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MILLER: Forced to be fat
The Washington Times ^ | May 10, 2012 | Emily Miller

Posted on 05/11/2012 3:54:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Americans are fatter than ever, but it’s not their fault. That’s according to the latest effort to solve an obesity crisis in the only way liberals know how - with more government.

A study released this week from researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Duke University and RTI International found obesity rates to be on course to rise from 34 to 42 percent of the U.S. population by 2030. The number of severely obese - defined as about 100 pounds overweight - will double to 11 percent.

Today, 68 percent of Americans are overweight and half of those are obese. According to the CDC, the average man is 5‘9” tall and weighs 195 pounds. That’s an inch taller but 30 pounds heavier than the average in 1960. The average woman has also grown an inch in 50 years to 5‘4”, but she spins the scales 25 pounds heavier at 165 pounds.

A new report from the highly influential Institute of Medicine this week blames society and business for this obesity epidemic. The organization, which was created by the National Academy of Sciences, wants the federal government to insert itself in the private market to force food and beverage companies to provide healthy options at “competitive prices everywhere that food is offered.” Fast-food and chain restaurants would have to change the children’s menu to comply with federal dietary guidelines without charging more for these options. Sugary sodas would be taxed.

The basic idea is that people can’t stop themselves from eating hot dogs at a baseball game or ordering a double-cheese pizza from the couch. Government-centric busybodies want to turn fat people into a class of victims so that Big Brother can come and take control of not just their lives, but everyone’s food choices.

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1 posted on 05/11/2012 3:54:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

*burp*


2 posted on 05/11/2012 3:56:34 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...
Hopefully these demons will never get this kind of power over us. Moochelle Obama is bad enough.

In the meantime, here's one way to VOLUNTARILY end the battle of the bulge:

Wheat Belly

I've lost 18 pounds so far.

Nanny State PING!

3 posted on 05/11/2012 3:58:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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"Even if we give parents all the information they need and we improve school meals and build brand new supermarkets on every corner, none of that matters if when families step into a restaurant, they can't make a healthy choice. "

~Michelle Obama




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4 posted on 05/11/2012 4:01:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Eliminating Wheat is a good idea. But also, anything with sugar or high fructose corn syrup.


5 posted on 05/11/2012 4:02:11 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is personal responsibility now obsolete?

Are the overweight people tied down and force-fed?


6 posted on 05/11/2012 4:03:17 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Signalman

Those fad diets are based on junk science.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 4:06:54 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The government forced the food pyramid onto the US and look what it got us. Low-fat diets were the nail in the coffin. Look into the shopping cart of obese people... lots of “low-fat” crackers, cookies, etc.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 4:09:08 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No one needs 6 to 11 servings of grains per day in addition to 7 servings of vegetables and fruits. That is far too many carbs; the American lifestyle does not allow our bodies to metabolize that much carbohydrate in a day.
In Feb.of 2011 I started eating a diet that contained half as many recommended carbs per day and increased my protein intake by about 2 oz. I have lost 60 pounds, and I am still eating a balanced diet that includes wheat.


9 posted on 05/11/2012 4:10:13 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People have a natural tendency to want to feel good. Eating is a feel good thing.

It’s Un-American to have constant pressure, anxiety, upon us every waking moment of ones life by government fiat.

People eat to excess to feel good, feel better about themselves, feel good to combat the pressure, the anxiety they feel constantly either physically, or mentally that is caused subtly, or not by government.

American citizens don’t even realize they are gaining weight as time goes by, and don’t realize they are doing so as they are under pressures NOT of their own making, but pressures they don’t want put upon them by government nanny staters.

Home, on the job, commuting, every activity is governed, and overgoverned, and folks are anxious. When folks are under pressure, anxious they look for release. They eat. They get fat.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 4:10:49 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Obesity Rate = f(EBT recipients)


11 posted on 05/11/2012 4:13:57 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Kids were never fat until the schools started over-feeding them. Ummmmm...pink slime!!


12 posted on 05/11/2012 4:20:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oddly enough, there are some interesting scientific discoveries out there. Several possible “fat reductions in a pill” chemicals, along with “cleansers” of a sort to eliminate much of the toxic chemicals stored in fat, and perhaps oddest of all, a chemical that improves muscle tone.

