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What Will Ron Paul Do? (Libertarian Johnson Pulling Votes from Romney)
The Stone Zone ^ | 4 Apr 12 | Roger Stone

Posted on 05/08/2012 6:42:13 AM PDT by xzins

WHAT WILL RON PAUL DO? By Roger Stone

In 1977 as Treasurer of the National Conservative Political Action Committee, I went to Houston Texas to work in the Special Election campaign of Ron Paul, the first time he was elected to Congress. I have long admired his faith in and consistent support of the US Constitution and the proper limits of government. I have also always admired his willingness to go against the grain and sometimes tell the unpopular truth.

Congress Paul was a little disingenuous when he told the Washington Post that he would decide about an independent candidacy for President after the votes are counted at the National Republican Convention in Tampa. Congressman Paul knows full well that the Libertarian Party will choose it's likely nominee, former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, at their May Convention in Las Vegas. The Libertarian Party nominee will be on the ballot in all 50 states as they were in 2008.

Paul has clearly committed himself to attending and participating in the Republican Party Convention in August. Americans Elect will have designated their nominee who could also very well have ballot access in 50 states by June precluding another national ballot position from the Texas Congressman. Ron Paul knows full well that an effort to achieve 50 state ballot access - or anything like it - launched after the Republican National Convention is not legally, organizationally or financially feasible. Even Paul guru Lew Rockwell would admit this.

In truth, Congressman Paul had his son's aspirations and place in the Republican establish hierarchy in mind when he decided not to pursue a third-party candidacy in 2012. Rand Paul clear;y has his own Presidential ambitions but a 2016 US Senate re-election and Kentucky's early filing deadline may make this problematic.

Here is Ron Paul's dilemma. He cannot endorse Mitt Romney without destroying the very essence of what Ron Paul is - a man of principle rather than a politician playing party ball. Such an endorsement would truly demoralize and enrage many of Ron Paul's supporters and donors.

At the same time, Governor Gary Johnson will be calling for the "continuation of the Ron Paul revolution" in the fall election presumably with a Vice Presidential running mate access to funds and / or celebrity.

A new PPP poll shows Johnson - who is yet to receive any substantial national media coverage, other than this excellent clip on the Colbert Report is at 7% in a national race with Obama and Romney. A previous PPP poll showed Johnson at 9%, both numbers are within the margin of error. That Johnson has an excellent opportunity with additional media exposure to get to 10% of the vote or more.

According to PPP, the votes Johnson receives come disproportionately from Romney, although he does poll 2% from Obama. 39% of Johnson voters would support Romney if Johnson weren't in the picture, while only 18% would go for Obama. When Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is included, Obama's lead over Romney expands to 7 points at 46-39, with Johnson taking 7%. Gary Johnson can clearly have an impact of the 2012 election.

If Johnson gets 5% in 2012, the Libertarian nominee in 2016 will be eligible to get the same $90 million that the Republicans and Democrats get from the Federal Treasury for the General Election. If Johnson and his running mate poll at 15% they would both have to be admitted to the televised presidential debates.

Remembering that Congressman Paul and Governor Johnson are the only two candidates who oppose the war in Afghanistan, would truly slash Federal spending and debt, eliminate taxes, kill the Patriot Act, end the expensive and failed "War on Drugs," and would legalize marijuana, it would be hard to Congressman Paul to explain his endorsement of Mitt Romney.

The important question really is not "what will Ron Paul do" but "where do Ron Paul voters go?" The Ron Paul voters have disdain for Romney as a big government establishment Republican who is wrong on foreign policy, civil liberties, and economics. It is Gary Johnson's job to attract these voters, and he will. Ron Paul's endorsement of Romney would not wins these votes but Ron Paul's endorsement of Johnson will cement a movement and set the stage for history making.

At the same time, Ron Paul's failure to endorse the one candidate who is carrying the torch for his agenda in the name of partisan politics would be hard to fathom.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libertarian; paul; romney; romneytruthfile

1 posted on 05/08/2012 6:42:27 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
So this is what South Park meant by the Old Long Johnson cat replacing RP.

I just thought I knew a lot.

2 posted on 05/08/2012 6:52:05 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist; P-Marlowe; wmfights; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

The PPP Johnson poll is a couple weeks old now, but it is logical to assume that Ron Paul supporters would disproportionately go to Johnson.

Even if Paul endorses Romney, which, as the article points out, will be hard for a principle-based Ron Paul to do.

This takes away from Romney support and with other candidates, including CP’s Virgil Goode, it is another reason why Romney is going to fail.

Unless the GOP wants to fail (which they might given the economy), they will replace Romney at the convention.


3 posted on 05/08/2012 7:00:30 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

See: Ross Perot 1992.


