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The Antietam of the Culture War
Townhall.com ^ | May 11, 2012 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/11/2012 3:35:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

It took Joe Biden's public embrace of same-sex marriage to smoke him out.

But after Joe told David Gregory of "Meet the Press" he was "absolutely comfortable" with homosexuals marrying, Barack Obama could not maintain his credibility with the cultural elite if he stuck with the biblical view that God ordained marriage as solely between a man and woman. The biblical view had to go.

Obama had to move, or look like a malingerer in secularism's next great moral advance into post-Christian America.

Consider. Obama had an appearance coming up on "The View," where Whoopi Goldberg would have demanded to know why he lacked the courage of Biden's convictions. He has a $40,000-a-plate fundraiser at George Clooney's, where the Hollywood crowd would want to know why he does not end discrimination against homosexuals.

He has appearances lined up before gay activists raising millions for his campaign. Monday, his press secretary was pilloried for his feeble defense of Obama's now-abandoned position.

His hand was forced. Yet the stand Obama took could cost him his presidency. Same-sex marriage may yet be a bridge too far, even for a dying Christian America.

On the plus side for Obama, his decision is producing hosannas from the elites and an infusion of cash from those who see same-sex marriage as the great moral and civil rights issue of our time.

But Obama may also have just solved Mitt Romney's big problem: How does Mitt get all those evangelical Christians and cultural conservatives not only to vote for him but to work for him?

Obama, by declaring that homosexual marriages should be on the same legal and moral plane as traditional marriage, just took command of the forces of anti-Christian secularism in America's Kulturkampf. And Nov. 6, 2012, is shaping up as the Antietam of the culture war.

Obama's second problem is that he may soon be seen as America's champion of same-sex marriage, but an ineffectual advocate. For Obama can do nothing, as of now, to impose homosexual marriage on the American people.

Thirty-one states have voted to outlaw it. A constitutional amendment supporting same-sex marriage could not win a majority of either house of Congress, let alone the necessary two-thirds of both.

Hence, Obama is going to spend six months winning cheers by calling for same-sex marriage. But the price of those cheers will be the rallying of millions of opponents of homosexual marriage, who will fight this battle where they are winning it, at the state level.

Only six states have approved homosexual marriage, while 30 have imposed a constitutional ban. In North Carolina, a ban not only on same-sex marriage but also civil unions, though opposed by Obama and Bill Clinton, carried on Tuesday with 61 percent of the vote.

Republican turnout in North Carolina's primary was up half a million, the highest in history. And this is a state Obama carried in 2008, a state whose largest city, Charlotte, will host Obama's convention.

Even in liberal California in 2008, while John McCain was getting a smaller share of the vote than Barry Goldwater in 1964, Proposition 8, restricting marriage to men and women, won.

How does Obama propose to win this battle?

He has one path to victory -- the Supreme Court.

The New York Times, declaring that homosexuals' right to marry is "too precious and too fragile to be left up to the whim of states and the tearing winds of modern partisan politics," is looking to the court as the last, best hope to impose same-sex marriage on the nation.

Can't trust voters, can't trust elected legislators, can't trust Congress. Homosexual marriage, says the Times, is too important to be left to democratic decision. The republic must be commanded to accept it by unelected judges who serve for life and against whom the people have no political recourse.

That process of judicial tyranny has begun. A California judge has overturned the decision of California's voters to ban gay marriage, and his ruling is headed for the high court.

The Supreme Court thus will tell us whether this issue is to be decided democratically by voters and their elected state and federal legislators, or dictatorially by themselves.

Four liberal activists on the Supreme Court -- Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor -- are probably ready to declare that homosexual marriage is a constitutional right, as their predecessors declared abortion to be a constitutional right.

But Obama needs one more justice. If elected, he will get it, and same-sex marriage will be forced on all of America. If Romney wins, the Supreme Court will likely leave the issue of same-sex marriage to be decided by the people and their elected representatives.

Thus everything is up for grabs this November: the House, the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court and whether we still call the United States of America God's country.

Game on!


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1 posted on 05/11/2012 3:35:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

God did not create Adam and Ralph.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 3:38:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Or Eve and Carol


3 posted on 05/11/2012 3:49:25 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

If this is Antietam, how about making sure McClellan pursues Lee back to the Potomac and beats the snot out of him this time rather than letting him get away to fight another day.


4 posted on 05/11/2012 3:52:36 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Kaslin
The moral outrage over this incident doesn't jibe with the DEAD silence of all the punditry when DADT was killed in the middle of the night with no fanfare protestations. The repeal of DADT was Shiloh, Antietam,Gettysburg and Appomattox all rolled into one.

Why does Limbaugh freely talk about this but NOTHING when DADT was on the chopping block, Rush is full of crap on this.

5 posted on 05/11/2012 3:55:32 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
This is not Antietam, this is Gettysburg on the third day.

