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Bodies found as searchers reach wreckage of Russian jet that crashed in Indonesia.
Fox News ^ | Published May 10, 2012 | AP

Posted on 05/10/2012 2:58:33 AM PDT by carriage_hill

JAKARTA, Indonesia – Rescuers say they have discovered bodies near the wreckage of a Russian-made passenger plane that smashed into a steep Indonesian volcano with 45 people on board.

Search and rescue spokesman Gagah Prakoso said his teams reached the remote, rugged site near the crater on Thursday afternoon.

They found the Sukhoi Superjet-100 scattered along the jungly slopes.

Family members, many of whom spent a long, sleepless night at the airport, broke down in tears on hearing the news the plane had been spotted on the side of a cliff Thursday morning. Others stared blankly ahead in disbelief.

"From the pictures we're seeing, it looks like it was a total loss," said Daryatmo, chief of the national search and rescue agency, as the first images flashed across local TV.

The Sukhoi Superjet-100, Russia's first new passenger jet since the fall of the Soviet Union two decades ago, was scattered on a steep near the top of Mount Salak, a volcano just 30 miles southwest of Jakarta. The company's blue-and-white logo peeked through the dense canopy of trees.

The location will hamper efforts to evacuate victims, said Gagah Prakoso, adding they will have to be pulled to a hovering helicopter by ropes and nets.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airline; crash; russia; sukhoi; sukhoisuperjet100; superjet
Mystery question:

"Twenty-one minutes after takeoff, the crew asked for permission to decline from 10,000 feet to 6,000 feet, said Daryatmo, chief of the national search and rescue agency.

The plane fell off the radar immediately afterward.

It was not clear why the Russian pilot and co-pilot asked to drop down, especially when it was so close to the 7,000-foot-high mountain, or if they got the OK."

1 posted on 05/10/2012 2:58:35 AM PDT by carriage_hill
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To: carriage_hill
You can tell KGB thug Pootie Poot is taking the Russkies back to communism...

...their technology is starting to suck like before....time to fire up the old spy services to steal Western advances again.

2 posted on 05/10/2012 3:17:37 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("The Leftist MSM will tell us Obama is winning right up to his landslide defeat.")
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To: carriage_hill
The Superjet -- developed by the civil aircraft division of Sukhoi with the co-operation with Western partners -- has been widely considered the country's chance to regain a foothold in the international passenger plane market.

Its "Welcome Asia!" tour, which also included stops in Pakistan, Myanmar and Kazakhstan, was intended to drum up support.

Sunaryo from PT. Trimarga Rekatama, the company that helped organize Wednesday's event, said 47 people were on board, many of them potential buyers and journalists.,

Well this is a fine How Do You Do!

Probably a salesman wanted to impress the crowd with a close flyby of the volcano and the pilot encountered turbulence and went down.

3 posted on 05/10/2012 3:19:46 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Happy Rain

Exactly what I was thinking when I first saw this article at 5am, HR. A return to the Soviet days of old.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 3:26:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: Pontiac

It sounds like they’re not going to release the tapes any time soon, so we’ll probably never know for sure, but that’s a damned good guess.

“...47 people were on board, many of them potential buyers and journalists.”

Well, there goes all future orders and any good press about the jet.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 3:30:11 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill

I heard about the crash, but have not kept up with it.

There is a really great program on the National Geographic channel...”Air Crash Investigation”.
It is a super program on commercial air disasters, but it is not for the squeamish.
It is remarkable how they trace events back to months before the disaster, as they go back and pinpoint the cause, sometimes due to a failure of the maintenance crew, pilot error, but also ATC.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 3:34:47 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Pontiac

salesmen. they think they know everything


7 posted on 05/10/2012 3:35:56 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Pontiac

salesmen. they think they know everything


8 posted on 05/10/2012 3:36:02 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: AlexW

I also heard about it yesterday afternoon, but it disappeared off the news cycles for a while, until I saw it reappear this morning at 5am.

I’ll check that program out and see when it’s next on, AW; thanks.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 3:44:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill

RIP.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 3:45:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: AlexW

Fri, May 11th at 8pm is another episode. Thanks AW; I’ll watch it.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 3:53:25 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: AlexW
t is remarkable how they trace events back to months before the disaster, as they go back and pinpoint the cause, sometimes due to a failure of the maintenance crew, pilot error, but also ATC.

