Posted on 05/08/2012 9:38:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Texas Congressman Ron Paul appears more interested in influencing the direction of the Republican Party than in running as an independent presidential candidate. But perhaps Democrats should be careful what they wish for: Even if Mitt Romneys remaining GOP challenger should run as a third party candidate, new Rasmussen Reports surveying finds Romney the winner of a three-way race.
The latest national telephone survey shows that 25% of Likely U.S. Voters think Paul should run as a third party candidate. Sixty-one percent (61%) disagree, but 13% more are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
The national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on May 6-7, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
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OMG! The Democrats will be pulling what’s left of their hair out over this.
Young obama voters would go to Ron Paul?? It’s believable.
Except Ron Paul won’t run as an independent this time.
Any way you slice it, Obama’s re-election hopes are gone. I’ve made the point over and over that this election has zero to do with anything except Barry. For the first time in his existence, the Kenyan has a record.
Ron Paul should ALWAYS have been running as a third party Libertarian. But he knows that third parties hold little power in this nation.
Whoever said he was principled enough to run under his own party’s banner?
He could just as easily run as a Democrat and given Obama plenty of debate opportunities in 2011.
But what would this do to the Electoral Vote map?
That is the key. Would BO lose any states as a result? I’m not sure he would.
Ron Paul: Traitor Bradley Manning Is A Hero and a Patriot
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2823009/posts
Ron Paul Flashback: Israel Created Hamas
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Ron-Paul-Israel-Hamas/2011/12/28/id/422376
Ron Paul wishes Israel didnt exist
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4167257,00.html
RE: Ron Paul should ALWAYS have been running as a third party Libertarian
What’s he going to do this time, now that Gary Johnson is the Libertarian candidate?
Obama is going to lose in a landslide. Of this I am confident.
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Agree. But I cannot figure out how the same "youths" who found John McCain's age disgusting, so eagerly endorse Paul, who was born a year earlier than McCain?
Some of the same college age Paulbots who were supporting Paul in 2008 shifted their support to Obama, because McCain was "old".
It looks like the “get the governement out of my life” libertarians who vote republican are in equal proportion to the “legalize it” libertarians who vote dem.
looks pauls votes hurt obama not romney
Me too!
I hope your right. But, nothing would surprise me.
Well RP has a super left wing foreign policy, he was the only republican I prob would not vote for.
The antiwar sentiment is probably the single greatest animator of Paul’s supporters. The fiscal austerity stuff is probably the least. His supporters are not very conservative nor Republican overall. There’s never been any doubt that he would take more votes away from Obama than from Romney. As far as youth is concerned, most of them are looking for the “cool,” “hip” factor above any policy. And Ron Paul as the anti-establishment candidate has all that energy this year while Obama, the previous record holder for hipness in a presidential candidate, has lost it almost completely.
I said this in a post 5 months ago.
RON PAUL HAD YOUNG (AND BLACK) VOTERS EXCITED. Even though most of them are the stupid Alex Jones type, they all will actually GO AND VOTE for Ron Paul instead of sitting out a vote for Obama.
This is enough to push Romney into the win column in several states like Michigan, New York, Maryland, etc. Obama is toast either way unless Romney makes a major gaffe of Ron Paul gets so much fame that Republicans start voting for him.
Most of Ron Paul’s voters are INDEPENDENT, and the Democrats are not going to be out in big numbers this year.
Perfect Bulls Eye!
If RP does 3rd Party and nobama gets 4 more because of RP and his idiots. His idiots will be the first ones I’ll will look for in R2.
To believe this, you have to believe that most Paul supporters would vote for Obama over Romney. Indeed they might since many Paul supporters are actually libertarians and most libertarians have issues with people they deem led by their religion. Since Romney is outwardly an upstanding Mormon who might stand against them when it comes to issues like drug legalization, I could see them fleeing to Obama in a two-man race.
But that’s all speculative. What the poll might actually do is a) cause Democrats to back off the idea of encouraging Paul into a three-way race and b) give Romney pause if he had, indeed, struck a deal with Ron Paul to add Rand Paul as his running mate.
"What if Ron Paul ran third party huh? Wouldn't that decimate any Republicans chance of winning the White House?
I always responded that Dr. Elron Paul would probably take away more of Obama's base than the GOP nominees. Glad to see Raz confirms my theory.
What would this do to the swing states? My guess: Paul would push all of them into Romney’s camp. I will not be excited by a Romney win, but I will dance in the streets when we get rid of the anti-American socialist who has occupied our White House for three years!
I’d like to see a poll with Sarah Palin running on the Tea Party ticket included.
I don't think it is quite that simple, In 2008 supporting Obama was the COOL/rebel thing to do for them and he was a blank slate to them, unlike Grandpa McCain. They all wanted to join in,
But Obama is no longer an unknown, he is still at war and no jobs and no legal drugs, the only thing he delivered on was the gay rights stuff....so the kids moved back to Paul who supports the gay stuff too.
