Skip to comments.Obama announces his support for same-sex marriage
Posted on 05/09/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
President Obama today announced that he now supports
same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure
from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.
In an interview with ABC News Robin Roberts, the president
described his thought process as an evolution that led him to this place,
based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian
service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.
"I have to tell you that over the course of several
years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about
members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous
relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I
think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there
fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't
Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at
a certain point Ive just concluded that for me personally it is important for
me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get
married, Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABCs Good Morning
America Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABCs World
News with Diane Sawyer.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Of course. Just another issue to divide the country. He has been holding back on this one until now to make it a false campaign issue, taking attention away from the job he has failed at for almost four years. That is the key to his four year campaign - divide the people on a multitude of overlapping issues. Another communist strategy to stoke people’s emotions against each other. Every week, another divisive issue for the pandering media to push.
Speaking of dogs....
Why can’t I marry my dog?
I love my dog!
NC is a bizarre place for a Dim convention anyway. Why would they rather not have it in the holy city of Chicago, home of The Won??/s;)
Obama to African-Americans: I know many of you do not approve of sodomite marriage, but you are just going to have to sit down and shut up...what are you going to do...vote for the white guy?
I agree. Romney is trying to play both sides here. He’s for Gay Marriage.
He’s flipped on other issues, unlike Newt who’s been pretty clear thru out, but let’s face it folks, he turned out to be a crappy campaigner with a crappy team right out of the gate.
Au contraire my FRiend, the bicycle IS in every picture!
0h0m0 is a BICYCLE because he gets ridden, always!
Bambi thinks his touching message will inspire the pro-gay black lobby I reckon.
Poor little GOV Romney....getting pushed around so. He is just a pawn filling a suit and some shoes that somehow always go in the direction of left. What a great CIC he will make...for the left.
Yep..I'm absolutely certain that if we elect Romney he will make sure we get conservative judges to keep Gay issues from progressing....*(snort).
I was amazed that he every was “against” gay marriage. That’s the liberals core mantra.
“The Supreme Court of Massachusetts are the entity that established gay marriage in Massachusetts.”
Absolutely not. They demanded that the legislature change the laws, which they refused to do. Under the MA constitution, only the legislature has authority over marriage issues. In MA, the state supreme court can oly advise the governor and legislature. The Goodrich decision says explicitly that the court has no authority.
The legislature refused to change anything. No marriage law has changed in Massachusetts. They have same sex marriage because Romney threatened to fire town clerks if they did not start issuing same-sex licenses, and conveniently, Romney had already asked the records people make up same-sex forms for them to fill out.
So when I say executive action, I mean that all the changes that took place and all the orders given came from the governor. Nobody voted on anything and no state law was changed.
Snort like a pig if you want. One candidate opposes gay marriage, the other supports it. If you find a need to make that confusing, I think it’s sad.
Have had a little more time to think on this matter and perhaps heterosexual unions are staying relatively intact and the attorneys needed new clients? A payoff to attorneys to generate additional clients?
Why have an age requirement for homosexual “marrage”?
It's my understand that Romney has rejected gay marriage his entire career, therefore can you furnish some more input relating to your comment or a link to information?
In my wildest imagination I never thought a sitting President would utter such heresy. Even a gay Marxist panleninist like the Kenyan. Nothing is sacred now in the US. The family is destroyed. No man and woman together for marriage. Plus 50 million babies killed before birth. What kind of people have we become?
Reminds me of ancient Israel. Destruction is soon to follow a people behaving so: basic tenet of history and scripture. Penalty for not following God’s plan for mankind.
Here is what homosexuality and gay marriage brought to my life: my gay married brother died of AIDS 6 years ago. They never talk about the Aids deaths.
Unmarried teen mothers. Married grouchy old gays and lesbians. Decline and decadence. It’s all about the sex, complete selfish self centered twistedness. Disgusting Obama he will probably marry his gay lover now. I understand that Hillary has one too. We are a nation run by and for perverts.
For starters, the link above, plus I have several posts above.