While these are all “on the drawing board”, it presents a big opportunity to have some fun at the expense of the gullible nanny-types.

I call it “The Republican Pill”.

You can eat and drink as much as you want of *any* kind of food you want, while remaining slender and improving your muscle tone. With NO side effects.

The idea is to annoy the heck out of these annoying people.

People will no longer need to diet, eat insufficient amounts of bad tasting health food, or exercise, and yet they will be fit and trim and strong.

So go ahead, have that thick beef steak, slathered in butter, mushrooms and onions, with a big pile of salty french fries on the side, and top it off with a triple fudge sundae, with ice cream made from real cream.

And then take a pill. Just one, “Republican Pill”, and feel and look great.

Even the hypothetical existence of such a pill would drive them nuts. Nothing quite like pleasure without pain to make such people seethe.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 4:28:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: death2tyrants

So low-carbohydrate eating is junk science? What has caused the explosion of diabetes and obesity in this country?

Answer: Excessive consumption of sugar, bread, and high fructose corn syrup containing products. Along with lack of exercise.


14 posted on 05/11/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Signalman
” But also, anything with sugar or high fructose corn syrup.”

There's lots of evidence that HFCS is worse than sugar. Americans use a lot more HFCS than other nations, including Canada. The reason: corn production is subsidized, and there are trade barriers on sugar. Sugar is a lot cheaper here in Canada, because we don't have special trade barriers to protect the sugar industry (yes, we have a sugar industry). Therefore, food processors use more of it here, than they do in the U.S. For instance, soft drinks in the U.S. are sweetened with HFCS, while the same brands use sugar in Canada.

IOW, government interference in the market has created conditions leading to more obesity. The liberal answer? More government interference. Irony? (No, just more wrinkles.)

15 posted on 05/11/2012 4:40:19 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Simple solution: Charge people by the pound. Insurance rates based upon body mass index. Same for airlines, buses and taxis. No food stamps for those 10% over. etc.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 4:45:42 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Signalman
So low-carbohydrate eating is junk science?

Low-carb is different than 'eliminating', which is the word you used.

What has caused the explosion of diabetes and obesity in this country?

Answer: Excessive consumption of sugar, bread, and high fructose corn syrup containing products.

Excessive calorie consuption leads to obesity, which is linked to type II diabetes. The body converts excessive calorie intake, whether they be from carbohydrate, lipids, or protein, into fat. But you're right that excessive carbohydrate consumption combined with a sedentary lifestyle is a main contributer to obesity for most people. I thought you meant people need to eliminate simple carbohydrate, which is what some of those fad diets recommend.

17 posted on 05/11/2012 4:48:37 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why would people be fatter now, than in 1960? Hmmmm.

How about jobs and free time spent on computers, games and in front of the TV, the effect of an aging population (Baby Boomers)on the data, and the easy access to prepared food.

I don’t think it’s a mystery. Nor, a terrible thing either.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 4:51:00 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Signalman
"What has caused the explosion of diabetes and obesity in this country?"

Lack of frequent and adequate physical activity.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 4:56:02 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Wiser now
No one needs 6 to 11 servings of grains per day in addition to 7 servings of vegetables and fruits.

I wish those who just quote the number of servings would also post what the serving size is. I find for many foods the official serving size is much smaller than most people actually consume. I believe that many of these official charts use a serving size that causes a PB+J sandwich to have two servings of bread.

20 posted on 05/11/2012 4:57:09 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: death2tyrants; Signalman

Then why have I lost 18 pounds since I cut wheat and some other carbs out of my diet?


21 posted on 05/11/2012 4:58:16 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m 5‘9” and 160/165 lbs.

That’s 30 lbs heavier than I was at 18 but I don’t think I’m fat.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 5:01:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: death2tyrants
"Those fad diets are based on junk science."

Actually, the government recommended diet is based on junk science.

23 posted on 05/11/2012 5:03:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: familyop
Lack of frequent and adequate physical activity.

More than anything.
24 posted on 05/11/2012 5:03:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: death2tyrants; Signalman

I don’t cut out all carbs. However, cutting out wheat has had a couple of ancillary benefits as well: my usual spring allergies are quite subdued this year (hardly any sneezing), and my hips don’t usually ache anymore when I jog on the treadmill at the gym.

