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New York Times: Obama Is a Socialist
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 8, 2012 | WILLIAM KRISTOL

Posted on 05/09/2012 10:34:57 AM PDT by yoe

We've been skeptical of the arguments by some of our brethren on the right that Barack Obama is a quasi-socialist or a crypto-socialist ... or just a plain old socialist. But now the New York Times is weighing in, in favor of the proposition.

In an article (Change in Paris May Better Fit U.S. Economic Positions)" the Times reports:

"With the victory of the Socialist candidate, (François Hollande), in the French presidential election, the White House has lost one of its closest allies on the Continent, but perhaps gained one with economic policy beliefs more closely aligned with its own....Mr. Hollande seems 'naturally more palatable to the administration,' said Justin Vaïsse, the director of research for the Center on the United States and Europe at the Brookings Institution....Observers said that...Mr. Hollande was likely to hew closer to the Obama administration on economic issues....Mr. Hollande...said that the countries had a 'convergence' on economic issues."

So, according to the Times, the French Socialist is "closely aligned with," "naturally more palatable to," and "likely to hew closer to" the Obama administration on economic issues. Is, therefore, Barack Obama (more or less) a socialist?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; communism; communist; franceelection; kristol; obama; progressive; radicalleft; socialist; socialists

1 posted on 05/09/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe
Good lord! Is there any question? Obama is a Socialist and a Marxist....
2 posted on 05/09/2012 10:36:27 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

more, never less.


3 posted on 05/09/2012 10:36:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Ping.


4 posted on 05/09/2012 10:37:21 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yoe

No, Bill. Obama is not a socialist. He is anti-American, a bigot, a socialist, a communist, nazi and facist.....all combined into one evil, hateful human being.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 10:41:53 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: yoe
Is he a National Socialist?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a01AVJotTRE/SuowgNyJvYI/AAAAAAAAAAw/kHC1UAAg8bE/s320/nsalp.jpg

Or an International Socialist?

http://www.allcountries.org/maps/soviet_union_map_3.jpg

6 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:01 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: yoe
Hold on just one darned minute here...

"Just because 0bama's policies are socialist doesn't mean he's a socialist!" - Bill 0'Reilly

7 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: yoe
"We've been skeptical of the arguments by some of our brethren on the right that Barack Obama is a quasi-socialist or a crypto-socialist ... or just a plain old socialist."

This "skepticism" is why I never bother with The Weekly Standard.

8 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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9 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:19 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: yoe

“...Obama is a Socialist and a Marxist..”

AND a muzzie.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 10:43:21 AM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: yoe
RINO supporting Kristol just figured that out? Slow on the uptake eh!
11 posted on 05/09/2012 10:44:36 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: yoe

This is the scariest part of the article: “We’ve been skeptical of the arguments by some of our brethren on the right that Barack Obama is a quasi-socialist or a crypto-socialist ... or just a plain old socialist.”


12 posted on 05/09/2012 10:45:50 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: yoe
It's not as though 'socialist' is some subjective pejorative term like 'jerk.' Socialism is an political/economic doctrine that has fairly well-defined characteristics. Anyone who wants to deny that Obama is a socialist merely has to list those tenets of socialism with which he disagrees.

* crickets *

13 posted on 05/09/2012 10:47:08 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: yoe
Marxism [ˈmɑːksɪzəm] n

"The economic and political theory and practice originated by the German political philosophers Karl Marx (1818-83) and Friedrich Engels (1820-95), that holds that actions and human institutions are economically determined, that the class struggle is the basic agency of historical change, and that capitalism will ultimately be superseded by communism."

14 posted on 05/09/2012 10:48:48 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: yoe

I see Lefties deny it at least weekly. They aren’t constrained by reality.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 10:49:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: yoe

Fascist.


16 posted on 05/09/2012 10:50:21 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Labyrinthos

You need to consider that when referring to Bill Kristol, you’re talking about a guy who still doesn’t think the Muslim Brotherhood is dominated by Islamic radicals. He’s a little slow that way.


17 posted on 05/09/2012 10:50:46 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: duckman

And a pervert and a hate-whitey black racist (even though he’s less than 1/2 black himself).


18 posted on 05/09/2012 10:54:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: yoe
Good lord! Is there any question? Obama is a Socialist and a Marxist....

Wrong. He is a hard core communists and his Administrative empire supports this. HE IS A COMMUNISTS.

19 posted on 05/09/2012 11:17:02 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: yoe
Obama is a socialist.

Socialism kills.

Any questions?

20 posted on 05/09/2012 11:18:04 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: FreedomPoster

They only deny the label because they know if they embraced it that the veil would be dropped and they wouldn’t hold any offices in this country except perhaps dogcatcher if they were the only one on the ballot.

On the other hand, whenever a Lefty denies democrats’/0bama’s socialism, use this:

OK, let’s say he isn’t a socialist. How would his policies differ if he were?


21 posted on 05/09/2012 11:20:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: yoe

Socialism is communism by the glass.


