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Liberty's choice of Romney leads to angry student response
CNN ^ | 20 Apr 12 | Laura Bernardini and Dan Merica

Posted on 05/11/2012 9:36:17 AM PDT by xzins

Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose adherents are called Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school's Facebook page about the Thursday announcement - a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

“I can’t support Romney and I am happy I decided not to walk (in the commencement) this year,” wrote student Josh Bergmann. “Liberty University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult. Shame on you Liberty University.”

A recent Pew Research Center survey finds that nearly half (47%) of white evangelicals say that Mormonism is not a Christian religion. Sixty-six percent responded the Mormonism and their religion are “very or somewhat different.”

The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult. They specifically cite differences in theology surrounding salvation, baptism, belief in the Trinity, and marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; protest; romney; romneytruthfile

1 posted on 05/11/2012 9:36:22 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Mitt Romney - GOP disaster in progress.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 9:43:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: xzins

To me the bigger concern to these Christians should be Romney’s support for gay “marriage” and abortion. I agree that Mormons aren’t Christians, but if Romney were actually a conservative that wouldn’t bother me.


3 posted on 05/11/2012 9:45:08 AM PDT by Elvina ("My den is much safer that being out here when the sky is falling." said Foxy Mitt Loxy)
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To: xzins

Obviously, xzins, these students are “severely” Christian.

Romney says he is not fine with “gay marriage”, but says he is fine with child adoption by gay couples.

That would be because they can’t vote!

These two evils, Romney and Obama, place children in danger.

Praying for a miracle. An intervention of Mercy!


4 posted on 05/11/2012 9:46:40 AM PDT by RitaOK (Nevermind, Newt. Forget the convention. I'm trusting God for the rest.)
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To: xzins
How would we react, as Christians, if Rick Santorum spoke at Brandeis or Yeshiva, or even Brigham Young, and someone was quoted was saying “why have a speaker who believes in a pedophilia cult speak at our university?” We would consider it childish as we should.
5 posted on 05/11/2012 9:48:33 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: xzins
The nation’s largest evangelical denomination, the Southern Baptist Conference, lists the LDS Church as a cult.

As does the nation's largest Catholic organization - the Catholic church itself.

6 posted on 05/11/2012 9:48:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, I'll rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: xzins

Romney set out to take over the GOP and run for president, to get revenge against conservatives, and to legitimize Mormonism. The man is living his dream as conservatives and Christians fall all over themselves legitimizing him.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 9:48:49 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: Elvina

I know I’m not concerned about him being mormon but the gay adoption thing is even worse than gay marriage.

Every time Romney opens his mouth Joe Biden pops out like a damn cuckoo clock


8 posted on 05/11/2012 9:50:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Elvina

I agree. If Romney were a conservative, I wouldn’t care about his religion.

In actuality, from comments I read it was clear that the “mormon” angle wasn’t the only reason Romney is being protested as the Liberty U commencement speaker.

However, none of the articles would mention anything other than the “mormon” complaints.

So, I figured it better to show that Liberty is not truly embracing Romney with open arms, than to wait for a perfect article.

That said, I wonder if there are any quotes by Romney about Jerry Falwell that could be found. I’m betting they would be terribly disrespectful.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 9:50:34 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Perdogg

That was silly.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 9:51:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: Perdogg

I must be reading your post wrong. I keep getting that Santorum stands for pedophilia. Did you write that the way you wanted to?


11 posted on 05/11/2012 9:53:31 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: cripplecreek

Evangelical Christians will not vote for Romney,in my opinion;they will stay home or vote third-party or leave the president spot blank(and the Dhimms will insist any blank ballot was a mistake and they intended to vote obama).

There will not be a Mormon President Romney.THere shouldn’t have been a Muslim President obama but the American people didn’t listen when he actually spoke a truth and said”my Muslim faith”.No reporter “corrected” Romney about his statements of faith.


12 posted on 05/11/2012 9:55:20 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: ansel12

I believe Romney is part of the new 3rd way GOP-e that wants to remove social issues from any GOP platform.

I suspect many have bought into atheism and agnosticism, and traditional social issues all originate in Christian morality.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 9:56:43 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
Are you putting what I am saying in correct context? I hope so. Of course I am not saying that Santorum believes or supports pedophilia.
14 posted on 05/11/2012 10:05:08 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: hoosierham

“Evangelical Christians will not vote for Romney,in my opinion;they will stay home or vote third-party or leave the president spot blank(and the Dhimms will insist any blank ballot was a mistake and they intended to vote obama).”