The reason wheat is so obnoxious is because of it’s high glycemic index, meaning that consuming it causes your blood sugar to skyrocket. That promotes secretion of insulin to get rid of that extra sugar by storing it as fat. I suspect my allergy improvement and better jogging performance is due to the removal of the wheat gluten from my diet.

Believe me, I’m not simply promoting this stuff. I’m actually carrying it out on myself, and it seems to be working.


25 posted on 05/11/2012 5:08:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m 5’8” and 170. Apparently, I’m stuck in 1960...

;>)


26 posted on 05/11/2012 5:27:44 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: Sacajaweau
Kids were never fat until the schools started over-feeding them

I went to grade school in the early 60s and definitely remember fat kids. Not as many percentage wise as today.

27 posted on 05/11/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My guess is that you were consuming more carbohydrate than your body needed. What it doesn’t need is stored as fat.


28 posted on 05/11/2012 6:28:26 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The biggest, fattest slobs I’ve seen recently are SEIU union pigs, ATF oinkers and welfare mommas.

What do they all have in common? The federal fascist pig government!


29 posted on 05/11/2012 6:53:52 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
There's lots of evidence that HFCS is worse than sugar. Americans use a lot more HFCS than other nations, including Canada. The reason: corn production is subsidized, and there are trade barriers on sugar. Sugar is a lot cheaper here in Canada, because we don't have special trade barriers to protect the sugar industry (yes, we have a sugar industry). Therefore, food processors use more of it here, than they do in the U.S. For instance, soft drinks in the U.S. are sweetened with HFCS, while the same brands use sugar in Canada.

Also, soft drinks made with cane sugar taste noticeably better than soft drinks made with corn syrup. I was a skeptic but I've tried blind taste testing Mexican Coke vs. the local stuff. I could tell the difference. The Mexican Coke tastes lighter, crisper and doesn't leave a residue on my tongue. Now I buy bottles of Mexican coke at Costco. Added bonus - they come in real glass bottles with the classic Coke curves.
30 posted on 05/11/2012 7:00:56 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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31 posted on 05/11/2012 7:08:32 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
However, cutting out wheat has had a couple of ancillary benefits as well

That's good that your diet is working for you. Whole wheat is a good source for fiber, but there are plenty of other sources if whole wheat doesn't work out for you.

The reason wheat is so obnoxious is because of it’s high glycemic index, meaning that consuming it causes your blood sugar to skyrocket. That promotes secretion of insulin to get rid of that extra sugar by storing it as fat.

Labeling foods "good" or "bad" based on the glycemic index tends to be an oversimplification since the actual glycemic response from one individual to another varies widely for any given food. Insulin will regulate the blood glucose based on what the body needs. The release of insulin doesn't necessarily equate to the storage of fat. Insulin allows the cells to use glucose for fuel and also allows glucose to be stored as glycogen.

32 posted on 05/11/2012 7:46:13 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping and link!


33 posted on 05/11/2012 8:15:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

The free American citizens are NOT guinea pigs for elitist central planners to control. They are free people.

Coercing citizens to eat right, exercise and quit smoking is NOT a legitimate GUBMINT function. Unless your fellow taxpayers through gubmint are paying for your healthcare. Than it’s their/our business.


34 posted on 05/11/2012 8:37:49 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

So very true, dear Eric Blair 2084!


35 posted on 05/11/2012 8:49:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Check out the hidden reason that so many are too fat:

MSG, it’s in almost everything, and OBESITY:

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Obesity.html

http://truthinlabeling.org/Obesity_Data.html


36 posted on 05/12/2012 12:30:58 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I dunno, I stopped eating bread because it is so full of crap. I don’t eat much wheat, mostly rice and corn, except for some wheat tortillas... anyway, I didn’t notice any difference in my weight. Nothing changes my weight.


37 posted on 05/15/2012 1:21:48 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve lost 35 since January, just eliminating carbs as advised in Wheat Belly.


38 posted on 05/15/2012 1:51:57 PM PDT by lawdave
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To: ichabod1

Try eliminating the rice, tortillas, and processed corn products from your regular diet and see what happens. You also need to carefully check canned soups and other foods to make sure they don’t have wheat flour or wheat gluten in them. They put that sh*t into a lot of things.