4 posted on 05/08/2012 7:02:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Therefore, if we know going in that Romney will lose, then WHY STICK with Romney.

If Perot teaches us that Romney loses, then change the equation.

Dump Romney!


5 posted on 05/08/2012 7:05:19 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
Remembering that Congressman Paul and Governor Johnson are the only two candidates who oppose the war in Afghanistan, would truly slash Federal spending and debt, eliminate taxes, kill the Patriot Act, end the expensive and failed "War on Drugs," and would legalize marijuana, it would be hard to Congressman Paul to explain his endorsement of Mitt Romney.

Why do they always trot out this hackneyed crap? What about real RKBA? Real tax reform? Restoring the FedGov to it's strict Constitutional limts? Real property Rights. Real freedom of Religion including the Right to not allow same sex marriage in their Churches...

6 posted on 05/08/2012 7:11:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: xzins

Ron Johnson is going to prove to be about as viable on the Libertarian ticket as Bob Barr was in ‘08. A blip on the radar, nothing more.

Ron Paul would provide a much more serious challenge should he choose to pursue it. But I think some deal involving his son is in the works.


7 posted on 05/08/2012 7:15:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: xzins
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8 posted on 05/08/2012 7:17:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Dead Corpse
And just what would Romney or Gingrich or any of the other would be Republican candidates do to “ slash Federal spending and debt, eliminate taxes, kill the Patriot Act, end the expensive and failed “War on Drugs,” and would legalize marijuana”? Not a damn thing except slow the growth of that cancer. The cancer that is the federal government.
No thank you, I will be voting Libertarian again this time. I will also be sending money to the Johnson Campaign.
9 posted on 05/08/2012 7:24:31 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: xzins

Is he ‘still’ in this? If so; ‘still’ getting Secret Service protection? (Have not heard any complaints of wasting our money from Fox News - as was Newt so criticized for doing so.) What part of the the pie might he want and perhaps get? If any. . .


10 posted on 05/08/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . .because they are NOT afraid. And neither was/is Newt. . .)
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To: xzins

Thought the Paul’s and Romney’s pretty good friends. . .if true; and suspect it is; how hard can it be?


11 posted on 05/08/2012 7:39:22 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . .because they are NOT afraid. And neither was/is Newt. . .)
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To: Dead Corpse

I agree. There is no good reason for talking about marijuana use instead of RKBA other than propaganda purposes.

In the polls I’ve been looking at, even though Johnson and Goode are already selected candidates, they don’t poll except on Obama and Romney. The real ballot people will see will have Johnson and Goode on it.

I do believe lots of Paul’s support will gravitate to Johnson.


12 posted on 05/08/2012 7:42:56 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Tupelo

I don’t know about that sat sentence.

I’m still holding out hope for a brokered convention.


13 posted on 05/08/2012 8:04:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: xzins

They won’t poll if the MSM ignores them. If either Goode or Johnson start getting air-time, that will change.

Gotta rise above the static. Not sure either can do so by just looking at their respective personalities...


14 posted on 05/08/2012 8:06:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse

The pollsters aren’t putting their names in. They are asking:

obama

romney

3rd party

Put Gary Johnson in that poll and ask yourself what the people of New Mexico will do?

Put Virgil Goode in that poll and what will be people of Virginia do?


15 posted on 05/08/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Dead Corpse

The pollsters aren’t putting their names in. They are asking:

obama

romney

3rd party

Put Gary Johnson in that poll and ask yourself what the people of New Mexico will do?

Put Virgil Goode in that poll and what will THE people of Virginia do?


16 posted on 05/08/2012 8:11:37 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!


17 posted on 05/08/2012 8:19:03 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Happy Mom’s Week, Sister!


18 posted on 05/08/2012 8:23:21 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

Thank you!


19 posted on 05/08/2012 8:30:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins

Rasmussen had a three way poll and Paul get 13%. I can’t wait to see what Obambi will do to screw with the judges in America in a second term. A bunch of Free Republic folks got upset with GWB because he did not veto spending BUT he did get Roberts as chief justice of the supreme court. He tried to insitute something like the Social Securtiy programs of Australia and Chili only to have loyal Republicans, like Luger and Hastert to shoot it down. someone tell the Ron Paul folks he has been an earmark congressman right along with Hastert and Gingrich.


20 posted on 05/08/2012 9:21:33 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: xzins
Here is Ron Paul's dilemma. He cannot endorse Mitt Romney without destroying the very essence of what Ron Paul is - a man of principle rather than a politician playing party ball.

If Ron Paul was a man of principle over power he would have run as a Libertarian instead of a Republican for the past few decades.

21 posted on 05/08/2012 11:05:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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