I see Ron Paul as another cult leader with a cult following, and Responsibility is the LAST thing that cult leaders want. I don't think he is the least bit serious, but then again I predicted with certainty that neither Trump nor Palin would run. Those were easy calls.
If Ron Paul accepts an offer to endorse Romney in exchange for becoming Treasury Secretary and a spot on the ticket for his son, Obama will be a crusin’ for a bruisin’...
Obama will be a crusin for a bruisin...
We’ll beat him LIKE A DRUM.
:)
Might cost Romney Texas. THAT would be a major problem.
... but it probably hurts Romney in Texas... and maybe my own state of Pennsylvania, where Ron Paul does well in certain suburban & rural areas.
Might cost Romney Texas. THAT would be a major problem.
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YUUUUUUUP!
Look for a movement to draft Paul to run third party. Pressure from some thinly-veiled Soros-backed entity with a noble name, like “Texans for Presidential Alternatives”.
Might cost Romney Texas. THAT would be a major problem.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
YUUUUUUUP!
Look for a movement to draft Paul to run third party. Pressure from some thinly-veiled Soros-backed entity with a noble name, like “Texans for Presidential Alternatives”.
I wonder if Bam Bam ever imagined a day when Ron Paul would be considered cooler than him :-)
Fascinating.
I can can tell you one thing, I see comments online all the time from people who purport to be Paul supporters trashing Romney and the GOP and saying they like Obama.
Ron Paul pulls more votes from 0bama than Romney?
mmmm.... WTH?
He definitely won’t lose a close race.
The ‘rats will never lose another close race.
They have the Secretary of State project (”elected” Al Franken),
and they have outright voter fraud.
We have to beat 0bama by more than the “margin of fraud”.
You have way more faith in the American public than I do. I think the majority are sheer idiots and will vote for Obamarx because they promise to give them stuff for "free".
MSNBC was going through Romney's history on this and showed that Romney has been very anti-gay advancement since about 2004. They said he opposed civil unions too. I saw some complaints here that he didnt openly defy the MA courts rulings, but what governor does that? None.
Romney doesn't appeal to younger voters(why would anyone think he would?) , but they are also disillusioned by Obama. Not only is there no jobs for them and we are still at war but Obama enforcing Federal laws against medical marijuana against state laws is very unpopular with them.
Where is Ron Paul on this Obama gay marriage? I thought he would be on MSNBC joinng the party last night.
Back to Romney, he is trapped in a box of his own making.
Three democrats.
That's not a choice.
That's why I'm going to do everything in my power to see that the people actually have a truly republican choice, so that there is no legitimate excuse for voting for these people.
I saw a list of tweets about the Obama gay announcement.
The best was “Pink smoke is rising from the White House Chimney”.
The one relevant to this thread is
“Pressure grows on Biden to say he thinks weed is pretty awesome too”
A lot of people really care an awful lot about that. If Romney would buy them each a dime bag he’d win their support.
One too many W’s in your link.
America’s party, that was Alan Keyes’ venture.
While he was and is an affiliate, and, yes, he was our first nominee in ‘08, it was never “his venture.” Not at all.
I'm pretty sure he believes it's a state issue.
Which is a bit tricky, because of the full faith and credit clause. That's why DOMA was passed.
That said, Ron Paul is bad on a handful of issues, but great on the rest.
1) First we must let SS couples adopt children ‘for the children’ ; to their credit China does NOT allow their kids to be adopted in the USA without normal married parents.
But now we must marry them for those same children and their friends. Many fools in the R party didn't see this coming
2) next, we must let gay’s openly join and serve the military because their ‘right to serve’
So now we must marry them because they served.
How many stupid Americans approved of of #1 and #2 while telling themselves they are opposed to SS marriage?
That is my position as long as the states don't get to define it for the Federal government, ref DOMA. I have the same position on abortion laws.
Ron Paul has a habit of rarely mentioning the words ‘states’ when stating his positions. He always uses the word ‘government’, not ‘federal government’.
On this issue he sure comes across as wanting states to marry gays, that is why the kids like him.
I just did a search and he is defending DOMA so you are right.
OTOH, this poll shows Paul hurting Barry more than Mittens. Hmmm...
Here's a little levity for a Thursday morning:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2142023/Armpit-hair-A-feminist-statement-No-untamed-body-hair-pits.html
Need I say what immediately popped into my deranged mind?
“Need I say what immediately popped into my deranged mind?”
Please do!
What popped into mine is maybe her boyfriend is a body hair fetish freak like the Bus Driver in “Mrs. Doubtfire”.
“Please do!”
I was thinking of her Southern regions. Methinks there’s no grooming there...say “HELLO” to 1975!!!
YUM!!!
WHOA!!!!
Seriously...I’m thinking “In de Jungle, de tangled Jungle...de crabbies sleep to-NIYYYYYYYYYYYYTE!!!! {oh-oh-oh-OHHHHHHHHHHHH}
Ev’rybody Sing wit me now, mon!!! wingawop-awingawop-awingawop-awingawop
Of course! I should have got that.
But shave yer pits woman!
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