Doubters may wish to look up the Massachusetts laws on marriage, or look up to see if there was legislative action to change them.
The Goodrich decision text is online as well.
Also, YouTube probably has the Romney-Kennedy debates that has Mitt saying that gays should have equal rights and Mitt would do more for gay rights than Ted Kennedy (from memory, not exact).
What you say is true. What may also be true is that which the future holds and what/which some politicians, on the side of evil, also know. Imagine a complete meltdown of the dollar with a repeat of Hoover. It maybe is another setup. Don't know ... but demonRATS play for the long haul.
The black vote went heavily for Obammie the Commie in NC as it did elsewhere.
It will be interesting to see how the blacks in NC who voted against gay marriage will vote for a black presidential candidate who supports it.
You'd flunk Politics 101 if you didn't know Biden was definitely sent out there directly by the President to say what he did. Probably it was a peace offering to the gay lobby, but they didn't budge without a full endorsement so Obama caved.
Yep, 0h0m0 is downright low all right.
Obama calls his view an “evolution”.
However, if we were all gay their would be no evolution or breeding and our species would die.
This guy is a creep.
This gAy is a creep.
ROTFL! I'm sorry..I don't want to upset your applecart darlin'. You just move along and...absolutely do not pay any attention to the mountains of information right here on FR about Romney's part in forcing Gay marriage on MA./s
(Seriously people...this is exhibit A in why this country is toast. The the illusion of a two party system in our socialist state is complete. Congrats commies.)
"Nov. 18, 2003 Romney responds to SJC ruling with four-sentence statement implicitly recognizing SJCs authority, says only remedy will be a constitutional amendment: I disagree with the Supreme Judicial Court. Marriage is an institution between a man and a woman. I will support an amendment to the Massachusetts Constitution to make that expressly clear. Of course, we must provide basic civil rights and appropriate benefits to nontraditional couples, but marriage is a special institution that should be reserved for a man and a woman."
As some here continue to reject the Republican nominee, I just wish that only the truth is posted - Democrats are the spinners, not Conservative or Republicans.
Sort of like how Romney got nominated?
I have to admit that Obama just did more to help Romney win over the conservative base with this move than Romney ever could have on his own.
And gay marriage is much more acceptable among the younger demigraphic, something Obama needs to win. It is also a distraction from his economic failures and high unemployment. Obama would like to make this election about social issues, not his record.
When gay marriage came before the MA Supreme Court, Romney fought against the decision which made gay marriage a right. As governor he had to enforce the ruling, which some have faulted him for doing, but critics do not apply that standard to other issues, for instance faulting Pro-Life governors for enabling abortions in their states because of court decisions legalizing abortion
Heterosexuals have babies, and they grow up and vote. Homosexuals occasionally get to adopt babies, and they grow up and vote, too. So who has more babies?
Note to Williams: Romney should run against Obama’s anti-religious radicalism and put the economy on the back burner. It’s difficult to run against a President who is willing to pass out unlimited handouts to people in a bad economy. See FDR. People will vote their pocketbook and that means voting for the person who will give them handouts to help them survive in these troubled times. That means Obama. Running against someone who is attacking churches and deeply held religious convictions is a much more winning issue. 90% of the public will back up the one favoring traditional religious beliefs on that one.
He had conversations “with his own daughters” about this? What a POS....how old are they?
Romney will “evolve” as far as Bambam by 2016. He’s getting us to the same place, just a tad slower.
He's got to make sure Hollyweird will still give him his new talk show as the new male Oprah once he's out of office. If he goes down as a hero for the radical left's causes, his post-presidential career in the world of the left will be well-secured. If he goes moderate and loses the election, they'll blame him for both selling them out and not even getting to keep the White House to show for it.
But in cold stark reality, Bobo's blown (heh) a kiss-off to the South, and so it's over. No VA, no NC, no tickee no shirtee.
Now begins our conservative efforts to extract every possible guarantee out of Mitt, starting with a conservative VP.
What kind of animal is a conservative democrat anyway?