It would be nice if they actually were good at something other than losing.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 10:05:30 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: hoosierham

My Evangelical Christian friends will vote for Romney for two words - Children and Grandchildren! If we leave this country in Obama’s hands another 4 years - it will be irreversible - which is what they would be doing if they voted for a 3rd party or stayed home.... Sad to have only those two choices but it is what it is.....


16 posted on 05/11/2012 10:07:25 AM PDT by Momto2 (Love my Auburn Tigers! War Eagle!!!)
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To: xzins

Yes, the press would choose to focus on the religion and not the myriad of other differences that separate Mr. Romney from any serious Christian, or serious Mormom for that matter. I have encountered devout Mormons who carefully explain how Romney’s positions don’t even reflect the Mormon position on family matters.


17 posted on 05/11/2012 10:11:08 AM PDT by Elvina ("My den is much safer that being out here when the sky is falling." said Foxy Mitt Loxy)
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To: Momto2
My Evangelical Christian friends will vote for Romney for two words - Children and Grandchildren!

Your evangelical friends are OK with gay adoption?
18 posted on 05/11/2012 10:12:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: xzins

Everything is playing out just as the Elite Republicans knew it would,xzins.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 10:20:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: xzins

Thanks for re-posting this. Those kids are showing more discernment than the head of the school, Jerry Falwell, Jr.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 10:26:32 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Momto2

But God comes before country, does He not?


21 posted on 05/11/2012 10:28:34 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: RitaOK

“but says he is fine with child adoption by gay couples.”

This week.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 10:31:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Perdogg

I’m sorry, perdogg. I must not be reading it right. You wouldn’t mind trying to rephrase it for us old and feeble-minded would you? :>)


23 posted on 05/11/2012 10:34:06 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins

You are not feeble minded. I was saying that if Rick Santorum, or Newt Gingrich, were to speak at a university whose religious affiliation was non-catholic, I would consider it as inappropriate if a student incorrectly asserted that Rick had no right to speak because he supported a “bunch of pedophiles in the catholic church”. That’s all. Even though I don’t agree with MR all of the time, I consider the students comments regarding Mormonism and cults as being inappropriate in my opinion.


24 posted on 05/11/2012 10:48:56 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: xzins

Jerry Fawlwel could vote for romney, I think this is another hit article.

legit concerns yes, but this is utter BS.

(would they protest simon wesenthal? The Pope?


25 posted on 05/11/2012 12:06:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: xzins

That goes without saying.

However look at the article’s source. CNN

CNN has to create / simulate / argue for division among republican. It is one thing to do it on FR where the MSM shys away.

CNN is creating a tempist in a teacup and reporting it as a hurricane.

The only person who believes CNN is shepard smith. Not even CNN believes CNN.


26 posted on 05/11/2012 12:14:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Perdogg

I’ve got it. LOL. You were saying that since Santorum supports the Catholic Church then some numbnutz might say, “Since the CC has pedophiles, then Santorum must support pedophiles.”

Thanks.


27 posted on 05/11/2012 1:27:14 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
"Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds." (2 John [1:]8-11)

A vote is a far cry more than a greeting like "God speed." We do not have to vote for devils or antichrists and by so doing "partake in their evil deeds."

28 posted on 05/11/2012 2:52:42 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: cripplecreek

Of course not! Just as there were things we disagreed with President Bush about - (immigration) BUT we are in danger of *losing* our country for our children. We are to be innocent but wise!! I wish I had the luxury of voting only for a candidate who was ideal - but unfortunately - we don’t have one of those on the ballot this time.... so I must do what is best between the choices I have....

I am sure others will have different opinions - I was sharing mine and those of my Evangelical friends - I have been involved in the church and politics for about 30 years now.....

Have a blessed Day!


29 posted on 05/12/2012 12:25:09 PM PDT by Momto2 (Love my Auburn Tigers! War Eagle!!!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
But God comes before country, does He not?

He sure does! I still stand by my statement - I was commenting on my friends and how they are looking at the choices we have this time and what it means for our children and grandchildren!

30 posted on 05/12/2012 12:27:06 PM PDT by Momto2
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