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Washington state health officials declare whooping cough epidemic, seek CDC help as cases soar
AP ^ | May 10, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 05/11/2012 8:10:26 AM PDT by C19fan

Washington state’s worst outbreak of whooping cough in decades has prompted health officials to declare an epidemic, seek help from federal experts and urge residents to get vaccinated amid worry that cases of the highly contagious disease could spike much higher.

It’s the first state to declare a whooping cough, or pertussis, epidemic since 2010, when California had more than 9,000 cases, including 10 deaths. Washington has had 10 times the cases reported in 2011, and so has Wisconsin with nearly 2,000 cases this year, though that state has not declared an epidemic.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: vaccines; whoopingcough
The CDC claims the epidemic has nothing to do with Luddites who won't get vaccines for them and their children but I find it odd the outbreak is in birkenstock wearing Washington.
1 posted on 05/11/2012 8:10:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

whooping cough was all but extinct, until the “ Vaccines are killing out kids “ crowd got a voice...


2 posted on 05/11/2012 8:14:36 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: C19fan

The birkenstock crowd, like the Luddites, like to go natural. Not too surprising, really.


3 posted on 05/11/2012 8:14:39 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: C19fan

Probably most cases occur in communities with large immigrant populations. California, Wisconsin, and Washington all have large agricultural presences.

Just guessing...


4 posted on 05/11/2012 8:15:16 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

I was thinking the same thing but there is no mention of where the outbreaks are occurring in Washington.


5 posted on 05/11/2012 8:16:27 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: joe fonebone
whooping cough was all but extinct, until the “ Vaccines are killing out kids “ crowd got a voice.

Agreed. Then you add to that the illegals who are coming from countries where the population typically doesn't get such vaccinations, and you get an epidemic.

6 posted on 05/11/2012 8:17:48 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Tailback

You could be right, but the thing is that those kids who are school-age have to present their immunization records to the school nurse. In Texas public schools, you show ‘em (the records) or you hold ‘em (the kids) until you do. Then you have the whole truancy thing going on.

So, I wonder what age-group is hardest hit?


7 posted on 05/11/2012 8:21:27 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: C19fan

A friend of mine from church is still recovering from a bout with whooping cough...
she’s an adult, good health, never had a problem with it before...
and it knocked the daylights out of her...
very scarey.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 8:21:30 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: C19fan

A little red meat, a little sunshine and a lot less anger surrounding them could help.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 8:35:23 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: C19fan

How do you know it is in the Birkenstock-wearing demographic?


10 posted on 05/11/2012 8:44:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; C19fan
The least vaccinated county in California is Marin, which is the richest and most liberal. The least vaccinated schools on California are the private "progressive" schools. There is a very close correlation between being a highly educated liberal moron and not vaccinating your kid.

That said, I'm dad to say there are quite a few anti vaccine kooks here on free republic.

11 posted on 05/11/2012 9:11:18 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

I know kids need vac papers for school.

I will NEVER get a flu shot. Just saying.


12 posted on 05/11/2012 9:38:12 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: MrShoop

Yes, there are several Leftist FReepers here on FR.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 10:13:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; MrShoop

NOTE: I’M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD NOT GET VACCINATED - HAVE TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT UP FRONT TO AVOID TYPICAL RESPONSE FROM FOLKS WHO DO NOT READ ENTIRE POST

It’s amazing that a Freeper who will rail against government mandating a hundred things because the government says it’s good for you will suddenly turn an about-face when discussing injecting stuff into their children and themselves without being apprised of the risks (and there are risks).

And before you argue there are no risks, please explain the existence of the US vaccine court and the case files anyone can review showing findings and cash settlements. Then explain the fine print on the bottles themselves.

Once that’s done, you’ll actually be informed, and can proceed to take the shots as a citizen, not a subject, after making a choice to do so.


14 posted on 05/11/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: bicyclerepair
California, and I assume most other states, offer vaccine exemptions to parents. According to this excerpt from teh LA TImesin 2009, about 2% of Kindergarteners now use the waiver to get in without being vaccinated. I assume the number now is higher, and also some parents probably don't get the waiver and just fake the forms..

In all, more than 10,000 kindergartners started school last fall with vaccine exemptions, up from about 8,300 the previous school year. In 1997, when enrollment was higher, the number of exempted kindergartners was 4,318.

Statewide, only 2% of kindergartners had exemptions. But The Times found they were enrolled in a relatively small number of schools. Parents who sign affidavits saying vaccines are “contrary to my beliefs” are most likely to send their children to schools in affluent areas -- many of them public charter schools and non-Catholic private schools.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 10:34:25 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Do you have a link?


