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Obama announces his support for same-sex marriage
ABC OTUS News ^ | May 9, 2012 | Rick Klein

Posted on 05/09/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

President Obama today announced that he now supports

same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure

from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president

described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place,

based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian

service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several

years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about

members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous

relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I

think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there

fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't

Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at

a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for

me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get

married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning

America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World

News with Diane Sawyer.”

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course. Just another issue to divide the country. He has been holding back on this one until now to make it a false campaign issue, taking attention away from the job he has failed at for almost four years. That is the key to his four year campaign - divide the people on a multitude of overlapping issues. Another communist strategy to stoke people’s emotions against each other. Every week, another divisive issue for the pandering media to push.


251 posted on 05/09/2012 1:54:59 PM PDT by rebooted
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To: NKP_Vet

Speaking of dogs....

Why can’t I marry my dog?

I love my dog!


252 posted on 05/09/2012 1:55:11 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: massgopguy

NC is a bizarre place for a Dim convention anyway. Why would they rather not have it in the holy city of Chicago, home of The Won??/s;)


253 posted on 05/09/2012 1:55:11 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: who knows what evil?

Obama to African-Americans: “I know many of you do not approve of sodomite ‘marriage’, but you are just going to have to sit down and shut up...what are you going to do...vote for the white guy?”


Basically!


254 posted on 05/09/2012 1:55:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: wolfman23601

I agree. Romney is trying to play both sides here. He’s for Gay Marriage.

He’s flipped on other issues, unlike Newt who’s been pretty clear thru out, but let’s face it folks, he turned out to be a crappy campaigner with a crappy team right out of the gate.


255 posted on 05/09/2012 1:55:21 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Bob Buchholz; little jeremiah
You have ALL of them together except the bicycle.

Au contraire my FRiend, the bicycle IS in every picture!

0h0m0 is a BICYCLE because he gets ridden, always!

256 posted on 05/09/2012 1:56:35 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Frank_2001

Bambi thinks his touching message will inspire the pro-gay black lobby I reckon.


257 posted on 05/09/2012 1:56:45 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Williams
"Yes the State Supreme Court controls the law..."

Poor little GOV Romney....getting pushed around so. He is just a pawn filling a suit and some shoes that somehow always go in the direction of left. What a great CIC he will make...for the left.

Yep..I'm absolutely certain that if we elect Romney he will make sure we get conservative judges to keep Gay issues from progressing....*(snort).

258 posted on 05/09/2012 1:57:05 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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I was amazed that he every was “against” gay marriage. That’s the liberals core mantra.


259 posted on 05/09/2012 1:57:48 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: chuckee

“The Supreme Court of Massachusetts are the entity that established gay marriage in Massachusetts.”

Absolutely not. They demanded that the legislature change the laws, which they refused to do. Under the MA constitution, only the legislature has authority over marriage issues. In MA, the state supreme court can oly advise the governor and legislature. The Goodrich decision says explicitly that the court has no authority.

The legislature refused to change anything. No marriage law has changed in Massachusetts. They have same sex marriage because Romney threatened to fire town clerks if they did not start issuing same-sex licenses, and conveniently, Romney had already asked the records people make up same-sex forms for them to fill out.

So when I say executive action, I mean that all the changes that took place and all the orders given came from the governor. Nobody voted on anything and no state law was changed.


260 posted on 05/09/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Earthdweller

Snort like a pig if you want. One candidate opposes gay marriage, the other supports it. If you find a need to make that confusing, I think it’s sad.


261 posted on 05/09/2012 2:00:06 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Have had a little more time to think on this matter and perhaps heterosexual unions are staying relatively intact and the attorneys needed new clients? A payoff to attorneys to generate additional clients?


262 posted on 05/09/2012 2:00:57 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: kempster

Why have an age requirement for homosexual “marrage”?


263 posted on 05/09/2012 2:01:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DBrow
I don’t think so. He’s running against a guy who forced gay marriage on Massachusetts by executive action.

It's my understand that Romney has rejected gay marriage his entire career, therefore can you furnish some more input relating to your comment or a link to information?

