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Late-term healthy twins counted as ‘severe fetal anomaly’ for abortionist Tiller: former prosecutor
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/9/12 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 05/09/2012 4:01:14 PM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, May 9, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Phill Kline may know more about the dark underbelly of the abortion business than any other man in America.

The only prosecutor ever to bring charges against Planned Parenthood, Kline, a former Attorney General of Kansas and D.A. of Johnson County, started by investigating child rape, but found more than he bargained for as he dug deeper into the records of Kansas late-term abortionist George Tiller and the local Planned Parenthood affiliate.

“The evidence I found is not unique. It’s just that no one is looking,” Kline said during a talk in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.

The attorney described how late-term abortionist George Tiller, whose career ended with his murder three years ago, would contort the meanings of legal restrictions on late-term abortions beyond recognition.

“We had at one point an exception that allowed late-term abortions on viable children if there was a severe fetal anomaly. Dr. Tiller found a ‘severe fetal anomaly’ in instances involving cleft palate, Down Syndrome, and healthy twins,” he said.

“The logic of it is clear: twins are an anomaly, are they not? And they can have a severe economic impact on the family. That’s what happens to the law when you don’t believe in truth.”

Tiller also had an unorthodox application for an exception for when a pregnancy imposes “severe and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.”

“We have him on tape explaining this,” said the lawyer. “The mind is a substantial part of the body. The child will likely outlive the mother in life expectancy. Since the mother will worry about the child, affecting the mind most likely for the remainder of her life, she is suffering from severe and irreversible damage to a major bodily function, that of the mind.”

Tiller once claimed to have aborted at least 60,000 unborn children.

The Tiller discoveries came as part of Kline’s child rape investigations against Planned Parenthood in 2007, when he filed 107 charges, including 23 felonies, against the local affiliate. Kline says that out of 166 records of girls impregnated under 13 years old, abortion clinics had reported only two as instances of child rape, when the law required that all be reported. The two that were reported, he said, had already hit the media at the time.

Kline described his shock he felt as his investigations deepend and both the judicial system and local media turned on him, in tandem with Planned Parenthood. The abortion giant poured millions into defending itself, said Kline, because a conviction would mean the loss of $350 million in federal taxpayer funds.

Now, Kline is fighting an attempt to have his law license indefinitely suspended. One argument being used against him, he said, is that it was “unethical” to investigate child rape without the victim asking for one - and another is based on his “conflict of interest” for being personally pro-life while investigating abortion.

“It’s Alice through the looking glass. It only gets curiouser and curiouser, where up is down and down is up, and then law becomes about brute power,” he said.

“And that’s why those who can’t be seen because they’re in the womb, those who don’t count in electoral votes, those who can’t write checks, are forgotten in our society and neglected - just as the raped woman or the exploited woman who feels she has no choice but to have an abortion.”

Kline emphasized the critical need to elect local prosecutors willing to take on unregulated abortion businesses.

He referred to the “House of Horrors” Philadelphia abortionist Kermit Gosnell, who was only prosecuted because of a DEA search warrant on drug abuse based on his sale of scrips. Gosnell’s is now on trial for the murder of several babies killed with scissors to the back of the neck after being born alive during abortions.

“There are more Doctor Gosnells than the one being prosecuted,” said Kline.

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KEYWORDS: abortion; georgetiller; moralabsolutes; prolife
Dr. Tiller found a ‘severe fetal anomaly’ in instances involving cleft palate, Down Syndrome, and healthy twins,” he said.

Tiller the Killer is surely burning in Hell.

1 posted on 05/09/2012 4:01:24 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 05/09/2012 4:03:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 05/09/2012 4:05:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

We can never know what happens to a persons soul before the moment of death, however this may the first time I sincerely hope there was no conversion and hope this monster is rotting in hell.


4 posted on 05/09/2012 4:08:10 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: wagglebee

This is the blackest kind of evil.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 4:11:15 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: svcw
I thought at first that there may have been a deathbed conversion, but I think Tiller honestly believed that what he was doing was right.
6 posted on 05/09/2012 4:11:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

It comforts me that Tiller is burning and suffering in Hell.


7 posted on 05/09/2012 4:14:32 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: wagglebee

Another instance where I think the clause against cruel and unusual punishment is a hindrance to justice.


8 posted on 05/09/2012 4:15:41 PM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: wagglebee

It’s hard to identify with the murder of a person...usually.


9 posted on 05/09/2012 4:35:04 PM PDT by BobL
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To: wagglebee

right next to ted kennedy


10 posted on 05/09/2012 4:37:56 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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“I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning.” - Obama (May 31, 2009)


11 posted on 05/09/2012 4:45:15 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Obama Sucks!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Tiller would have been quite at home with the crowd of barbarians on the other end of The Won’s Blackberry.


12 posted on 05/09/2012 4:45:43 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wagglebee
Tiller the Killer is surely burning in Hell.

Without a doubt.

13 posted on 05/09/2012 5:36:39 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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We can never know what happens to a persons soul before the moment of death, however this may the first time I sincerely hope there was no conversion and hope this monster is rotting in hell.

