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Obama and gay marriage: What he's risking in an election year
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 9, 2012 | By Paul West

Posted on 05/09/2012 4:12:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

President Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage is an election-year boost to his liberal base that comes with some risks.

The move is likely to hurt him in the South. One in three Southern swing voters are strongly opposed to gay marriage, a recent Pew Research Center poll found. Just this week, North Carolina, which Obama carried narrowly in 2008, approved one of the toughest bans on same-sex unions in the country. If the switch on same-sex marriage ends up costing him states in the fall, North Carolina will be the first place to look.

More central to his reelection will be the impact in Virginia, one of the top battlegrounds in the country, where a recent statewide survey showed him with a slight lead over Mitt Romney. “There could be some element of risk there,” said veteran pollster Andrew Kohut, who directs the Pew Research Center.

The reactions of minority voters will be closely watched. African Americans are unlikely to abandon the president, though his decision will surely give some older blacks pause. Six months of relentless assaults by the Romney forces, however, will likely boost their determination to see Obama reelected.

Some Latinos may well have second thoughts, particularly voters cross-pressured by the Catholic church’s aggressive opposition to gay marriage.

“Hispanics who are less committed to Obama and are otherwise upset because they feel he broke his promise to pass immigration reform". A downscale white voter in Ohio who was already leaning against the president might lean a little bit more against him now.

Obama’s decision unleashed fresh excitement among gay and lesbian donors, already one of the largest sources of campaign money for the president’s reelection.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bho2012; bhohomosexualagenda; election2012; gaymarriage; gayvote; homosexual; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; radicalleft; swrdswllwngsdshw
Gay $$$.
1 posted on 05/09/2012 4:12:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any other candidate besides Romney would tear into Obama about this and maybe Romney can find some surrogates who still will. The polls are on our side here and a savvy pol would use it to his advantage.


2 posted on 05/09/2012 4:15:47 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes he did it for money. Also Obama has gone all in on a leftist revolution reelection policy. He should lose, but if he wins God help us all.


3 posted on 05/09/2012 4:16:58 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

With or without this issue, he’s burnt toast. HE carries too much baggage; I think it’ll be a 45 state sweep. We have had enough. period. Loved Rush’s rant this afternoon. sd


4 posted on 05/09/2012 4:17:13 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wrote last week....Obama really doesn’t want a second term. Michelle hates DC and dealing with whites.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 4:17:53 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s another attempted distraction. This will be his game plan. Don’t let the focus be on the economy. People will fall for it.


6 posted on 05/09/2012 4:19:53 PM PDT by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No doubt about it. He makes the calculation and concludes the money is more important than the loss of some democrat social conservative votes.


7 posted on 05/09/2012 4:20:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: Williams
.Yes he did it for money. Also Obama has gone all in on a leftist revolution reelection policy. He should lose, but if he wins God help us all.

if he wins, wouldnt that be a sign that we're on our own?

8 posted on 05/09/2012 4:21:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Obama’s decision unleashed fresh excitement among gay and lesbian donors, already one of the largest sources of campaign money for the president’s reelection."

Gay $$$

Exactly.

9 posted on 05/09/2012 4:21:12 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Presidential Race is about the relative light reflectivity of your Slavemaster.)
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To: shotdog
Loved Rush’s rant this afternoon

Rush ranted this afternoon? I Hadn't heard a word from him since his program ended at noon here.

10 posted on 05/09/2012 4:23:42 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: outofstyle

You are over-analyzing.


11 posted on 05/09/2012 4:25:17 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

D-E-S-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N


12 posted on 05/09/2012 4:30:03 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: shotdog
With or without this issue, he’s burnt toast. HE carries too much baggage; I think it’ll be a 45 state sweep. We have had enough. period. Loved Rush’s rant this afternoon. sd

Agree with you, dog. The left (and a lot of those on the right) are going to be shocked at the results of this election. Obammy is going to lose in a landslide. The only states he will win: CA, NY, WA, MA, RI, VT and CT, maybe MD.

Wake me when it's over.
13 posted on 05/09/2012 4:34:15 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Simple:

1. Axelrod knows Obama was (still is?) homosexual. They knew who the guys were (and are).

2. Barry's handlers have the same GAYDAR we FReepers do and they saw the same effeminate behavior, the whistling of his 's's, the trowing like a girl, and they also knew he spent 13 years on the mainland, 10 before meeting Moochie, and they couldn't come up with even one woman willing to say Barry and slipped her the man-meat. Barry is as queer as any homo you'll ever meet. But since DC and the lamestreet media is absolutely jammed with queers, they could count on a cover-up. They couldn't afford Barry being outed in 2007, so they punted.

3. Now it doesn't really matter. After yesterday they decided to push up his 'announcement' to today. This was all done to deflect suspicion about being a homo away from him. Now his re-election is in real trouble and they figured they'd play that card for the money and to try and shore up the base assholes of the DemonRat party! Won't do him any good though because we are going to CRUSH him November. Then he and Reggie can pack all the fudge they want!