264 posted on 05/09/2012 2:01:57 PM PDT by unique1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In my wildest imagination I never thought a sitting President would utter such heresy. Even a gay Marxist panleninist like the Kenyan. Nothing is sacred now in the US. The family is destroyed. No man and woman together for marriage. Plus 50 million babies killed before birth. What kind of people have we become?

Reminds me of ancient Israel. Destruction is soon to follow a people behaving so: basic tenet of history and scripture. Penalty for not following God’s plan for mankind.

Here is what homosexuality and gay marriage brought to my life: my gay married brother died of AIDS 6 years ago. They never talk about the Aids deaths.

Unmarried teen mothers. Married grouchy old gays and lesbians. Decline and decadence. It’s all about the sex, complete selfish self centered twistedness. Disgusting Obama he will probably marry his gay lover now. I understand that Hillary has one too. We are a nation run by and for perverts.


265 posted on 05/09/2012 2:02:05 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: unique1

http://massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/timeline.html

For starters, the link above, plus I have several posts above.

Doubters may wish to look up the Massachusetts laws on marriage, or look up to see if there was legislative action to change them.

The Goodrich decision text is online as well.

Also, YouTube probably has the Romney-Kennedy debates that has Mitt saying that gays should have equal rights and Mitt would do more for gay rights than Ted Kennedy (from memory, not exact).


266 posted on 05/09/2012 2:06:25 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: pollywog
we have lost our country. GOD HELP US!

What you say is true. What may also be true is that which the future holds and what/which some politicians, on the side of evil, also know. Imagine a complete meltdown of the dollar with a repeat of Hoover. It maybe is another setup. Don't know ... but demonRATS play for the long haul.

267 posted on 05/09/2012 2:09:20 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Southnsoul

The black vote went heavily for Obammie the Commie in NC as it did elsewhere.

It will be interesting to see how the blacks in NC who voted against gay marriage will vote for a black presidential candidate who supports it.


268 posted on 05/09/2012 2:10:57 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Ron Paul is the Lyndon Larouche of the 21st century.))
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To: Michael.SF.
A real leader would have put little jo in place a long time ago: "JOE, I'm the President so STFU and do as you are told."

You'd flunk Politics 101 if you didn't know Biden was definitely sent out there directly by the President to say what he did. Probably it was a peace offering to the gay lobby, but they didn't budge without a full endorsement so Obama caved.

269 posted on 05/09/2012 2:11:34 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Married with Children
Barak is one of those “Down Low” Brothas

Yep, 0h0m0 is downright low all right.

270 posted on 05/09/2012 2:15:54 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama calls his view an “evolution”.
However, if we were all gay their would be no evolution or breeding and our species would die.

This guy is a creep.


271 posted on 05/09/2012 2:23:00 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (“Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.")
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To: NowApproachingMidnight
This guy is a creep.

Bears repetition.

This gAy is a creep.

272 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:18 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Williams
"One candidate opposes gay marriage, the other supports it.

ROTFL! I'm sorry..I don't want to upset your applecart darlin'. You just move along and...absolutely do not pay any attention to the mountains of information right here on FR about Romney's part in forcing Gay marriage on MA./s

(Seriously people...this is exhibit A in why this country is toast. The the illusion of a two party system in our socialist state is complete. Congrats commies.)

273 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:20 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: DBrow
As I originally thought, your post is misleading.

"Nov. 18, 2003 Romney responds to SJC ruling with four-sentence statement implicitly recognizing SJC’s authority, says only remedy will be a constitutional amendment: “I disagree with the Supreme Judicial Court. Marriage is an institution between a man and a woman. I will support an amendment to the Massachusetts Constitution to make that expressly clear. Of course, we must provide basic civil rights and appropriate benefits to nontraditional couples, but marriage is a special institution that should be reserved for a man and a woman.”"

As some here continue to reject the Republican nominee, I just wish that only the truth is posted - Democrats are the spinners, not Conservative or Republicans.

274 posted on 05/09/2012 2:31:46 PM PDT by unique1
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To: DBrow
Based on this account, it is a little more complicated than that. MA did not get gay marriage due to Romney" s actions. He was acting by a ruling of the MA Supreme Court
275 posted on 05/09/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by kabar
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Through...suffocatinging propaganda, the indifferent middle comes to the conclusion that the end result is inevitable and that opposition is futile. The switch isn’t consciously considered. The conclusion is arrived at sub-critically -—”it’s just the way it is.”

