brain was damaged.

Wikipedia says:

Though Seau "was never listed on an NFL injury report as having had a concussion", Seau's ex-wife Gina told the Associated Press after Seau's death that Seau sustained concussions during his career. "'Of course he had [sustained them]. He always bounced back and kept on playing.'" she said.

But if it wasn't his death that put this in the spotlight it would have been somebody else's.

22 posted on 05/07/2012 3:55:34 PM PDT by x
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To: OldPossum

I have the exact same mindset.


23 posted on 05/07/2012 3:57:06 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Kaslin
Been there done that already.

How Teddy Roosevelt Saved Football

"History is repeating itself. For whatever issues football has today, they are nothing like the controversy it experienced a little more than a century ago. Back then, injuries were an afterthought — it was the deaths that concerned people. In 1905, there were 18 of them, occurring everywhere from the college gridiron to neighborhood sandlots.

Horrified by the slaughter, a group of progressives crusaded to ban football. They formed a social and political movement whose ranks included the renowned Harvard President Charles W. Eliot, frontier scholar Frederick Jackson Turner, aging Confederate Gen. John Mosby and muckraking journalists."

24 posted on 05/07/2012 4:03:38 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: lentulusgracchus

Please don’t lump in Rugby with soccer. Rugby is a sport of equally vicious hits as football, a true team mentality, manliness, and more nationalism and country pride than ANY liberal could ever handle.


25 posted on 05/07/2012 4:07:58 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmzWVjOlqYE


26 posted on 05/07/2012 4:09:40 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: The Black Knight
I'm on slow-rate (26K) dialup .... can't stream anything. Sorry. Tks, tho'.
27 posted on 05/07/2012 4:12:04 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

one of the few times Rush was so boring I turned him off in the first hour.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: The Black Knight
Rugby is a sport of equally vicious hits as football, a true team mentality, manliness, and more nationalism and country pride than ANY liberal could ever handle.

I know, but its appearance in the Ivies suggests that it has gazoot here in the States as a classier, class-proclamatory "non-football football", a way of saying "I'm better than football, football players will spend their lives as my lackeys, aaahahahaaaa!" Or words to that effect. Well, maybe that's Dad talking, who knows.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 4:14:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
And of course I know it's not like that in the Old Country, or Down Under ..... where Australian Rules has never been about social one-upmanship.

I'm just saying that that is being done here in the States -- with everything. Computer camps for kids, "feeders for Princeton", and all that.

30 posted on 05/07/2012 4:16:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cripplecreek

there is a decent reason for that. The vast majority of plays involving a base runner going from second to third and third to home, involved a throw coming from behind him. People were getting beaned from behind, it’s not a fear of them getting hit as it comes off the bat as much as it is they get hit on a throw.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 4:17:08 PM PDT by HenryArmitage (it was not meant that we should voyage far.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

No problem. I have had the absolute joy of being deployed around some Brits during some of the major rugby tournaments. You could probably hear them screaming back in London. Listening to them belt out their anthem with such pride before matches is truly something to be a part of. Wish we did that, too, instead of letting whatever pop princess is popular at the time get her publicity time before our sporting events.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 4:19:39 PM PDT by The Black Knight (What would John Rambo do?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Football will never lose a fan base. If anything, we will become more rabid. Im not a pro fan. I prefer college. But diehards will not allow this sport to go to hell. A great portion of america lives for football. Their lives are based on travelling, tailgating, and attending games.


33 posted on 05/07/2012 4:21:16 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: The Black Knight
than ANY liberal could ever handle. You do know that BJ Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Che Guevara played rugby, right?
34 posted on 05/07/2012 4:25:25 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: taildragger

That is exactly what this is about.


35 posted on 05/07/2012 4:31:47 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: The Black Knight
Please don’t lump in Rugby with soccer. Rugby is a sport of equally vicious hits as football, a true team mentality, manliness, and more nationalism and country pride than ANY liberal could ever handle.

Maybe in New Zealand and the islands in that part of the world. In the US, it's a snob's game -- "elegant violence," etc.

Even in Britain, it's soccer ("football") that's everyman's game. Rugby may be a rougher game, but a lot of ordinary Brits really loathe it.

36 posted on 05/07/2012 4:39:08 PM PDT by x
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To: Kaslin

For how the NFL treated Rush, the thugs(players), the “R” rated commercials during the Super Bowl and the overall liberal tilt of most of the owners. Let them try. At least they would be eating their own.


37 posted on 05/07/2012 4:49:05 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: goseminoles

At one time, boxing was the most popular sport in America. That changed. As Gregg easterbrook likes to say, there is no rule that the NFL has to be popular.

This is a serious issue for football. It has to figure out a way to eliminate concussions or it will be marginalized as a sport.


38 posted on 05/07/2012 5:02:22 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: MinorityRepublican

Agreed. Knowing what we know now, my kids won’t play football. And when you have people like Kurt Warner saying that his kids won’t play football, there is a problem for football.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 5:04:26 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Naw ... boxing has just sucked the last 20 yrs. Otherwise, they would have been required to wear helmets. The sport lacks personality and competition..


40 posted on 05/07/2012 5:16:54 PM PDT by goseminoles
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HUDDLE UP!

The Place for Conservatives
We have some elections to win!



41 posted on 05/07/2012 5:33:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Kaslin

I haven’t watched or participated in a football game since roughly 1968, but even I know this is not a good thing.


42 posted on 05/07/2012 5:45:12 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: King Moonracer

Minorities and baby mamas hit the hardest


43 posted on 05/07/2012 5:47:46 PM PDT by winodog
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To: goseminoles

Helmets are required for amateur boxing, including the Olympics. My guess is that the only reason that they aren’t required for professional boxing is that there are too many governing bodies.

But Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones? There is plenty of competition, but people aren’t interested.

Anyway, look: I have been a football fan, but these issues have left me with a less than favorable impression of the game. I dont have an interest in supporting a game that causes permanent, long-lasting injuries, particularly when damage can be done at high school and collegiate levels, where players may not have an appropriate understanding of the risks.


44 posted on 05/07/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
Agreed. Knowing what we know now, my kids won?t play football. And when you have people like Kurt Warner saying that his kids won?t play football, there is a problem for football.

My parents didn't allow me and two of my brothers play football while we were growing up. And that was before we knew all about long term effects of concussions on our brains.

45 posted on 05/07/2012 6:00:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Publius Valerius

I agree. Consulting adults have a choice. This is the basis of America.


46 posted on 05/07/2012 6:03:17 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Consensual..


47 posted on 05/07/2012 6:04:09 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Publius Valerius
This is a serious issue for football. It has to figure out a way to eliminate concussions or it will be marginalized as a sport.

I read an interesting article on a "economics of sports" blog. The failure of the NFL will begin with parents not allowing their kids to play peewee. The NFL needs to jump on this, if it intends to continue as a viable franchise.

48 posted on 05/07/2012 6:05:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kaslin

Every time James Harrison gets fined for a clean hit, I get a concussion! Football is killin me, I think it’s Indirect PTSD.


49 posted on 05/07/2012 6:42:26 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: OldPossum

I’m with you almost 100%. If someone gave me free
Superbowl tickets I WOULD walk across the street to scalp them for an obscene amount of cash.


50 posted on 05/07/2012 6:50:34 PM PDT by allblues
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