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Tim Larkin Banned from Britain
The Blaze ^ | 5/10/12 | The Blaze

Posted on 05/10/2012 9:34:45 AM PDT by dagogo redux

Tim Larkin, a successful self-defense instructor, has been banned from entering the U.K. because, in the words of MP Rosie Cooper: “He teaches extreme and violent self-defense that is unwelcome [in Britain].”

One of Larkin’s philosophies, according to the Telegraph, is: “violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it’s the only answer.” His website elaborates:

The truth is… your best self defense in a life-or-death confrontation is injuring the other guy. And it’s the one thing that makes us so different.

Because, when you…

Try to keep yourself from being stabbed – you’ll get stabbed.

Try to avoid being shot – and you’ll get shot.

It’s the dirty little secret every predator knows but no one in the self defense world talks about.

When facing violence on the street today, the only thing guaranteed to get you out alive is injuring your assailant.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banned; england; larkin; selfdefense
I've trained with Tim. He's a great instructor, and a great man. The best training I've ever had. Skills and attitudes that will keep you alive, without all the BS of "martial arts".

Knowing that, if needed, I can accomplish the same thing at close range without a gun as I can with one - just as effectively and probably more efficiently - has been a great education. It's an education I hope I will never need, but if I need it some day the training has become instinctual now, and will be ready in an instant.

That Britain banned Tim is not surprising, knowing what Britain has become, but it is their loss a a nation. Fortunately, the Brits have a lot of time off, and can come here to take his training. Even just studying and practicing his DVD courses - if they aren't also banned in Britain - would be well worth their while, and worth the while of anyone reading this as well.

1 posted on 05/10/2012 9:34:47 AM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: dagogo redux

Bump


2 posted on 05/10/2012 9:39:12 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: dagogo redux

He joins the ranks of Michael Savage. AFAIK, he’s still banned from entering the UK.

The UK is circling the drain. Give them about one or two more generations and it then will be called Londonistan.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 9:39:43 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: dagogo redux

>> violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it’s the only answer

Pithy. Tagline material.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 9:49:37 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: dagogo redux

Stupid decision.

I think its the supposed emphasis on ‘killing and maiming’ that has got the HO all hot and bothered. I expected this from the last govt, not this one (mind you, is it a Tory decision, or forced on them by their Lib Dem coalition partners?).

There seemed to be some controversy about his last visit and course.

To be honest, none of us here have heard of him until today.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 9:52:34 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Nervous Tick

It is indeed. In fact I’m going to use it.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 9:53:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, itÂ’s the only answer.)
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To: dagogo redux

Who do you all think will eventually conquer the UK? A society that inculcates such cowardice in its population can’t stand for long.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 9:53:10 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yeah, if we are circling the drain, you are right there holding on to our coattails. You are a bigger cesspool than we will ever be.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 9:54:08 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: dagogo redux

Even 76% of Guardian readers think this is a bad decision.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 9:55:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

The UK is leading the death of the West not the other way around.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 9:56:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman
You are a bigger cesspool than we will ever be.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

11 posted on 05/10/2012 10:00:16 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline For Sale)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yeah right.

S*it economy, President with the middle name of Hussein, a gun death number over THIRTY TIMES HIGHER than the UK (approx 900 deaths to approx 30000), gun murder rate almost TWENTY times higher (900 to 14500), 75% of all the world’s uncaught serial killers, a rape rate far higher than the UK, an education system that is being overtaken by countries where English isnt the first language......

Nah, the good old US will go t*ts up before we do.
We might do, but you will be first.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; dynachrome

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13 posted on 05/10/2012 10:07:53 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

We should have let Savage in.
Then promptly ignored the blowhard.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 10:11:48 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I am very fond of America and Americans.
Very fond.

My posts in this thread are a counterattack at Jack Hydrofoil or whatever his name is. Dont read too much into them. Its just a Yank and a Limey slagging each other off for fun.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 10:13:51 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: dagogo redux
Rosie Cooper: “He teaches extreme and violent self-defense that is unwelcome [in Britain].”

So when are you going to banish James Bond 007?

16 posted on 05/10/2012 10:16:24 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: the scotsman
gun death number, gun murder rate

Demographics.

17 posted on 05/10/2012 10:28:24 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline For Sale)
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To: Red Steel

Cooper is a Labour MP who publicly criticised a state funeral for Thatcher. She is type of insipid wool-brained MP that lost Labour the election. I am disappointed Teresa May listened to her and any other idiot.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 10:30:48 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Clock King

“Who do you all think will eventually conquer the UK? A society that inculcates such cowardice in its population can’t stand for long.”
___________________________________________

Oh, they’re already conquered - first by their own socialists, and then by the globalists in Brussels.

The Muslims will simply be the next - and last - wave.

A great people destroyed with their own acquiescence shortly after “their finest hour.”