Sort of like how Romney got nominated?

I have to admit that Obama just did more to help Romney win over the conservative base with this move than Romney ever could have on his own.

276 posted on 05/09/2012 2:40:19 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: rogue yam

And gay marriage is much more acceptable among the younger demigraphic, something Obama needs to win. It is also a distraction from his economic failures and high unemployment. Obama would like to make this election about social issues, not his record.


277 posted on 05/09/2012 2:41:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DBrow

When gay marriage came before the MA Supreme Court, Romney fought against the decision which made gay marriage a right. As governor he had to enforce the ruling, which some have faulted him for doing, but critics do not apply that standard to other issues, for instance faulting Pro-Life governors for enabling abortions in their states because of court decisions legalizing abortion


278 posted on 05/09/2012 2:43:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Heterosexuals have babies, and they grow up and vote. Homosexuals occasionally get to adopt babies, and they grow up and vote, too. So who has more babies?


279 posted on 05/09/2012 2:46:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Williams

Note to Williams: Romney should run against Obama’s anti-religious radicalism and put the economy on the back burner. It’s difficult to run against a President who is willing to pass out unlimited handouts to people in a bad economy. See FDR. People will vote their pocketbook and that means voting for the person who will give them handouts to help them survive in these troubled times. That means Obama. Running against someone who is attacking churches and deeply held religious convictions is a much more winning issue. 90% of the public will back up the one favoring traditional religious beliefs on that one.


280 posted on 05/09/2012 2:57:35 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He had conversations “with his own daughters” about this? What a POS....how old are they?


281 posted on 05/09/2012 2:58:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Williams

Romney will “evolve” as far as Bambam by 2016. He’s getting us to the same place, just a tad slower.


282 posted on 05/09/2012 3:01:54 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
He’s just trying to hold a handful of states (Cal, Oregon, Wash, Vermont, Rhode Island, New York) so that he doesn’t get crushed worse than McGovern or Mondale did.

He's got to make sure Hollyweird will still give him his new talk show as the new male Oprah once he's out of office. If he goes down as a hero for the radical left's causes, his post-presidential career in the world of the left will be well-secured. If he goes moderate and loses the election, they'll blame him for both selling them out and not even getting to keep the White House to show for it.

283 posted on 05/09/2012 3:05:49 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Going strictly for base blue states now to head off the Mittens landslide. This firms up the West Coast, and probably puts CO out of reach; conversely Bobo just put PA, WI, IA and MI onto Mittens map.

But in cold stark reality, Bobo's blown (heh) a kiss-off to the South, and so it's over. No VA, no NC, no tickee no shirtee.

Now begins our conservative efforts to extract every possible guarantee out of Mitt, starting with a conservative VP.

284 posted on 05/09/2012 3:09:21 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: tobyhill

What kind of animal is a conservative democrat anyway?

I had a conversation with a guy not too long ago who didn’t realize he’s a conservative. All of his values are conservative, but he votes Democrat. When I asked him why, he claimed to be an “old-school” Democrat.

When I asked what that was, he had no idea. Come to find out ... his family has always voted Democrat. So he does too.

Idiot. That’s what we’re dealing with out there.


285 posted on 05/09/2012 3:10:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: JediJones
Romney = Traditional Religious Beliefs?? That one got by me.
286 posted on 05/09/2012 3:12:05 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: moovova
"No, wait a minute...shouldn’t he have said something BEFORE the vote?"

Exactly. Imagine the anti-Amendment One homos hearing Bobo's big news and facepalming, "WTF? We coulda' used that a little SOONER, Barry."

Still would have passed, but it's the principle of this stooge, in that he has no principles at all...

287 posted on 05/09/2012 3:14:20 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’ve always wondered why Joe Manchin continues to be a democrat. He’s pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-traditional marriage. He also ran for the senate AGAINST Obamacare.
He has nothing at all in common with any other democrat in Washington, DC. If any politician needed to switch parties, it’s Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia.