16 posted on 05/11/2012 10:39:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I wish it were just leftists here that were the vaccine kooks, but it seems to run deeper than that. Looking at the list of schools in California and their vaccination rate, a lot of the lowest rates seem to come from small christian academies.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/immunize/Documents/2010IZRateTable.pdf

17 posted on 05/11/2012 10:40:17 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

I can explain the existence of the vaccine court in one sentence: Idiots who don’t understand the difference between correlation and causation end up creating bureaucracies that waste everyone’s time and money.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 10:46:33 AM PDT by MrShoop
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To: C19fan
Here in Longmont Colorado, a whooping cough ‘epidemic’ is also being reported in the public schools. However, according to last night's news story, the concern is that many of the children that come down with whooping cough HAVE been vaccinated.
19 posted on 05/11/2012 10:55:32 AM PDT by CrashCole
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Link to US Gov site: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CHIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uscfc.uscourts.gov%2Fvaccine-programoffice-special-masters&ei=PFStT8rODYfs8wTi8Jz9DA&usg=AFQjCNH9Ftqqw3zsFM-VSySy3huXCgny-A.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 11:02:55 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: MrShoop
MrShoop's Ad Hominim Discussion Style:
Idiots who...
I don't really need to keep reading past this point, but I did anyway.

...don’t understand the difference between correlation and causation...
You have no facts to make this claim, and I'd guess you haven't researched this topic at all. You have a point of view, and no amount of reason will move you.

...end up creating bureaucracies that waste everyone’s time and money.
Congress created it, after specifically exempting vaccine makers from lawsuits. You'll say it was to stop shyster lawyers, I'll say it was to prevent the facts from coming out and risking the US population's herd immunity due to non-compliance, and we'd both be right.

21 posted on 05/11/2012 11:36:03 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Can you point me to the painkiller court how about the antibiotic court? Do you pay a $.75 tax on every prescription to be redistributed to people who claim they are affected by a side effect? There is no burden to show causation in the vaccine court.The whole thing is a sham and pandering to the anti science crowd.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 5:32:01 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
There is no burden to show causation in the vaccine court.

Really, and you know this how? Be very specific, since you might be swapping posts with someone who knows much more about this topic than you, having witnessed a start to finish case FIRST HAND. Someone who knows that the system is heavily weighted against the plaintiff, ludicrously so.

Your argument style consists of assertions without facts - you really need to read a book or something or take a debate class. You're never too old to learn something.

23 posted on 05/11/2012 7:20:14 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: CrashCole
the concern is that many of the children that come down with whooping cough HAVE been vaccinated.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not everyone who receives a vaccination responds by building antibodies against the disease. For instance, I have been fully vaccinated against Hepatitis B, but never responded to the vaccine. My friend's son, who was vaccinated against measles, contracted the disease because he never responded to the vaccine.

What protects the entire community, and the “non-responders” is Herd Immunity.

When enough people are vaccinate, who do respond, then the communicable disease has little opportunity to jump from one person to another. Herd immunity increases the likelihood that those who have not responded to the vaccine will not have contact with the disease causing organism. Herd Immunity reduces the chances of an full-blown epidemic.

24 posted on 05/11/2012 7:34:08 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
You compain about sources, while not posting a single one yourself? A little hypocritical?

See paragraph 5 of this article from the New England Journal of Medicine.. Don't get hung up on presence of the word causal, just note how they define it. Note that the standard is lower than for product liability, and all that is needed is to show that a symptom matches one of the listed side effects. That a vaccine court even exists is proof of a certain anti-vaccine hysteria... The vaccine court is only biased against plaintiff if the adverse effect isn't on the list of known effects, which is as it should be. It is biased toward the plaintiff if the claim is on the list because there is presumptive causation based on that correlation, which was my point.

To win a VICP award, the claimant does not need to prove everything that is required to hold a vaccine maker liable in a product liability lawsuit. But a causal connection must be shown. If medical records show that a child had one of several listed adverse effects within a short period after vaccination, the VICP presumes that it was caused by the vaccine (although the government can seek to prove otherwise). An advisory committee helps to amend the list of adverse effects as the consensus view changes with the availability of new studies. If families claim that a vaccine caused an adverse effect that is not on the list, the burden of proof rests with them. Autism is not on the list for any vaccine, and the VICP has rejected about 300 such claims outright.
source: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp078168

To clear one thing up, are you part of the vaccine causes autism crowd or not? The vaccine court issue is a distraction to the bigger issue: the bogus claim that vaccines cause autism, which is scaring people away from having their children vaccinated...

25 posted on 05/12/2012 1:36:48 AM PDT by MrShoop
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