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Wreck found of Russia's new Superjet after it 'vanished' on Indonesia demo flight
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 10, 2012 | Richard Shears

Posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:47 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A Russian-made passenger plane crashed into a steep cliff on a long-dormant Indonesian volcano during a demonstration flight to potential buyers and journalists.

Its wreckage was spotted by helicopters today, but there was no sign of survivors among the 47 people on board. Search and rescue teams are now on their way to the crash site.

Family members, many of whom spent a long, sleepless night at the airport, broke down in tears on hearing the news today. Others stared blankly ahead in disbelief.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; cfit; crash; indonesia; planecrash; planes
"Twenty-one minutes after take-off, the crew asked for permission to descend from 10,000ft to 6,000ft, said Daryatmo." Interesting.
1 posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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Twenty-one minutes after take-off, the crew asked for permission to descend from 10,000ft to 6,000ft, said Daryatmo."

I wonder if the phrase "Allah-u Akbar" was said at any point.

2 posted on 05/10/2012 8:34:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

sightseeing?
at the demand of a customer?


3 posted on 05/10/2012 8:35:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sounds like that pilot got his flying training from a school of the same quality as the one that taught the Obamaloon his constitutional law.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 8:36:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://avherald.com/h?article=44f464f7&opt=0


5 posted on 05/10/2012 8:36:44 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ConservativeStatement

Controlled flight into terrain. AKA “flying into a cumulogranite cloud.” That’s what it sounds like.

}:-)4


6 posted on 05/10/2012 8:40:33 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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Left Seater: Da! Shut off the Stuffed Cloud Warning! Is just political concession to silly American FAA requirem.........


7 posted on 05/10/2012 8:42:21 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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"Twenty-one minutes after take-off, the crew asked for permission to descend from 10,000ft to 6,000ft, said Daryatmo." Interesting.

...too bad the mountain was 7,000 FT

8 posted on 05/10/2012 8:45:26 AM PDT by folkquest (Nothing is fool-proof because fools are so ingenious!)
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9 posted on 05/10/2012 8:46:41 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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The tragedy for those that lost their lives is the first thing that needs to be acknowledged.

Add to that the personal devastation the extra excitement of a first flight. It went from the extreme of a celebration to a tragic event.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 8:48:38 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ltc8k6
According to the pic there, they were just a little too low, maybe 200 feeet or so.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 8:49:27 AM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Maybe a faulty vacuum tube used in the jet’s circuit caused this?


12 posted on 05/10/2012 8:50:08 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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...during a demonstration flight to potential buyers and journalists.

THAT didn't go well.

13 posted on 05/10/2012 8:51:21 AM PDT by Noumenon (If people saw socialists for what they truly are, slaughter would ensue - in self-defense.)
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To: citizen

oops, the pic did not post. Well, you can see it at the link above, part way down the page.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 8:52:10 AM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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well. lemmesee... the mountains are at 7,000, pilot is descending to 6,000....
this is supposed to be some kind of ‘superplane’...
bet they were gonna demonstrate some gadget that would keep the plane from crashing in to a mountain...
if so, didn’t work.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 8:56:01 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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—The tragedy for those that lost their lives is the first thing that needs to be acknowledged.—

I disagree. They’re dead. It’s their loved ones for whom we should mourn.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 8:56:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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well. lemmesee... the mountains are at 7,000, pilot is descending to 6,000....
this is supposed to be some kind of ‘superplane’...
bet they were gonna demonstrate some gadget that would keep the plane from crashing in to a mountain...
if so, didn’t work.


17 posted on 05/10/2012 8:56:29 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Da Coyote

The pilot was Sukhoi’s leading Pilot, with over 10,000 hours. He was also an ex-fighter test pilot.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 8:56:35 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: ConservativeStatement

This man was seen going through security.. He insisted there was nothing funny about his cane.

19 posted on 05/10/2012 9:02:25 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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"The tragedy for those that lost their lives is the first thing that needs to be acknowledged.

"Add to that the personal devastation the extra excitement of a first flight. It went from the extreme of a celebration to a tragic event."

Indeed! No humor in this event, none at all.

20 posted on 05/10/2012 9:17:06 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: ConservativeStatement

“The aircraft was on a promotional tour dubbed the ‘Asian Roadshow’ which was aimed at lifting Russia’s hopes of emerging from its gloomy history of crashes involving ageing Soviet-era aircraft.”

The comments on the site indicate that it was likely the plane flew low to show off the mountains and terrain to it’s passengers. Sad. The plane might have been a good one but it was poor judgement on the part of the pilot. Poor safety culture is what they call it.

I do feel sorry for everyone who died, unneccessary. My condolences to those who mourn them.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 9:21:56 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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Wasn’t there some new news or update several days ago about that mysterious Polish air crash...?


22 posted on 05/10/2012 9:24:22 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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Where have the grieving journalists been?

Whenever a journalist is killed reporting an event, especially war, a half dozen or more others interrupt their usual programming to commiserate.

If there had been jornalists on the plane, I would have expected to see tears from their comrades well before now.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 9:27:58 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: citizen
Air Traffic Controller Capitano Francesco Schettini to Pilot Igor. Tower to Igor. Over.

Take her in as low as you wanna for the fly-by. Atsa right. Low asa you wanna go. Roger that. Itsa Low, OK? Plenty'o'room. Schettini Tower, out.

Hey, I wonder if I could take-a my cruise ship into a volcano. Passa da vino.

24 posted on 05/10/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

really doubt that flying your plane into the side of a mountain will boost sales, but I could be wrong


25 posted on 05/10/2012 9:44:13 AM PDT by blastdad51 (Typical middle-aged white patriot.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Isn’t that Obama?


27 posted on 05/10/2012 10:00:32 AM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I was thinking the same thing, they were talking about going low to show off a good view of the mountains.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 10:05:53 AM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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To: citizen

The pilots must have graduated from the “JFK Jr. School of Flying”.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 10:07:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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Nah, the Kennedy’s had a thing for water.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 10:11:45 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: treetopsandroofs

I didn’t hear about it. Maybe someone else knows.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 11:30:45 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

What is the first indication your plane has hit a mountain?

(Old fighter pilot joke, based on the location of the pitot tube at the nose of most aircraft)

The airspeed indicator suddenly drops to zero...!

As for why this happened, there is a well-known risk of flying through cumulo-granite clouds. But only the black boxes will know for sure.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 11:31:20 AM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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But only the black boxes will know for sure

Two things, first, black box is a racist term. LOL. Second how would Black Box know what happened?


33 posted on 05/10/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: dfwgator
Q:
What did JFK, Jr. and a Penguin have in common?

A:
Both looked splendid in a tuxedo, and neither could fly.

34 posted on 05/10/2012 7:53:53 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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