BTW, check out http://www.targetfocustraining.com


19 posted on 05/10/2012 10:33:48 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: the scotsman
To be honest, none of us here have heard of him until today.

Great - albeit unintentional - advertising.

On a another note; every Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman (is that how you say it?), I've worked with, has lamented the UK's gun laws and expressed envy of US gun laws.

What's your opinion of the general attitude of the population regarding gun control?

20 posted on 05/10/2012 10:38:59 AM PDT by Toadman (To piss off a conservative, tell a lie. To piss off a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: the scotsman

Actually the word I was searching for was “perception,” not opinion.

R
Toad


21 posted on 05/10/2012 10:40:04 AM PDT by Toadman (To piss off a conservative, tell a lie. To piss off a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: dagogo redux

From what I saw, it looks a lot like Krav Maga.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Toadman

Ambivalence.

The British public (contrary to American myth) has never been a gun-owning populace, so the gun bans were either popular or people really didnt care that much, as it wasnt relevant to them. They reacted to the Hungerford/Dunblane killings emotionally, and didnt perhaps grasp the bigger picture.

I supported the 1988 assault rifle band, and I was/am a gun owner (really the only ones buying those guns were Rambo types, no real British gun enthusiast owned them, preferring to own handguns, rifles new and old) BUT I thought

The Govt report after Dunblane actually called for tighter licensing not a ban, but the Tory govt wrongly bowed to pressure groups and muck-raking tabloids. I would have settled for tighter laws, if it meant handguns werent banned.

It sounds terrible, but it would have been better if Thomas Hamilton had killed those kids with an already illegal AK47 or MI6 or FLN. Handguns probably wouldnt have been banned then.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 10:51:29 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman
You are a bigger cesspool than we will ever be.

Oral hygiene alone says differently.

24 posted on 05/10/2012 10:51:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: dagogo redux

Sykes and Fairbairn are spinning in their graves.


25 posted on 05/10/2012 10:52:35 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Which is taking off ‘bigtime’ in the UK.....

I do it.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 10:53:02 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

cobra cat is also banned from travel there

27 posted on 05/10/2012 11:03:23 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: the scotsman

>>a gun death number over THIRTY TIMES HIGHER than the UK (approx 900 deaths to approx 30000), gun murder rate almost TWENTY times higher (900 to 14500), <<

Aye Lad, we don’t get upset by these numbers because 98% of the killings are people who need to be killed. That’s right punks killing punks, druggies killing druggies and criminals killing criminals. I don’t lose any sleep over such things.

Now if you all would keep your numbers the same way we do, you learn that yours don’t look so good either. Adding a number to the murder rate AFTER the trial is not the way we do it.

Give us a little time. We might just get the liberals and the commies out of our government yet, ya know.

Be well and bow to the Queen.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 11:04:43 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: the scotsman
S*it economy, President with the middle name of Hussein, a gun death number over THIRTY TIMES HIGHER than the UK (approx 900 deaths to approx 30000), gun murder rate almost TWENTY times higher (900 to 14500), 75% of all the world’s uncaught serial killers, a rape rate far higher than the UK, an education system that is being overtaken by countries where English isnt the first language......

I see this kind of thinking from Europeans all the time, and the primary reason is that Europeans simply do not understand the true nature of the United States at all. They tend to think of the US as being somewhat European in nature, given that it was more or less founded by people of European stock, and so view the issues the US has through a European lens. The truth is that the US is NOT European, and I mean that in the most fundamental cultural sense, as well as obvious demographics.

Americans, even the white ones, do not see the world as Europeans tend to see it. In fact, this great cultural battle that we are in at present is precisely between those "Americans" who want to live under the European model versus those who want to remain American, and the social and cultural rot we have been experiencing is directly due to the embrace of European attitudes and worldviews by a growing number of the population. If we went back to the core American values we had even 60 years ago, we would be healed overnight.

Your country, the UK, only survives without worse stats than the ones you quote for the US because you still have a largely homogeneous population. In the areas where your country has experienced high influxes of various immigrant groups, you are currently experiencing many of the same pathologies that you accuse the US of having, and in greater severity, perhaps eventually forcing you to understand the issues that the US has had to face since the beginning. Unlike Americans, however, as your government becomes more hostile to its own people, the British will have little means to resist the oppression. Americans, on the other hand, since the very first 4th of July, have always kept the possibility of the necessity of armed resistance to the government in the backs of our minds. It's part of our culture.
29 posted on 05/10/2012 11:17:13 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: the scotsman

And when the authorities said, “Mr. and Mrs. Britain, turn them all in!” these firearms were already registered and failure to turn them in would mean arrest & imprisonment.

Saw the vids from 1999. Helpless British subjects lined up to surrender their personal property without compensation, the police seizing these firearms & tossing them into barrels, to be destroyed later.