22 posted on 05/09/2012 11:26:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Rush: If Ward Churchill had a daughter, she’d look like Elizabeth Warren.)
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To: yoe

Obamamao sez “Laissez les bons temps rouler”


23 posted on 05/09/2012 11:27:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: yoe

FUBK!

For crying out loud! Stop complimenting 0b0z0 by labeling him as a European Socialist!

He is NOT! He’s an old-fashioned, ignorant, Khrushchev
-Like-peasant Communist thug! Khrushchev was trying to prop up his rotten country; 0b0z0 IS trying to destroy “his” 57 states. Khrushchev wasn’t a homo, 0h0m0 IS! Khrushchev was a Russian; 0b0z0 IS NOT American!

The idiotic French elected an EDUCATED Socialist, our “fellow Americans” elected a fraudulent ignoramus who is bordering on illiteracy!

Do you wonder why he wouldn’t dare publish his education record? If it comes out, 0b0z0 will be on suicide watch and the MSM’s laughable claim of 0b0z0’s 180 IQ will dump more than 0kaka in the sewer; it will pull them right down with him, where they belong!


24 posted on 05/09/2012 11:28:42 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: little jeremiah
And a pervert and a hate-whitey black racist (even though he’s less than 1/2 black himself).

Have you ever noticed that some of the lightest-skinned "blacks" are also some of the fiercest racists?

25 posted on 05/09/2012 11:33:46 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: yoe

Obama is an advocate of Black Liberation Theology which makes him more a Maoist friendly to Islam than anything else. He has hired Maoists and BLT ideologues. In his first term he has gone relatively slow, hoping to be given a second term.


26 posted on 05/09/2012 11:40:50 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Max in Utah

I have indeed. Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright and others - look like octaroons practically!


27 posted on 05/09/2012 12:23:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Labyrinthos
“We’ve been skeptical of the arguments by some of our brethren on the right that Barack Obama is a quasi-socialist or a crypto-socialist ... or just a plain old socialist.”

They're free to label some one as being on the Right, but if it walks and quacks like a duck and is a Leftist, don't want to apply a label.

28 posted on 05/09/2012 12:48:56 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: KC_Lion

I choose International Socialist. He’s done the apology tour to dissuade any notion that he appreciates the virtues of this nation, thus NOT a nationalist.


29 posted on 05/09/2012 12:52:29 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: KC_Lion

I choose International Socialist. He’s done the apology tour to dissuade any notion that he appreciates the virtues of this nation, thus NOT a nationalist.


30 posted on 05/09/2012 12:52:29 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: yoe

31 posted on 05/09/2012 12:56:52 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: yoe

32 posted on 05/09/2012 2:09:06 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: ronnyquest

Fascists are not on the Right. I think this chart needs another color, like green for less government/republican (little ‘r’) government.


33 posted on 05/09/2012 2:24:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: yoe

Obama couldn’t wait to invite him to the WH.


34 posted on 05/09/2012 2:39:56 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: combat_boots
"Fascists are not on the Right. I think this chart needs another color, like green for less government/republican (little ‘r’) government"

Hence, the fact that fascists are on the left with the other statists, where they belong. Little r republicans are on the right, along with the governmental structure called "The Republic," which is where our nation ought to be. The chart is right-on. Deal with it.

35 posted on 05/09/2012 2:49:55 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: ronnyquest

“The chart is right-on. Deal with it.”

I read the chart as color-coded, as well as spatial. Blue is identified on the chart as ‘Right.’

The text contradicts that, but the color explanation is incorrect.


36 posted on 05/09/2012 3:04:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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And ‘No Government’ should not be in red but in another color.


37 posted on 05/09/2012 3:06:41 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: yoe

Obama is a National Socialist
www.freerepublic.com ^ | October 27, 2008 | Kevmo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2116981/posts

Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 5:19:47 PM by Kevmo

Liberals have become so crass, so ignorant of history, and so idealogically blinded that we can now call them “National Socialists” without them realizing that we just painted them as NAZIs.

We called Obama a socialist because he definitely is one. We’ve been countered with, “What’s wrong with socialism?”

Now we can simply call them National Socialists. They don’t even KNOW we’ve just called them NAZIs. Give it a try and see how it plays. Report back on this thread for others to learn.

What’s wrong with socialism? Monday, October 27, 2008 1:04:01 AM · by Boucheau · 24 replies · 558+ views WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 10/27/2008 | Joseph Farah http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2116233/posts

Will MSM Continue Ignoring Shocking Obama ‘Redistribution of Wealth’ Audio? Monday, October 27, 2008 5:56:38 AM · by St. Louis Conservative · 44 replies · 900+ views Newsbusters ^ | October 27, 2008 | P. J. Gladnick http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116395/posts

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Periodically, when I find myself surrounded by liberals, I have thrown out the blurb that “what we need to do is combine nationalism with socialism and form a national socialist party.” I used to do it just to see how many giggles I’d get, then I started doing it to see if ANYONE would notice what I just promoted. Now what I get is, “That’s a good idea”.

See for yourself, give it a try.


38 posted on 05/09/2012 11:25:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (Palin 2012. It's just me in the voting booth. 100% straight republican ticket.)
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