I had a conversation with a guy not too long ago who didn’t realize he’s a conservative. All of his values are conservative, but he votes Democrat. When I asked him why, he claimed to be an “old-school” Democrat.
When I asked what that was, he had no idea. Come to find out ... his family has always voted Democrat. So he does too.
Idiot. That’s what we’re dealing with out there.
Exactly. Imagine the anti-Amendment One homos hearing Bobo's big news and facepalming, "WTF? We coulda' used that a little SOONER, Barry."
Still would have passed, but it's the principle of this stooge, in that he has no principles at all...
I’ve always wondered why Joe Manchin continues to be a democrat. He’s pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-traditional marriage. He also ran for the senate AGAINST Obamacare.
He has nothing at all in common with any other democrat in Washington, DC. If any politician needed to switch parties, it’s Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia.
If they move their convention out of NC over NC’s vote, it would be more than political theatre. It would show the entire nation what the jackass party is and what it views as important. Let them move it to San Fransicko and while Barry is giving his acceptance speech, God can release a magnitude 10 earthquake in the Bay area. That would make a definite statement!
How-in-the-world...did that guy ever get elected POTUS. Words fail me. Unbelievable! Absolutely unbelievable that this...this...whatever in the world he is...ever got elected, just baffles me to no end. Think of the empty skulls full of mush who voted him in. We are in such serious, deep trouble in this country...for there is a real possibility that this guy will be re-elected.
Look who he ran against.
YAY for him, best of luck Barry!
Let me tell you something Bobo, Malia and Sasha can look at those "same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together" and if even they are as thick-headed as their mom, they know it's impossible for those "same-sex couples" to have produced those "kids".
Obama didn’t bring THIS cultural conservative or my culturally conservative family over to Romney.
Music to my ears. I’ve believed this all along and told a friend who is a liberal Democrat immediately after Obama’s election that he would rue the day Obama became President because Obama would be such a disaster once in office, it would lead to the biggest conservative ascendance in modern times and the near-destruction of the Democratic Party.
My friend thought I had lost my marbles at the moment. Now, he’s whistling a different tune and has nothing much good to say about Obama. After the election, I’m going to remind him of what I said in 2008.
How will this affect the Democrat black Churches??
Will not mean a thing to them, they already have been saying that 60 million abortions since 1972 is no big deal, why would they give a rats a** about gay marriage?
The black Democrat Church is just a social club, they disregarded the Bible years and years ago. It`s really a crying shame, they once came from a rich tradition of Christianity, now they have sold their souls to the Democrat party.
For the most part they could care less about the 60 million plus that have been killed, they will care even less for the little ones that are taught they can have a boy friend or a girl friend.
Some of the black`s I am speaking about have already made statements, sure there will be sermons at some of the black Democrat Churches, but they are not about to vote Republican.
Really nothing new here,a vote for a Democrat is a vote for abortion, Gay Marriage, removal of Christ from classroom/public square etc. They should have been weeping with us the last 40 years or so (if they were Christian) but they really do not care one bit.
I hope/pray to be proven wrong
You are right, of course. People are not always consistent in their voting patterns. They may vote ‘no’ on gay marriage, but depending on their priorities,they may or may not vote for politicians who are for gay marriage.Hence, we see what happened in blue states of California and Hawaii.
It also depends on the politicians: whether or not they make it a paramount issue maters.
This guy I spoke to is a FTW LEO. He’s “ashamed” to vote Republican. It “goes against” how he was raised. How do you fix that sort of attitude? I don’t understand it. It’s a stigma they can’t get past. I’d venture a guess there are plenty more like him. How do we reach them?
With certainty: IN, NC, VA, FL, OH, NE (1)
Put into solid play: IA, WI, PA, MI
I think NV and NH are in play for different reasons.
I can't see where this gets Bobo one new state, but it might put CO out of Mittens reach. No great loss, don't need it.
I understand. What’s sad is Romney is making no effort by completely ignoring and shrugging his shoulders on pro-life, pro-traditional marriage issues among many.
I understand that economy is important, but the notion that we should completely ignore everything else is ridiculous.