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The Rights of Indigenous People and the Rest of Us-UN wants us to give Mt. Rushmore to the Indians
American Thinker ^ | May 11, 2012 | Shoshana Bryen

Posted on 05/11/2012 11:22:24 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah

In early 2011, President Obama announced that the United States would sign the U.N. Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.  Now the U.N. wants us to give Mt. Rushmore to the Indians.  James Anaya, U.N. special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, spent twelve days in the U.S. meeting with representatives of Native Americans.  Returning to Geneva, he urged the government to turn over control of lands considered sacred to the tribes, including the Mt. Rushmore site.

It was bound to happen.

With typical overstatement, the president said as he announced U.S. participation in the Declaration, "The aspiration it affirms, including respect for the institutions and rich cultures of native peoples, are ones we must always seek to fulfill."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanindians; obama; un

1 posted on 05/11/2012 11:22:33 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

I’m indigenous. My family has lived here for centuries - I’m a decedent of John and Priscilla Alden.

Can I please have Mt. Rushmore?

And Wall Drug.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 11:24:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Give us back the UN Building, then we’ll talk.


3 posted on 05/11/2012 11:24:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Mt Rushmore is “public property” - meaning it already belongs to everyone.


4 posted on 05/11/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: Ooh-Ah

—Now the U.N. wants us to give Mt. Rushmore to the Indians.—

That’s kind of a funny statement. I don’t believe it is theirs to give.


5 posted on 05/11/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Tzimisce
Mt Rushmore is “public property” - meaning it already belongs to everyone.

Hey! Mt. Rushmore should be given back to the tribe of Jews who migrated to the New World according to Mormons. It was later taken by the Indians. This must be resolved.

6 posted on 05/11/2012 11:28:32 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Ooh-Ah

The Black Hills, which is where Mt. Rushmore is located, were indeed stolen from the Sioux in flagrant violation of a solemn treaty. As attested by a Supreme Court decision which ordered the US to pay compensation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Sioux_Nation_of_Indians

The Sioux have refused to accept the money because they want their land back instead.

The question is not one of whether the land was stolen, that’s just a fact. It’s one of how to handle things now.

Of course, the Sioux had not too long before stolen the Black Hills from the Cheyenne, who had stolen it from the Kiowa.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 11:37:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ooh-Ah

They would probably do much better with a casino gambling and tax-free cigarette concession for the site.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 11:42:51 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Long ago the government set up a fund to pay for that site. The indians refuse to accept the money. The fund is worth most of a billion dollars now.

I think the Indians who make the claim to the area lived around Cahokia through most of the 1500s, so unless they got a title from the King of Spain, their title is suspect.

9 posted on 05/11/2012 11:45:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sherman Logan

Not once did they apply for a LAND GRANT from the King who owned the site outright as a personal possession.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 11:46:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Come to any indian reservation in Montana and see how they take care of all their free stuff.


11 posted on 05/11/2012 11:47:50 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Anything to crap on whitie. That’s our president. The most anti american president ever. Hell, why ask for Mt. Rushmore. Why not NY CITY, LA, CHICAGO (forget Chicago)


12 posted on 05/11/2012 11:55:36 AM PDT by spawn44
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To: dfwgator

[ Give us back the UN Building, then we’ll talk. ]

Maybe we could buy the building back from the U.N. with one bead...


13 posted on 05/11/2012 12:06:47 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: laweeks
Don't forget those “Indian's” came from the middle of Russia.
14 posted on 05/11/2012 12:12:52 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart
Don't forget those “Indians” came from the middle of Russia.

So, now we're going to give Mt. Rushmore back to the Japanese? Now I'm confused.

15 posted on 05/11/2012 12:20:45 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: muawiyah

True enough. Lots of Hispanic “land rights” claims in the SW are based exactly on such grants.

Which would seem to conflict a good deal with the Indian claims.

But consistency never bothers those who are out to stick it to whitey.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 12:21:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I’m 1/4 Cheyenne, does that mean I get some of Mt. Rushmore too?


17 posted on 05/11/2012 12:21:48 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Sherman Logan

American Indian tribes were a lot like Muslims.

They took land from weaker tribes and then clam it as “sacred”.

Current PC history would have us believe that the Indians all lived in harmony with one another and that conquest was something introduced by European invaders. Nothing could be further from the truth.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 12:34:08 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man

I have never understood those who claim this primordial state of peace.

What do they think will happen to a “peaceful” tribe that’s unfortunate enough to live near a “warlike” tribe?

The peaceful tribe will disappear, is what. Unless they get warlike real quickly.

A tremendously un-PC example is the Moriori, a tribe of the same people as the Maori of New Zealand, but who had been isolated on distant islands for centuries. They had developed an ethic of peace, love and understanding.

A Maori tribe from mainland NZ hired whalers to take them to the Chathams and then promptly raped, enslaved, killed and ate the pacifist Moriori. Hopefully in that order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori_people

A truly excellent book is War Before Civilization by Lawrence H. Keeley, in which he demonstrates to anyone but those determined not to see the proof that almost all “indigenous cultures” were vastly more violent than any modern society.

http://www.troynovant.com/Franson/Keeley/War-Before-Civilization.html

I highly recommend it.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 12:46:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: cuban leaf
Don't forget the Corn Palace.
20 posted on 05/11/2012 3:58:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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