Now tell us ignorant Yanks how this has made Britannia a better world. Oh yes, and Anjem Choudary is still the single most powerful man in U.K.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 12:21:14 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: dagogo redux

Enslaved Britannia.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 12:43:00 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: elcid1970

‘Oh yes, and Anjem Choudary is still the single most powerful man in U.K.’

If you really believe that, you really do know SFA about Britain.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 12:46:19 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: B4Ranch

We do our numbers the way you do.

Anyway you cut it, we have about 900 gun deaths a year, mostly murders as opposed to accidents.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 12:47:56 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: fr_freak

Thank you for a superb reply.

Again, dont take my bashing of America too seriously or harshly, it was more a retort to Jack Hydrocortizone, who attacks the UK in every UK thread, it verges on the pathological with him.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 12:49:49 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: elcid1970

I am utterly bemused as to why you think Choudray is remotely powerful, the idea he is THE most powerful is so bizarre I am tempted to ask if you are on drugs.

The man is a nutter whose ‘power’ resides within a tiny amount of extremists based in London. Just because the UK media reports on him (and he has been quiet recently, oh the irony) doesnt mean he is powerful.


35 posted on 05/10/2012 12:55:19 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: dagogo redux

Chuck Norris, next..


36 posted on 05/10/2012 1:05:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I’m not personally familiar with Krav Maga, but I believe they are both “get ‘er done” in their spirit and execution: not interested in fighting, but in efficient, immediate incapacitation by death or serious injury.


37 posted on 05/10/2012 1:07:22 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: the scotsman

Touched a nerve, did I? Two replies for just one Choudary?

Well... maybe I should have said Mr. Choudary is the most feared man in Britain. He wants to be, that’s certain.

Actually, the most powerful Muslim in Britain is a member of the House of Lords. A few years ago Lord Achmed or whatever threatened to surround Parliament with 10,000 Muslim men if a female MP dared to screen a video about jihad terrorism. Fact.

But forget Anjem & his thugs who curse passersby who refuse their outthrust Islamic pamphlets. Islamic immigrants in Britain (why are Pakis honored with the term reserved usually for Chinese, Japanese, & Koreans?) have brought gangs, white slavery, drugs, riots, no-go districts, & female mutilation, just to name a few `issues’.

Muslims in America have Dearborn, Michigan, & that’s about it. They are mostly quiet elsewhere, especially here in the South where the Kuffar majority is or is perceived to be armed to the teeth.

Britons want to live disarmed & helpless before both authorities & criminals? Fine, except British gun control only really began to tighten after WW1 when Tommies returned with all sorts of souvenir weapons & when you get down to it, gun ownership & hunting in England is an upper class sort of thing, wasn’t it? Can’t have those peasants poaching on their ancestral estates, now can we?

Oh, did I mention that most Muslims here strongly favor confiscatory gun control? All of us armed “infidels”, after all.

1776 motto: “We owe allegiance to no crown!”


38 posted on 05/10/2012 3:29:41 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: the scotsman
a gun death number over THIRTY TIMES HIGHER than the UK (approx 900 deaths to approx 30000), gun murder rate almost TWENTY times higher (900 to 14500), 75% of all the world’s uncaught serial killers, a rape rate far higher than the UK,

If you look at the crime rates broken down by demographic, the homicide rate of non-Hispanic whites in the US is around what it is in Europe. But don't worry, your Muslim immigrants will be sure to get your crime rates (especially rape rates) up past ours. Currently, for burglaries and robberies England and Wales had more crimes per 100,000 people than the USA. Your rate for "hot" burglaries (burglary of an occupied residence) is much higher than the US's -- possibly because burglars there are much less likely to face an armed homeowner protected by the Castle Law.

39 posted on 05/10/2012 3:47:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: dagogo redux

Reference bump. ;-)


40 posted on 05/10/2012 6:09:24 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: elcid1970

1—No, I simply wanted to add a bit on.

2-It was a journalist that claimed Lord Ahmed (the man IS an arse anyway), there isnt any proof he actually made the statement, he certainly never made it publicly.

And the film WAS shown, and there was no counterprotest by Ahmed or anyone else.

3—Lord Ahmed is currently suspended from the House of Lords and the Labour Party for his numerous controversies and his motormouth.

4—’1776 motto: “We owe allegiance to no crown!”’

Which is why you tried to make Washington ‘King of America’.

I prefer:

‘We fight this revolution to claim our rights as true Englishmen’-—Thomas Jefferson.


41 posted on 05/11/2012 1:01:27 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: dagogo redux

I’m mystified. I’ve trained under British self-defence instructors who have taught potentially lethal techniques (mainly centred around blows and chokeholds to the head and neck), and a lot of people I’ve trained with during these times have been coppers who I know wouldn’t have been happy being in the presence of illegality taking place in front of their eyes.

There must be more to this story...


42 posted on 07/03/2012 8:22:03 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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