14 posted on 05/09/2012 4:38:13 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: OrangeHoof

What is to be gained by tearing into Obama over this? The only people opposed to gay marriage who will vote for Obama are Blacks. And they will vote for Obama even if he promoted
cannibalism. Tearing into Obama wins Romney not one more vote because if a voter is putting gay marriage as his personal third rail for voting, that voter isn’t listening to what’s happening here.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 4:38:51 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Signalman

I pray every day you are right! Thank you for your optimism, I love it! :)


16 posted on 05/09/2012 4:39:08 PM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Blacks have told me that they do not like the gay rights movement, because they feel it dilutes the meaning of civil rights. They simply do not want to acknowledge a section of affluent white people as being discriminated against.

In their minds, people can see that they are black, so racists can easily find them and discriminate, but no one can tell that you are gay unless you open your mouth.

So this may seem like a risky move for keeping blacks, but in this election where else are they going to go? It would have been a risky move for a white president, because the black vote would have resisted it, but not so much for a black president.

17 posted on 05/09/2012 4:39:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A downscale white voter in Ohio who was already leaning against the president might lean a little bit more against him now.

Geesh!

18 posted on 05/09/2012 4:41:21 PM PDT by wvguy
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To: xkaydet65

I think you’re right. I was searching for a reason as to why Obama would throw this out there the day after his (evolved) interests got slammed in the same state he’s having the DNC convention at, but I think I was looking too hard.

It’s just another distraction from the hard facts about what an utter failure Obama is.

Hell, I imagine this isn’t going to help him much since homosexuals are going to see it as little more than political pandering for his reelection bid. Of course, they were going to vote for him anyway...


19 posted on 05/09/2012 4:43:52 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
more pandering to the filthy 2% of voters he's going to get anyway
20 posted on 05/09/2012 4:51:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I doubt he’s risking much of anything as long as the votes are counted by a Soros owned company. Let’s face it folks: we’re screwed until we come up with enough guts to actually fight back... and I’m not referring to voting or debating.


21 posted on 05/09/2012 4:59:59 PM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Doc Savage

“Slipped her the man-meat”...oh my goodness, I just spit the peaches and cottage cheese I had in my mouth all over my computer screen....I needed a laugh, thanks!


22 posted on 05/09/2012 5:28:13 PM PDT by ragmop
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am SHOCKED that Obama made this dumb of a move.

The general election just went from a tossup/lean Obama to Romney’s to lose. And in one fell swoop Obama just secured the entire South for Romney, something that Romney could NEVER have done on his own.

Thanks Obama :)


23 posted on 05/09/2012 5:37:40 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: steve86

I disagree, I think he knows he is losing badly on economic issues, and he has some chance of energizing his base and districting voters by shifting into a social issues campaign.


24 posted on 05/09/2012 5:49:11 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yet another issue that Romney cannot challenge him on. Mitt says he’s against it now but his governorship record tells another story.

Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I’ll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.


25 posted on 05/09/2012 6:33:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Whatever states that don’t yet have a gay marriage amendment on their November ballot need to get one on it.

That could serve to peel off some votes.........


26 posted on 05/09/2012 6:41:07 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (Remember, JimRob called a truce....not a surrender.)
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To: xkaydet65
What is to be gained by tearing into Obama over this?

Any time a candidate has a stated position opposed by over half the population, you pound them on it for, if nothing else, it forces them to waste resources defending it.

Granted, I'd rather see Obama attacked on the economy because he has no defense on that other than to blame Bush which won't wash after four years.

However, it's a long campaign and there will be plenty of chances to work all their messages in.

27 posted on 05/09/2012 6:52:18 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree. I think Obama just lost the election. If Romney doesn’t waffle on this issue he could ride this thru to the election. I wasn’t going to vote for Romney but if he comes out strong against homo marriage I may reconsider.


28 posted on 05/09/2012 7:39:10 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (If Romney is the nominee, say hello to four more years of Obama!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“The general election just went from a tossup/lean Obama to Romney’s to lose.”

Don’t ever underestimate the GOP’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Remember McCain suspending his campaign in 2008 to return to Washington and save the nation from the financial crisis? The election is Romney’s to lose but he is a RINO and with all of his flip flopping he could easily make an incredibly stupid move. Life experience tells me that people without strongly held core beliefs do crazy things.


29 posted on 05/09/2012 8:20:23 PM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: OrangeHoof

There’s no upside for Romney to bash Obama. There’s no uniformity of polling numbers to make it worth his while. Bashing Obama over this is not going to get him one Freeper voter who hates Romney and his policies and positions. Of course he will be asked amd IMO he should respond by referring to Obama’s multiple flip flops and obfuscations and tell the press to ask Obama to explain.


30 posted on 05/09/2012 8:49:58 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: xkaydet65

Perhaps you haven’t noticed that there are roughly 200 million voters in this county that aren’t Freepers and perhaps some of them might be persuaded.

Besides, I thought all the Freepers had decided they weren’t voting for Romney anyway because “he’s just as bad as Obama”.


31 posted on 05/09/2012 9:13:15 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: OrangeHoof

At the risk of being banned, I am voting for Romney, and based on his recent public performance, my support is more enthusiastic. I used the Freeper term generically to include those conservatives, and there are many,not only here but on Hotair, Ace,Redstate,etc who see a vote for Romney as totally abandoning their own principles. Coming out against Obama’s gay marriage position will not win those voters over to Romney. Additionally he will be savaged in the media as mean spirited, hateful, and bigoted. There’s an old saying,you must measure what you might gain by what you might lose. By that standard, if I’m Romney i make no statements and respond to questions carefully.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:57 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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