288 posted on 05/09/2012 3:19:53 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

If they move their convention out of NC over NC’s vote, it would be more than political theatre. It would show the entire nation what the jackass party is and what it views as important. Let them move it to San Fransicko and while Barry is giving his acceptance speech, God can release a magnitude 10 earthquake in the Bay area. That would make a definite statement!


289 posted on 05/09/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

How-in-the-world...did that guy ever get elected POTUS. Words fail me. Unbelievable! Absolutely unbelievable that this...this...whatever in the world he is...ever got elected, just baffles me to no end. Think of the empty skulls full of mush who voted him in. We are in such serious, deep trouble in this country...for there is a real possibility that this guy will be re-elected.


290 posted on 05/09/2012 3:23:53 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Mean Maryjean
How-in-the-world...did that guy ever get elected POTUS

Look who he ran against.

291 posted on 05/09/2012 3:25:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: apillar

YAY for him, best of luck Barry!


292 posted on 05/09/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors, when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together...You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we're talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn't dawn on them that somehow their friends' parents would be treated differently."

Let me tell you something Bobo, Malia and Sasha can look at those "same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together" and if even they are as thick-headed as their mom, they know it's impossible for those "same-sex couples" to have produced those "kids".

293 posted on 05/09/2012 3:29:32 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: CountryClassSF

Obama didn’t bring THIS cultural conservative or my culturally conservative family over to Romney.


294 posted on 05/09/2012 3:32:19 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Music to my ears. I’ve believed this all along and told a friend who is a liberal Democrat immediately after Obama’s election that he would rue the day Obama became President because Obama would be such a disaster once in office, it would lead to the biggest conservative ascendance in modern times and the near-destruction of the Democratic Party.

My friend thought I had lost my marbles at the moment. Now, he’s whistling a different tune and has nothing much good to say about Obama. After the election, I’m going to remind him of what I said in 2008.


295 posted on 05/09/2012 3:33:56 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How will this affect the Democrat black Churches??

Will not mean a thing to them, they already have been saying that 60 million abortions since 1972 is no big deal, why would they give a rats a** about gay marriage?

The black Democrat Church is just a social club, they disregarded the Bible years and years ago. It`s really a crying shame, they once came from a rich tradition of Christianity, now they have sold their souls to the Democrat party.

For the most part they could care less about the 60 million plus that have been killed, they will care even less for the little ones that are taught they can have a boy friend or a girl friend.

Some of the black`s I am speaking about have already made statements, sure there will be sermons at some of the black Democrat Churches, but they are not about to vote Republican.

Really nothing new here,a vote for a Democrat is a vote for abortion, Gay Marriage, removal of Christ from classroom/public square etc. They should have been weeping with us the last 40 years or so (if they were Christian) but they really do not care one bit.

I hope/pray to be proven wrong


296 posted on 05/09/2012 3:35:11 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Brookhaven

You are right, of course. People are not always consistent in their voting patterns. They may vote ‘no’ on gay marriage, but depending on their priorities,they may or may not vote for politicians who are for gay marriage.Hence, we see what happened in blue states of California and Hawaii.

It also depends on the politicians: whether or not they make it a paramount issue maters.


297 posted on 05/09/2012 3:40:54 PM PDT by paudio (no tagline for now...)
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To: NKP_Vet

This guy I spoke to is a FTW LEO. He’s “ashamed” to vote Republican. It “goes against” how he was raised. How do you fix that sort of attitude? I don’t understand it. It’s a stigma they can’t get past. I’d venture a guess there are plenty more like him. How do we reach them?


298 posted on 05/09/2012 3:41:32 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: RushIsTheMan
"What states that he won last time, will he probably lose over this?"

With certainty: IN, NC, VA, FL, OH, NE (1)
Put into solid play: IA, WI, PA, MI

I think NV and NH are in play for different reasons.

I can't see where this gets Bobo one new state, but it might put CO out of Mittens reach. No great loss, don't need it.

299 posted on 05/09/2012 3:44:59 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Southnsoul

I understand. What’s sad is Romney is making no effort by completely ignoring and shrugging his shoulders on pro-life, pro-traditional marriage issues among many.

I understand that economy is important, but the notion that we should completely ignore everything else is ridiculous.


300 posted on 05/09/2012 3:52:43 PM PDT by CountryClassSF
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