Sometimes it's due to an deliberate act. Don't be too surprised if among the dead are a few enemies of Putin.

12 posted on 05/10/2012 3:57:05 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Happy Rain; carriage_hill
You can tell KGB thug Pootie Poot is taking the Russkies back to communism...

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html

13 posted on 05/10/2012 4:05:02 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: carriage_hill

reckon they won’t be selling a heck of a lot of them planes...just sayin’


14 posted on 05/10/2012 4:05:57 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: carriage_hill

“I’ll check that program out and see when it’s next on, “
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The National Geo program will not have anything on a recent
crash.
They must be over a year or more, for them to have such data.
It is amazing how deep they get into a crash, and they cover the entire world.
You will see videos of people searching for the flight recorders, on land and under water, as well as full coverage of ATC exchanges with the pilots.

I have watched many of the programs, some crashes that I remember, but it is international in scope.
The one I saw this week was about the crash in Serbia, from the Clintonesta regime, where Brown was killed.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 4:06:39 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes, RIP, all onboard.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 4:12:06 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: AlexW

Did you ever see the documentary, “Grounded”, about the 5,800 commercial plane flights grounded on 9-11?


17 posted on 05/10/2012 4:14:58 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: camle

Think you’re right, c. If it doesn’t make a maiden test flight, it ain’t going nowhere commercially, no matter what the findings are.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 4:16:32 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: ETL

“Sometimes it’s due to an deliberate act. Don’t be too surprised if among the dead are a few enemies of Putin.”
____________________________________________

The crash that I think you may be referring to was fully covered just a few months ago on the NG program.
Crash in Poland in 2010 of TU-154?


19 posted on 05/10/2012 4:19:38 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: carriage_hill

“Did you ever see the documentary, “Grounded”, about the 5,800 commercial plane flights grounded on 9-11?”
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It has been just this week that I saw it.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 4:22:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: carriage_hill

Damn those pesky mountains.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 4:39:12 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: bikerman

Reports yesterday suggested the airplane ran out of fuel.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 5:04:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: carriage_hill

Russia: What accident?


23 posted on 05/10/2012 5:25:50 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I am the margin of error.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It’ll be *sanitized* from history and all records, soon enough.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 5:30:41 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill
They found the Sukhoi Superjet-100 scattered along the jungly slopes.

Jungly? Moronic journalists.
25 posted on 05/10/2012 5:41:08 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

New word, like “White-Hispanics”. C’mon, keep up, V. LOL.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 5:51:29 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: Happy Rain
...their technology is starting to suck like before...

Actually, more than half of the systems in this aircraft were sourced outside of Russia, and many of them from the USA. This was (for Russia) cutting-edge tech and not at all suck. But you are still right: Soviet-style systems management is back in a big way. We don't know why this bird crashed yet, but with brute force engineering behind it, who knows? An immature module, poor or incomplete integration, an overheated schedule that eliminaed key tests or a nervous and inexperienced pilot in an unfamiliar and possibly buggy cockpit environment...anything could have happened.

In the past, the Soviet method had few consequences, because there was no competition and little financial pressure. Soviet airlines accepted buggy jets and shrugged when they crashed and burned. They couldn't run out and buy Boeings instead, after all! This may be a wake-up call for Russia, especially if contracts are cancelled.

27 posted on 05/10/2012 5:52:17 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Reports yesterday suggested the airplane ran out of fuel."

I thought they were saying that, after the plane failed to return to the airport at 3 hours, after what was supposed to be a flight of 30 minutes or so, they would have then been out of fuel. That's different from suggesting the cause might have been running out.

28 posted on 05/10/2012 5:55:22 AM PDT by Be Free (Gas prices are high because Democrats WANT them to be high.)
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To: ETL

Making a fly-by of a mountain or volcano, for a look-see, is dangerous for several reasons.

In this case the mountain may have been partially obscured by clouds, and an attempt to get under the clouds for a close look could have been the cause.

Also, air currents from wind around the mountain can cause down drafts and updrafts and shear.

Sometime back, a chartered DC-10 full of tourists flew into a mountain in Antartica, in broad daylight. There wasn’t anything wrong with that particular airplane, or the type.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 6:14:12 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: carriage_hill

“Jungly?”

“Rain Foresty” just doesn’t sound right.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 7:01:13 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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