I find myself thinking that it would be justice for him to feel every pain of every baby he murdered when he was slaughtering them.

14 posted on 05/09/2012 5:39:25 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Yes, I agree and every cry that never was, that for eternity he hears and exists with the crying of every unborn baby he killed.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 5:44:44 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: wagglebee
Tiller once claimed to have aborted at least 60,000 unborn children.

At least..

16 posted on 05/09/2012 5:55:11 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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Seen here at 24 weeks - six months from conception, the unborn child is covered with a fine, downy hair called lanugo. His tender skin is protected by a waxy substance called vernix. Some of this substance may still be on the child's skin at birth at which time it will be quickly absorbed. The child practices breathing by inhaling amniotic fluid into developing lungs.

17 posted on 05/09/2012 5:55:44 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available 4 FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee
Tiller the Killer is surely burning in Hell.

I clicked on the thread to post the exact same thing.

18 posted on 05/09/2012 6:09:34 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: wagglebee

I wanted to read more about this, so I googled Kline’s name, and found what follows below (on Wikipedia). I don’t know how true the info is, and even if it is true, it does not necessarily follow that his allegations aren’t true. But it does make me raise an eyebrow.

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Kline’s tactics drew legal and ethical scrutiny; he testified before an ethics investigation that he had the right to deceive other state agencies and had no duty to immediately correct false information provided to a trial judge in the course of his investigations of abortion providers.[5] In 2011, the Kansas state Board of Discipline of Attorneys recommended that Kline’s law license be indefinitely suspended, citing a pattern of repeatedly misleading statements, “dishonest and selfish motives”, and a failure to “take any responsibility for his misconduct.” Kline disputed the Board’s findings as politically motivated.[6]


19 posted on 05/09/2012 6:28:36 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: wagglebee

“I thought at first that there may have been a deathbed conversion, but I think Tiller honestly believed that what he was doing was right.”

There was no doubt in many Nazis minds that they were doing the right thing. Creepy.


20 posted on 05/09/2012 6:34:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: wagglebee
II Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

IF, IF, IF America! We must wake up and, as a nation, repent of this grave and grievous evil or we are finished as a nation.

21 posted on 05/09/2012 7:18:21 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: wagglebee

“abortionist George Tiller, whose career ended with his murder three years ago”

Praise God, Tiller is DEAD.

Did you ever see his videos? Pure Evil. This guy was evil.


22 posted on 05/09/2012 8:46:39 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: wagglebee

There is no other way to describe him except pure evil. He knew what he was doing and was proud of himself for it.


23 posted on 05/09/2012 10:23:13 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Woo hoo! Another moderate candidate! Thanks GOP and voters!)
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Just watched a video of him on You Tube. His father was an abortionist too.


24 posted on 05/09/2012 10:34:22 PM PDT by beaversmom
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IF, IF, IF America! We must wake up and, as a nation, repent of this grave and grievous evil or we are finished as a nation.

And it's more than abortion we need to repent of and turn back to God about.

25 posted on 05/10/2012 5:49:42 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

If I remember correctly, Dr. Tiller was a deacon in his church and was given a Christian service and burial, attended by a large crowd of mourners. But of all the mourners, God must have been the most heartbroken. A beautiful and healthy child had grown up to be a gifted and educated man; that man, George Tiller then made the decision to dedicate his life to evil almost beyond comprehension. We and the God who made and loved George have now seen the last of him.

We who are left to deal with the evil of abortion must turn to our churches and DEMAND that they come to grips with the reality of abortions and abortionists. No more moonbeams and unicorns. This is the real world, and murder is murder.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 6:56:15 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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It’s also heartbreaking the number of people who came to mourn him and decry the evil of his murder without seeing the hypocrisy of their position in that they supported his murdering the most innocent and vulnerable of all.

What hypocrisy...


27 posted on 05/10/2012 7:08:29 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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It comforts me that Tiller is burning and suffering in Hell.

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT CHRIST IS LORD, NEVER WISH THIS!

I'm comforted that God is in command. I'm comforted that God has infinite wisdom, far greater than that of any human being.

God, though His Incarnate Son, gave us "The Lord's Prayer". That states (in English, in the translation I believe is well agreed upon):

"And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive them that trespass against us. "

Note that trade: our trespasses will be forgiven only so much as we forgive other's trespasses.

I'm not going to lie and say that "asking for forgiveness for George Tiller" is easy. It isn't. His crimes against the most innocent were wretched.

But ultimately God is in command, and deciding who goes into Hell or who stays out is His providence only.

Here are two practical, useful reasons why we're supposed to forgive: First, it keeps us from allowing anger to eat us alive. Second, it gives us better ability to approach sinners like Tiller to try to help them. Or to honestly pray for them.

This isn't just theoretical. Some of the absolute best resources the pro-life side has are people who used to perform abortions. While we can debate if the actions of a theoretical (and regrettably not real) "reformed, pro-life Tiller" would balance out all the horror he committed, the truth is that this would be better for the pro-life cause than his not converting.

28 posted on 05/10/2012 7:30:58 AM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: faucetman

He had videos?


29 posted on 05/11/2012 9:40:24 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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