The enemy is charging the bloody angle. They will fail, fall back and the tide of socialist perversion will begin to recede.

November will tell the tale. Take heart people, they will not win.

6 posted on 05/11/2012 4:02:45 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Kaslin
Same-sex marriage may yet be a bridge too far, even for a dying Christian America.

Sadly true...


Luke 18:8b
However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

7 posted on 05/11/2012 4:14:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Kaslin
But Obama may also have just solved Mitt Romney's big problem: How does Mitt get all those evangelical Christians and cultural conservatives not only to vote for him but to work for him?

He won't.

An 'evangelical Christian' will NOT be voting for evil; even though it is the lesser of it.

We will NOT give even a INKLING of 'approval' to a man who is deceived by a 'religion' that makes the unfounded claims that MORMONism does.

8 posted on 05/11/2012 4:19:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

It IS a long way ‘til November; isn’t it!


9 posted on 05/11/2012 4:20:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Genesis 19:4-5, 9

4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
 
9 “Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 posted on 05/11/2012 4:27:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
An 'evangelical Christian' will NOT be voting for evil; even though it is the lesser of it.

You are absolutely right. He will have to rely on the 'lukewarm'.

11 posted on 05/11/2012 4:31:01 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Venturer

Which one of those two did God not create?


12 posted on 05/11/2012 4:32:44 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, itÂ’s the only answer.)
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To: Kaslin

Game On for sure. I think Pat just stumbled on The Kenyan’s Lost Order #191.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 4:35:04 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: central_va
Once again, "Rush is right". Although both of the two issues relate to homosexuality, they actually are very different. DADT was a "creation" of Bill Clinton to get him a pass on an issue that he had promised his gay and lesbian supporters that he would deal with, but that he had not emphasized at all during the run up to the election. When it was the first item on his agenda upon taking office, the public was surprised and outraged. In 1992, the view of the general public was not as accepting of homosexuality that it is today. Clinton had to do something to have it both ways so he came up with DADT.

DADT was not a law passed by individual state legislatures or by a referendum by the people in those states. After the vote in NC on Tuesday, a total of 30 states have now made it clear that they view the term "marriage" to be appropriate only for unions between one man and one woman. The likelihood of getting enough states to ratify a same-sex marriage amendment to the Constitution is almost nil. A Supreme Court that would overturn a law that has been passed by 60% of the states would demonstrate that it is making a political and not a constitutional decision, although Pat is right that another pick by Obama would create a court that would have the audacity to do exactly that!

Many people do not realize that ANY sexual activity outside of marriage, whether heterosexual or homosexual, between members of the military is against the UCMJ because it disrupts unit cohesion. The primary purpose of the military is to fight wars, not serve as an incubator for social experimentation despite the desire of the liberals to use it as such. IMO, homosexual activity is potentially more disruptive to a unit because of the lack of privacy in the military where members of the same sex sleep in the same barracks, shower in open showers, and are crammed on in bunks stacked on top of each other on a ship or in a submarine.

14 posted on 05/11/2012 4:37:16 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: srmorton
Once again, "Rush is right".

On this issue Rush is/was a coward and a phoney. So was Fawn Vannity and Glenn Belch for that matter...

15 posted on 05/11/2012 4:44:56 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
But Obama may also have just solved Mitt Romney's big problem: How does Mitt get all those evangelical Christians and cultural conservatives not only to vote for him but to work for him?

Why in the world would we want to support the guy who was responsible for Fort Sumter?

16 posted on 05/11/2012 4:51:38 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: Elsie
I proudly voted for Newt and Amendment 1 in NC on Tuesday, but neither will be on the ballot in November. As the daughter of a minister, I have believed in Jesus since I could talk and the experiences in my 62 years of life have molded me into what I would call an evangelical Christian. I regularly participate in intensive Bible studies for women (Beth Moore is my favorite), I have sung in my church choir for years, and I brought up my children in Sunday School and Church. Mitt Romney is NOT my first or even second or third choice for the Republican nominee (in fact, I am one of those who believe Mormonism is by defintion a cult), but I will NOT be part of giving Obama a vote by default by refusing to vote for Mitt. The damage Obama has done to this nation in four short years is unbelievable and he can not be given the freedom to do even worse damage because he can not run for office again.
17 posted on 05/11/2012 4:54:37 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: srmorton

Amen, sister. I am with you on that 100%.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 5:22:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: srmorton

Thank you. Well spoken. Romney’s toes need to be held to the fire. If he doesn’t measure up, hit him with a strong primary challenger. But we simply cannot allow 4 more years of O.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 5:29:55 AM PDT by Scoutdad
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Substitute Meade for McClellan and the situation is much the same as at Antietam. We don’t need two more years of war when it should be finished off now.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 6:40:32 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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