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Gay marriage support: Obama's most courageous move (Mega hurl alert)
CNN ^ | May 10, 2012 | Charles Kaiser

Posted on 05/10/2012 8:46:18 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama's blockbuster announcement that he is in favor of full marriage equality is the most courageous thing he has done since he entered the White House three and a half years ago. Coming after his successful strategy to get Congress to repeal don't ask, don't tell so that gays and lesbians can serve openly in the military and the decision of his Justice Department to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act in federal courts, he has now done nearly as much for gay people as Lyndon Johnson did for African-Americans with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

~snip~

When informed of the president's action by CNN.com, (former NYC mayor) Koch said, "Someone should write a play about this -- there's so much drama here!"

"The question will be, was he pushed, or are these his real feelings?" Koch continued. "I believe this is how he really feels. I commend him for doing this."

The former mayor pointed out that until today, the president was getting the "worst of both worlds" by continuing to say that his feelings were evolving on this subject. "He was evolving into dust. And now he has evolved into a major figure who should be thanked by the country." Among the president's most fervent supporters, a latent fear remains that this announcement could cost him the election. But a new feeling offers gigantic compensation: the conviction that we really did elect a genuinely transformational president.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: courage; homosexualagenda; leadingfrombehind; marriage; obama
God help us all.
1 posted on 05/10/2012 8:46:23 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Among the president's most fervent supporters, a latent fear remains that this announcement could cost him the election.

Ya think?

2 posted on 05/10/2012 8:50:57 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Rennes Templar

I am certain it takes much LESS courage to pander than it does to succeed without pandering!!!


3 posted on 05/10/2012 9:04:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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After I win re-election I will be able to be more flexible


4 posted on 05/10/2012 9:06:44 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“Latent”? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


5 posted on 05/10/2012 9:07:53 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Rennes Templar

“Gutsiest move I ever saw, Mav.”


6 posted on 05/10/2012 9:17:08 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Explorer89

certainly gutsier than taking out osama by himself....


7 posted on 05/10/2012 9:25:46 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Rennes Templar

President Barack Obama’s blockbuster announcement that he is in favor of full marriage equality is the most courageous thing he has done besides getting head from Larry Sinclaire in exchange for crack.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 9:38:39 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Can anyone explain to me why the media, movie, political elites are so enthralled with making it legal for a man to stick his ‘Johnson’ into another man’s orifice?


9 posted on 05/10/2012 9:43:03 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Rennes Templar

Remember the same stories from the left celebrating Dick Chaney’s statement 3 years ago?


10 posted on 05/10/2012 9:45:06 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It won’t cost him anything. Romney supports it too.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 9:46:03 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Rennes Templar

Biden’s foot-in-mouth disease force Obama to come out of the closet 6 months earlier than planned. He was ‘evolving’ to cater to his gay donors and patrons but wanted the ambiguity in place to straddle voters.

Now that’s over. This was not courage but a forced exposure of Obama’s ongoing political calculation.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 9:54:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: xzins

“It won’t cost him anything. Romney supports it too.”

What are you babbling about?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57431100-503544/romney-affirms-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage/

(CBS News) FORT LUPTON, Colo. - Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Wednesday said he unequivocally opposes “marriage between people of the same gender,” drawing a contrast to President Obama’s “evolving” position on the issue.
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Romney, in another interview on Wednesday, told CBS affiliate KCNC in Denver: “My position is the same on gay marriage as it’s been well, from the beginning, and that is that marriage is a relation between a man and a woman. That’s the posture that I had as governor and I have that today.”


13 posted on 05/10/2012 9:57:38 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: WOSG

He signed, rather than vetoed, gay marriage legislation in Massachusetts.

Shall I look it up for you?


14 posted on 05/10/2012 9:59:28 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

that is beyond pathetic. The Mass supreme court IMPOSED gay marriage. All Romney and others did was comply with supreme court orders rather than create a constitutional crisis he would lose. He was opposed then to gay marriage, indicated opposition to the ruling the day it was made, advocated to overturn and limit the rulings impact, and has been consistently opposed to it ever since and is opposed now.

Shall I look it up for you?

He does all that and you go around falsely spouting about him being for SSM because of what the mass supreme court did. Un-freaking-believable. That’s like saying Reagan was pro-abortion because the supreme court upheld Roe v Wade.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 10:08:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Rennes Templar

It was almost fun watching CNN reporters and interviewees doing everything but wetting their pants over Obama’s announcement.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 10:15:58 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Parmy

“Can anyone explain to me why the media, movie, political elites are so enthralled with making it legal for a man to stick his ‘Johnson’ into another man’s orifice?”

Simple: It’s fits in with their agenda of sympathy for supposed victims, the supposed oppressed, the amoral and the degenerate.


17 posted on 05/10/2012 10:27:16 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: WOSG
The Mass supreme court IMPOSED gay marriage. All Romney and others did was comply with supreme court orders rather than create a constitutional crisis he would lose

No, the court itself said it had no legal authority to force gay marriage into law. If Romney had refused to sign legislation legalizing gay marriage, there is nothing the court could have done. Courts can't create laws.

There is big difference between that and a court striking down a law.

18 posted on 05/10/2012 11:43:53 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: WOSG
Given how many times Romney has flip-flopped on multiple issues, why should we believe him? He is already backing off his previous support (through surrogates) for a Federal Marriage Amendment.
19 posted on 05/10/2012 11:46:59 AM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: Rennes Templar

The only real effect of the announcement is that homosexuals, who were going to vote for Obama anyway, won’t have second thoughts when they place a “Forward” bumper sticker on their Audis and Subarus.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 11:59:16 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: WOSG

Go here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2865617/posts

“Is Mitt Romney the Father of Gay Marriage”

Go to the links.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 12:18:46 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Kazan

Wow. That’s 100% Wrong. You havent read the court ruling nor understand it.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 12:47:36 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Kazan

Romney has consistently opposed SSM.

The flip-flopper on this issue is Obama.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 12:48:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: xzins

The correct answer to the question is “No”.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 12:50:49 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: WOSG
Romney has consistently opposed SSM.

No, that is what he has consistently said. But, signing gay marriage into law in Massachusetts indicates he is a liar.

25 posted on 05/10/2012 1:24:29 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: WOSG

Courts can’t force legislators into creating laws, period.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 1:25:03 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: GSWarrior

Good point. Now we know what he was really talking about with “forward”.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 1:39:12 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

I think that the idea for Obama’s “Forward” and MSNBC’s “Lean Forward” were hatched at the same meeting by some of the same people.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 1:50:39 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: WOSG

Try not to be so succinct next time. You leave me nothing to argue with.

:>)


29 posted on 05/10/2012 5:09:04 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

Sorry.

:-)


30 posted on 05/10/2012 6:11:57 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: Kazan

Wrong again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodridge_v._Department_of_Public_Health

“In a 50-page, 4–3 ruling on November 18, 2003,[3] the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court found that the state may not “deny the protections, benefits and obligations conferred by civil marriage to two individuals of the same sex who wish to marry.”

The court gave the State Legislature 180 days to “take such action as it may deem appropriate” before issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.[1]”


31 posted on 05/10/2012 6:22:45 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: WOSG
The court gave the State Legislature 180 days to “take such action as it may deem appropriate”

A court has no legal authority to force legislators into making laws.

32 posted on 05/17/2012 12:27:04 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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