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Why Obama has nothing to fear from backing marriage equality (Go ahead Obama, support it)
The Guardian ^ | 5/9/2012 | Harry J Enten

Posted on 05/09/2012 9:42:33 AM PDT by tobyhill

Barack Obama continues to frustrates the LGBT community and its supporters by not coming out and endorsing same-sex marriage, despite his approving of civil unions. The question many have is whether he hasn't done so because of a political judgment about the possible costs and benefits involved. In which case, how would it break for the president's campaign to back marriage equality?

Despite Obama's well-publicised claim that his personal view is "evolving", there seems to be underlying assumption among same-sex marriage advocates that the president privately does support same-sex marriage, but that he is afraid to admit it for fear of his electoral prospects. That belief relies on two facts.

One, Obama supposedly filled out a candidate questionnaire in 1996 for state senate where he gave "unequivocal support for gay marriage". Obama claims that, in fact, a campaign staffer, not he, filled it out. He did not, however, try to correct his published position when the newspaper that sponsored the survey published his pro same-sex marriage position.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homoagenda; homosexualagenda; obama

1 posted on 05/09/2012 9:42:37 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
The Guardian...not just *any* Communist rag,a *European* Communist rag.
2 posted on 05/09/2012 9:48:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: tobyhill
"evolving", fear

yep ... the one (zer0) is scared. Have some dog meat zer0! Can see November from this house.

3 posted on 05/09/2012 9:49:59 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Exactly. Even the Euro-gays want Obama to take the plunge into political suicide.

Obama is in a catch 22, either way he loses.

4 posted on 05/09/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

I wouldn’t say “nothing to fear” — but I might say he has “nothing to lose” from outright support. He also has nothing to gain.

Gay groups already support him. Christian and traditional demographics already won’t support him for the most part. And, everybody pretty much knows where he stands ... and knows that he hasn’t the spine to own it.

That’s really the only change I could see from him stating outright what everyone already knows he believes — it’d take spine that he doesn’t possess. Sprouting a spine might help him a bit ... but I don’t see any votes being won or lost on this that haven’t been won or lost already.

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 05/09/2012 9:53:21 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: tobyhill

“Obama claims that, in fact, a campaign staffer, not he, filled it out.”

WOW, zero’s been blaming others since 1996.


6 posted on 05/09/2012 9:54:09 AM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, it’s tough to vote “present” when you’re the president and in the national spotlight ... heh!heh!


7 posted on 05/09/2012 9:56:11 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: SnakeDoctor

Rush is talking about it now. Even Blue areas of NC voted for the amendment. If he comes out and admits he supports gay marriage then he has just drove the nail in his own political coffin but if he doesn’t then the Gay Libs, and there’s a lot of them, will also ditch him.


8 posted on 05/09/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: glennaro
He sure tried but now he's getting called out on it.
9 posted on 05/09/2012 10:01:24 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

“Barack Obama continues to frustrates the LGBT community and its supporters by not coming out....”


10 posted on 05/09/2012 10:03:36 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: tobyhill
Barack Obama continues to frustrates the LGBT community and its supporters by not coming out...

That's about right.
11 posted on 05/09/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: tobyhill

I think most of the “blue” areas that vote against gay marriage are black neighborhoods. I don’t think he’ll lose the black vote over disagreement about gay marriage. Obama could commence carpet-bombing of every MLK Blvd. in the US and still win 90%+ of the black vote.

Still ... I’ve been wrong before. Maybe Rush is right and there is a groundswell of “blue” areas that wouldn’t vote for Obama if he explicitly supported gay marriage.

SnakeDoc


12 posted on 05/09/2012 10:04:54 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: tobyhill

[ Rush is talking about it now. Even Blue areas of NC voted for the amendment. If he comes out and admits he supports gay marriage then he has just drove the nail in his own political coffin but if he doesn’t then the Gay Libs, and there’s a lot of them, will also ditch him. ]

We should encourage the Gay lobby to vote for Gary Johnson...

Pass the popcorn.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 10:06:46 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: tobyhill

Marriage equality..., is a joke. As anyone who has been married for any length of time can tell you. But, no one has denied it for homosexuals. Gay men are as equal as straight men. Let them marry a woman and find out. Same thing goes for gay woman.

...Marriage represents a contract between a man and a woman and their families, present and future. Gay marriage makes a mockery out of that contract, and a vast majority of people don’t want it. We also don’t want homosexuals in our schools teaching our kids how to be queers. That doesn’t mean we don’t like you, or that we don’t sympathize with your plight in life, or with your families. It means we aren’t interested in having you pervert the institution of marriage, and we don’t want you spreading your perversion in our public schools.


14 posted on 05/09/2012 10:10:06 AM PDT by pallis
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To: tobyhill

Obama’s worried that he’s going to win the same number of states as Mondale (1)...or maybe McGovern (2)...not a good number out of 57.

But the bear trap is caught on his leg now...if he makes New York, California, Vermont and Massachutsetts gays happy he just cements his loss of the heartland and the south in even bigger numbers. If he pisses them off, he’ll lose the heartland anyway and endanger himself even in those liberal sanctuaries.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: tobyhill

It is just making him look stupid because everybody KNOWS that he really supports it, and this is just kabuki theater intended to keep the black churches quiet till after the election.


16 posted on 05/09/2012 10:21:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tobyhill

Amendment 1 was soundly approved banning s/s marriage. Only 7 counties voted against. These of course is where the enlightened voters live.


17 posted on 05/09/2012 10:40:48 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: DownInFlames

He is going to lose whichever way he says he sides on.


18 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

the gays will never ditch him...


19 posted on 05/09/2012 11:40:55 AM PDT by berkley
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To: Buckeye McFrog

the black churches,,and the muslims


20 posted on 05/09/2012 11:43:10 AM PDT by berkley
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To: tobyhill
0bama had a nightmare recently. In it he was sitting in the 0val 0ffice when Churchill's bust comes through the door. It advances on the astonished 0bama and as it draws near it transforms into the living Winston Churchill. Releasing a mighty puff of cigar smoke in 0bie Won's face Winston exclaims "There is nothing to fear but queer itself!"

0bama blinks and says "Wait a minute! You're paraphrasing FDR not Churchill." To which the apparition replies "And you, sir, are a British subject pretending to be an American." At which point 0bama is abruptly awakened as Reggie Love rolls over and knocks him out of bed.

21 posted on 05/09/2012 11:56:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Hearing locally that zer0 has overcome his fear (or has he) and will now come out in support of the perversion of sad gays. So now the zer0 has summoned up all his courage to be for gay marriage. More truth comes out, which was already known.


22 posted on 05/09/2012 12:08:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: tobyhill

Yep, since Obama is tanking, it should come as no surprise.


23 posted on 05/09/2012 12:52:40 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tobyhill

He never believed it was politically safe to do this previously.

Mitt Romney has freed him up to publicly move even further left.

Thanks a lot, Republicans.


24 posted on 05/09/2012 1:06:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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