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Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically. He calls Him Father, He prays to Him. We are to pray to Him,, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.

God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended. Three seperate entities/Gods. A simliar experience occurred at the mount of transfiguration. The martyr Stephen saw Christ sitting next to God, he didn’t say He saw Christ and God sitting as one on the throne, Christ was on the Father’s right hand, seperate.

Mary concieved Christ miraculously through the power of the Holy Ghpst, and was God’s son. That is what the Church teaches. How that occurred is something the Church does not have an official position on other than it was miraculous through the power of the Holy Spirit. Some people have reflected and contemplated about it...but those apparently were their opinions.

Regarding your third question, read my witness, linked below, at the end, I address this issue directly, it is posted here on FR...but go there...and anyone else, and read it.

We teach that Jesus Christ, at the direction of God the Father, restored His church through the prophet Jospeh Smith. So, if He had not done that, there would be no LDS Church. We teach that Jesus Christ will be our Judge. He alone will pass final judgement. He alone atoned for our sins. Jospeh Smith, as a Prophet and Apostle of Jesus Christ will have the same role as the other Apostles, like Peter, James, and John...whatever that may be.

But the final Judge is Jesus Christ.

The third person in the Godhead is the Holy Spiirit, who is a distinct seperate individual God whose specific purpose is to convey truth to the hearts of men...that is why He has remained a spirit this entire time, to fulfill His calling from God the Father until God’s children have all been born, gone through life, and been judged for their mortal existance.

My Witness for Jesus Christ
http://www.jeffhead.com/jlhwitness.htm

Have a great evening...and may God bless this land and her people, that we can return to Him, stand for Him and His Son, and turn our nation around with their help...and particularly throw off this evil administration that is currently in office.

II Chron 7:14

mormonism teaches that Joseph Smith will sit with the lds jesus and decide who gets into the one of the celestial levels of lds heaven.
mormonism teaches that the lds god had intercourse with Mary to conceive the lds jesus.
mormonism teaches that the lds jesus is created not eternal.
Sources can be provided again, as they have been before by many.

Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically. He calls Him Father, He prays to Him.

Three seperate entities/Gods.

That is what the Church teaches.

It also 'teaches' that the Father has a physical body, too.

Strange THAT was omitted, but at least you were straightforward on the 3 gods teaching.

The third person in the Godhead is the Holy Spiirit, who is a distinct seperate individual God whose specific purpose is to convey truth to the hearts of men

O...
K...

Jospeh Smith, as a Prophet and Apostle of Jesus Christ will have the same role as the other Apostles, like Peter, James, and John...whatever that may be.

Whatever?

Seems like there has been some LDS leaders who have made comments on this:

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

He alone will pass final judgement.

HMMmm...

We teach that Jesus Christ, at the direction of God the Father, restored His church through the prophet Jospeh Smith.

Indeed it does...

KJV

Galatians 1:6-9

6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

ANYBODY???

Like this fine looking fellow???

2 Corinthians 11:12-15

12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Like THESE guys??

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

Ephesians 2:1-2

1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

One last question:

Does The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints teach that it’s members are Christians?

“Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically. He calls Him Father, He prays to Him. We are to pray to Him,, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.

God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended. Three seperate entities/Gods. A simliar experience occurred at the mount of transfiguration. The martyr Stephen saw Christ sitting next to God, he didn’t say He saw Christ and God sitting as one on the throne, Christ was on the Father’s right hand, seperate.”...

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Jeff, I appreciate your reply. There were five statements
about Moromonism. You replied to four with one a direction
to your words in your testimony at the link.

Trinitarian belief is not up in the air for anyone to believe as they wish. It is basic belief required for all Christians. This is why the Church does not recognize Mormon Baptism because of the Mormon rejection of the Trinity. Water Baptism said in the name of the Trinity is not an option either, it is a requirement for salvation. God is so loving, maybe, the Baptism of desire covers you all.

YES MORMONISM TEACHES THAT THE LDS JESUS WAS CREATED, NOT ETERNAL.

Jesus states “I AM” in Scripture, He is saying I am God, always was, always will be. Jesus is fully God and fully man. He is consubstantial which means “one in being” the same essence, substance as the Father.

You stated it three times in the full post, Jesus is the Son of God, never once did you say He is God.