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California Considers Legislation Making it a Crime to Counsel Children Not to Be Homosexual
CNSNews ^ | May 9, 2012 | Pete Winn

Posted on 05/10/2012 7:03:15 AM PDT by Qbert

(CNSNews.com) - Conservative pro-family groups in California are making preparations to challenge what they call a “dangerous” bill banning "reparative therapy" for teens that is on a fast track through the California State Senate.

California Senate Bill 1172 would make it illegal for therapists, psychologists, counselors and parents to engage in any kind of “sexual orientation change efforts” against children 18 and younger.

Violators could be subject to arrest, fines, possible jail time.

The bill, which passed out of a legislative committee Tuesday on a 5-3 vote, would also require adults to sign a consent form before they could seek therapy or counseling to change their sexual orientation.

Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute of Sacramento, Calif., pledges to challenge the constitutionality of the measure in the courts, if it passes the Legislature.

“This legislation is a grotesque violation of the rights of parents over their children,” said Dacus, who testified against the bill Tuesday.

He said the bill, which targets reparative therapy, could also lead to parents losing custody of their children to the state if they seek therapy for their youngsters.

“It specifically prohibits any child under the age of 18 who struggles with homosexuality from getting any kind of professional counseling at all, period,” Dacus told CNSNews.com.

“In fact, it also subjects parents to possibly having their children permanently removed from them if it is found that the parents were not accepting of a child’s perception of being homosexual and the parents want the child to get counseling.”

“If the parents are not totally accepting of this sexual orientation, then that is deemed abuse and gives the government grounds to permanently take the child from the parents.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; nannystate
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To: Lazamataz

He woudln’t care. And I don’t feel like arguing. He’s for gays and such. We got in a big argument about that. About being born with it and such. He pulled the whole “Gays are committing suicide” and that I was ok with bullying those kids. Here’s a fun one. He said that it’s ok to be gay as long as they aren’t having sexual relations...


21 posted on 05/10/2012 7:26:42 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Qbert

Ever notice that people who quote “ people’s right to choose” only allow it to be about one issue.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 7:26:46 AM PDT by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: Qbert

Best information I’ve ever found pertaining to all things homosexual. I’ve worked with Dr. Nicolosi on several radio shows. The man, the institute and their cause are absolutely amazing and without a doubt, necessary and vital in a left-liberal-homo-tolerant society.

One of the good doctors listed as an Officer of NARTH(named withheld) is one of my parishioners as well. A very knowledgable and devout Catholic who has worked in this area for years.

http://narth.com/about-narth/

Deacon Francis


23 posted on 05/10/2012 7:26:53 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Qbert
HOW MUCH MORE of this politically correct CRAP are we going to TAKE?????

Yesterday Sean Hannity was discussing the recent moves by the Food Nazis in Massachusetts to regulate what kids eat OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL!!!

He had some food Nazi named Susan Levin on also. She was complaining about people eating out too much, eating too much processed meats, eating too much meat, etc, etc.

FOX had Judge Napolitano on this morning. He said the TSA has no COngressional authority to carry out the intrusive pat-downs and friskings of Americans they have been engaged in for the past several years and only get away with it because WE LET THEM!!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!

Conservatives and rational people have to become MORE MILITANT!!!!!!

A democratic Republic only works if the people MAKE IT WORK!!!

Americans must take back their governments AND THEIR LIVES from these odious career politicians and bureaucratic technocrats ANY WAY WE CAN!!!

24 posted on 05/10/2012 7:26:52 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: Qbert

Hurting their recruitment efforts, is it?


25 posted on 05/10/2012 7:27:54 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Qbert

Democrats in California are evil incarnate.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 7:29:30 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Lazamataz

YOU ARE LEAVING THE UNITED STATES, PLEASE HAVE YOUR PASSPORT READY.”

AND LEAVE YOUR MORALS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. YOU ARE ABOUT TO ENTER SODOM AND GOMORAH.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 7:29:56 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: justice14

Is he young? Or just stupid?


28 posted on 05/10/2012 7:30:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Qbert

If you saw the neighbor boy trying to stick his penis in a knothole in the fence or into his cat, you’d yell at him for trying to mate with a knothole or a cat. But, if he sticks his penis into another man’s anal canal in an attempt to mate, or if a woman tries to mate with an electrified rubber instrument, that’s OK? They are as insane as a kid trying to mate with a knothole.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 7:30:57 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: FormerACLUmember
Democrats in California are evil incarnate.

I corrected your statement for spelling and grammar.

30 posted on 05/10/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

My age. 25ish. I would say more stupid. More relying on feelings than thinking. Very booksmart though. Just not logic smart. At all. We got into a huge debate about the Stand your ground thing in Florida as well.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 7:33:41 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: blueunicorn6
Hey! What do you have against knothole afficinados!!!

KNOTHOLOPHOBE!

Laz A. Mataz, Founder, Lovers Of Knotholes Organization (LOKO).

32 posted on 05/10/2012 7:33:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: justice14
K. I was an idiot at 25, vaguely liberal, mostly about pot because I was still using.

You are actually way ahead of the maturity curve.

Don't sweat your friend, he'll grow up, maybe.

33 posted on 05/10/2012 7:35:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t know about that. His dream would be to move to CA.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 7:40:50 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Qbert; Biggirl
This is why rebellion is growing folks.

Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places, but that's not what I'm seeing.

I'm seeing a bunch of submissive, listless sheep - i.e. the American people - sitting back and taking it all.

35 posted on 05/10/2012 7:41:38 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: justice14
Damn, dude, buy him the plane ticket!!!

Confine the madness to one section of the country!!!

36 posted on 05/10/2012 7:45:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: ZULU

Yep. It’s only going to happen if we make people aware ourselves. We can’t rely on the Republican leadership, sleepwalking through everything, to do anything of much substance.


37 posted on 05/10/2012 7:46:47 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Yeah...and they say the homosexuals JUST WANT to be able to GET MARRIED!


38 posted on 05/10/2012 7:46:47 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Lazamataz

Haha. That was my thinking. Let him go down with the sinking state of CA. He really doesn’t get it. He has a response to everything that baffles me so much, I can’t respond without running the response through my head for a few days.


39 posted on 05/10/2012 7:47:07 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: Qbert

People don’t understand how the “homosexual is good” worldview would fundamentally force the pagan/atheist paradigm and eject the Constitution which is based on The Laws of Nature and nature’s God. This “simple” issue would eliminate parental control over the worldview of their children—eliminate the Christian/judeo Ethics and sexualize children because they will be forced to learn about sex at age four when they are trying to classify and make sense of the world. This forced ideology that homosexuals can marry destroys logic and reasoning in children as was fixed in The Age of Reason and will make them focus on sex instead of intellectual pursuits.

We will eliminate true education as even understood by Rousseau and institute the sexualization of children like in pagan Greece were children were used for sex—mostly the boys and men. They will grow up with an obsession for sex like the boys in Afghanistan—who love sodomy with men. They can’t wait to have a harem of boys of their own when they grow up.

Read Brave New World—where mother and father are repulsive concepts and children are programed at birth and sexually active at 4. Ugly, inhumane world. It is Marxism —the utopian society.

Marxists need to destroy the natural family and God to get total control of the world. Children are easy to shape and mold and slaves of emotions and urges into believing anything is “Right and Good” if they are fed propaganda 24/7 by pedophiles and Glee programs and a school system which forces moral relativism—(there is no right and wrong, it is what “feels good”.


40 posted on 05/10/2012 7:55:14 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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