39 posted on 05/15/2012 7:27:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: rockinqsranch

Never forget the millions who traded tobacco for a fat body.


40 posted on 05/16/2012 9:07:27 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Interestingly, the special trade barriers set up to “protect” US sugar producers has pretty much led to the death of the industry in this country. It props the price up far higher than the cane can be grown here for, as price controls always do. Thus, Imperial and the other sugar companies have had to go overseas.


41 posted on 05/16/2012 9:12:05 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

I just read, was it in the article(?), that 5’9” and 160 was the average for a man in 1980 (I think), but now it’s 195.


42 posted on 05/16/2012 9:15:34 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t know about that. People weren’t even aware of the need for exercise in advancing years. In the 60s, my neighbor’s dad started “jogging”, and everyone thought he was a nut, a flake, eccentric.


43 posted on 05/16/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: nascarnation

Yes, there were always fat people. I’m not at all sure that I believe the problem is as bad as the statistics portray - they have played fast and loose with the criteria they go by, just like everything else in this turd world government.


44 posted on 05/16/2012 9:19:20 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: ichabod1

Its not about an awareness of the need to exercise. People just used to be a lot more active.


45 posted on 05/16/2012 9:32:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bellflower

MSG makes me feel sick as a dog. I had a bad experience with beans and rice last night. Woke up this morning feeling like HELL. Yes, I ate too much of it, but I shouldn’t have felt so terrible waking up. It was beans and rice for God’s sake, not ice cream and hot fudge sauce. Researching a little more, I think it must have been the ranch style beans I used. I don’t usually use them, and I’ve always vaguely disliked them, without knowing why.


46 posted on 05/16/2012 9:47:30 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks - but it’s getting so hard to find things that are healthy to eat - I don’t know what to switch to. I’ll try though. I’ve sensed for some time that grains and starch are making me sick.


47 posted on 05/16/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Funny, when I go to the gym, karate practice, or take a bike ride, one of which I do every day, and when I cart my kids to baseball, lacrosse, scouts, karate, etc, etc - I don’t notice very many obese people.

It’s almost like there is some kind of linkage between regular physical activity and fitness.


48 posted on 05/16/2012 9:55:35 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Signalman
So low-carbohydrate eating is junk science? What has caused the explosion of diabetes and obesity in this country?
Answer: Excessive consumption of sugar, bread, and high fructose corn syrup containing products. Along with lack of exercise.

Ever read the "Little House on the Prairie" books? They ate a very high carb diet. Sometimes all they ate was bread and potatoes with a little salt pork. They were slim, and at times very thin, because food was usually in short supply.

And of course every thing you did back then worked off calories. Want a glass of water? You don't just turn on the tap. You go to the well, lower the bucket down, pull the bucket back up, carry it to the house and then you can have a glass of water.

You want a piece of toast? First you have to chop the wood for the fire and carry it into the house.

A high carb diet is fine as long as you are doing a lot physical work.

Even a few years ago office workers still got a fair amount of exercise just doing your job.

About the only thing of which you can eat all you want and not gain weight is if you eat only very lean meat. Of course you will also starve to death because it does not have all you need to keep going. If you are always moving eat what you like, it will not put weight on you. If you are not then you need to watch your intake.

49 posted on 05/16/2012 10:07:25 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Migrating elephant herds react badly to flaming motor homes and dry ice doesn't repel killer bees)
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To: ichabod1

“Never forget the millions who traded tobacco for a fat body.”

I never expected that response when I wrote my theory, but I hope you realize how true your statement is.

The Left assaulted the Tobacco Industry from the sixties forward, and now we have obesity, and the Left is assaulting the fast food/restaurant/snack food industry. SHEESH!!! The appropriate target to assault is the Left Wing Industry.

I smoked for fifty years, quit in 2009, and promptly found myself 70lbs. overweight. Still working to unload the fat.

I quit smoking only because of the costs directly responsible to the Leftist’s assault on my smoking, and where those taxes were going.

I actually enjoyed smoking around the ranch as I worked on the many, many projects. One of the pleasures being isolated, and able to not offend anybody with my smoke, but they had to keep messing with it until it was too expensive, and the taxes were going to Leftist programs I of course disagree I want my money to go to, so I quit.


50 posted on 05/16/2012 10:08:13 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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