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Evangelicals: Mitt Romney hit right note
Politico ^ | 5/12/2012 | Ginger Gibson

Posted on 05/12/2012 3:38:57 PM PDT by svxdave

LYNCHBURG, Va. — Evangelical leaders praised Mitt Romney’s speech today at Liberty University, saying that the Mormon candidate was right to acknowledge his religious differences with other Christian voters.

“It was an acknowledgment that the issues that social conservatives and evangelicals care about are important issues to Gov. Romney and as he sees them [as] part of a successful economic platform for the country,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins.

Perkins added that there wasn’t anything the presumptive GOP presidential nominee — who many evangelical voters regarded with skepticism during the primary while backing Rick Santorum — should have done differently. And he pointed to the huge opportunity created for Romney by President Barack Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage this week (Romney opposes gay marriage).

“I think he touched on the key issues that are important to social conservatives. He mentioned Rick Santorum and Rick’s emphasis and the need to have the family and the ties to economic success.” (See also: 10 essential facts about Liberty U.)

Regarding Romney’s acknowledgement that Mormonism differs from other Christian faiths in certain ways, Perkins said the candidate was correct to tackle the issue.

“That was what he needed to do, was to acknowledge that there are theological differences between him and evangelicals,” Perkins said.

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This is a sure sign that Romney is on his way to victory this November.
1 posted on 05/12/2012 3:39:10 PM PDT by svxdave
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To: svxdave
Regarding Romney’s acknowledgment that Mormonism differs from other Christian faiths in certain ways

Mormons ARE NOT Christians. They do not believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ. They do not believe He is the Son of God. They believe He was the brother of Satan. Thus, don't call them Christians.

2 posted on 05/12/2012 3:43:37 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: svxdave

No morman vote here....


3 posted on 05/12/2012 3:44:03 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: svxdave

Oy.

A political marriage. What could go wrong?


4 posted on 05/12/2012 3:45:34 PM PDT by lurk
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To: svxdave

So is gay adoption a Christian or a Mormon thing?


5 posted on 05/12/2012 3:48:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RetiredArmy
THIS IS WHAT MORMONS BELIEVE

Question: "What is Mormonism? What do Mormons believe?"

Answer: The Mormon religion (Mormonism), whose followers are known as Mormons and Latter Day Saints (LDS), was founded less than two hundred years ago by a man named Joseph Smith. He claimed to have received a personal visit from God the Father and Jesus Christ who told him that all churches and their creeds were an abomination. Joseph Smith then set out to begin a brand-new religion that claims to be the “only true church on earth.” The problem with Mormonism is that it contradicts, modifies, and expands on the Bible. Christians have no reason to believe that the Bible is not true and adequate. To truly believe in and trust God means to believe in His Word, and all Scripture is inspired by God, which means it comes from Him (2 Timothy 3:16).

Mormons believe that there are in fact four sources of divinely inspired words, not just one: 1) The Bible “as far as it is translated correctly.” Which verses are considered incorrectly translated is not always made clear. 2) The Book of Mormon, which was “translated” by Smith and published in 1830. Smith claimed it is the “most correct book” on earth and that a person can get closer to God by following its precepts “than by any other book.” 3) The Doctrine and Covenants, containing a collection of modern revelations regarding the “Church of Jesus Christ as it has been restored.” 4) The Pearl of the Great Price, which is considered by Mormons to “clarify” doctrines and teachings that were lost from the Bible and adds its own information about the earth's creation.

Mormons believe the following about God: He has not always been the Supreme Being of the universe, but attained that status through righteous living and persistent effort. They believe God the Father has a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s.” Though abandoned by modern Mormon leaders, Brigham Young taught that Adam actually was God and the father of Jesus Christ. In contrast, Christians know this about God: there is only one true God (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8), He always has existed and always will exist (Deuteronomy 33:27; Psalm 90:2; 1 Timothy 1:17), and He was not created but is the Creator (Genesis 1, Psalm 24:1; Isaiah 37:16). He is perfect, and no one else is equal to Him (Psalm 86:8; Isaiah 40:25). God the Father is not a man, nor was He ever (Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Hosea 11:9). He is Spirit (John 4:24), and Spirit is not made of flesh and bone (Luke 24:39).

Mormons believe that there are different levels or kingdoms in the afterlife: the celestial kingdom, the terrestrial kingdom, the telestial kingdom, and outer darkness. Where mankind will end up depends on what they believe and do in this life. In contrast, the Bible tells us that after death, we go to heaven or hell based on whether or not we had faith in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. To be absent from our bodies means, as believers, we are with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8). Unbelievers are sent to hell or the place of the dead (Luke 16:22-23). When Jesus comes the second time, we will receive new bodies (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). There will be a new heaven and new earth for believers (Revelation 21:1), and unbelievers will be thrown into an everlasting lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). There is no second chance for redemption after death (Hebrews 9:27).

Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus’ incarnation was the result of a physical relationship between God the Father and Mary. Mormons believe Jesus is a god, but that any human can also become a god. Mormonism teaches that salvation can be earned by a combination of faith and good works. Contrary to this, Christians historically have taught that no one can achieve the status of God—only He is holy (1 Samuel 2:2). We can only be made holy in God's sight through faith in Him (1 Corinthians 1:2). Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16), is the only one ever to have lived a sinless, blameless life, and now has the highest place of honor in heaven (Hebrews 7:26). Jesus and God are one in essence, Jesus being the only One existing before physical birth (John 1:1-8; 8:56). Jesus gave Himself to us as a sacrifice, God raised Him from the dead, and one day everyone will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Philippians 2:6-11). Jesus tells us it is impossible to get to heaven by our own works and that only by faith in Him is it possible (Matthew 19:26). We all deserve eternal punishment for our sins, but God's infinite love and grace have allowed us a way out. “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23).

Clearly, there is only one way to receive salvation and that is to know God and His Son, Jesus (John 17:3). It is not done by works, but by faith (Romans 1:17; 3:28). We can receive this gift no matter who we are or what we have done (Romans 3:22). “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

Although Mormons are usually friendly, loving, and kind people, they are deceived by a false religion that distorts the nature of God, the Person of Jesus Christ, and the means of salvation.

from Bible questions answered.com

6 posted on 05/12/2012 3:50:22 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Help me understand. Romney is not a Christian and Obama is? I heard Obama say he supported gay marriage BECAUSE he was a Christian.


7 posted on 05/12/2012 3:50:48 PM PDT by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: RetiredArmy; svxdave

Romney did a great job today.

He praised God and Christianity and never explicitly claimed that the LDSers are Christian.

The text was masterfully crafted.


8 posted on 05/12/2012 3:51:29 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: svxdave
>"Evangelical leaders praised Mitt Romney"

Apparently no one informed them this is not 1st commandment compliant! Probably because they've never read Exodus either.

9 posted on 05/12/2012 3:52:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: svxdave
I cannot judge whether Obama is a Christian or not. Only God can do that. BUT, what he support IS NOT Christian. The Bible says homosexuality is an abomination to God! Period. He says, thy shall not murder. Abortion is murder pure and simple. God loves little children. He did not give us permission to slaughter them in the womb. Thus, what Obama believes is not what ANY Christian I know believes. I certainly do not believe in those things. Thus, I think, personally, that he is on thin ice with the Lord for this. IF he is saved, he is still in terrible trouble when it comes to his rewards at the Bema Seat of Christ. He will be held accountable for these actions!
10 posted on 05/12/2012 3:53:58 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (He has Risen!!! If you do not know Him, this is the perfect week to seek Him out!!!)
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To: rogue yam

Whatever one’s complaints are about Mormonism, the two facts that are immutable here are that 1) the next President will be either Obama or Romney, and 2) Romney is a Mormon.

If one truly wants Obama to win then there you go.

If one wants Romney to beat Obama then it was a good speech.


11 posted on 05/12/2012 3:55:08 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

I’ve agreed with you a lot lately, rogue yam.

I like your name. Does it have any specific meaning? Who couldn’t like a rogue yam?!


12 posted on 05/12/2012 3:57:40 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: svxdave

As long as you can forget everything he has actually done in office and his stands last year and the year before that and...

One speech sure makes a huge difference. lol.


13 posted on 05/12/2012 3:59:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: pointsal

“No morman vote here....”

I’d vote for a conservative, pro-life, pro-freedom one.

Willard Mitt Romney ain’t it though. Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter were more conservative as governors.


14 posted on 05/12/2012 3:59:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: rogue yam
The text was masterfully crafted.

So he's a socialist that can write.

There is a lot of campaigning and a lot of speeches between now and November.

15 posted on 05/12/2012 4:01:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: svxdave

Sure does SAY the right things now that he’s a reborn again hard as nails Reagan conservative running for president. ROFLOL!!


16 posted on 05/12/2012 4:01:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: rogue yam

Yup. Masterfully crafted.


17 posted on 05/12/2012 4:02:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GeronL

It sad to see how many have chosen to do the democrat thing and simply ignore reality. Apparently if we don’t talk about them, the Mitt problems don’t exist.

Its like trying to talk with the OWS crowd.


18 posted on 05/12/2012 4:03:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RetiredArmy
I guess God must have deputized you to go around telling people-- who is and who is not a Christian. It leaves a big question unanswered: What makes you think YOU are such a great Christian?
19 posted on 05/12/2012 4:03:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: cripplecreek; Morgana; null and void

Romney’s “Don’t Check the Record Tour 1012” continues.

He was one of the most pro-gay (including pushing homosexual youth issues), pro-abortion and everything else Governors in history.

How can we ever take the Family Research Council seriously ever again?


20 posted on 05/12/2012 4:05:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sure does SAY the right things now that he’s a reborn again hard as nails Reagan conservative running for president. ROFLOL!!

Sure does say the right things to win governorship in one of the most liberal (gay friendly) states in the union when he is a newborn socialist liberal.

21 posted on 05/12/2012 4:06:09 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: svxdave

“many evangelical voters regarded with skepticism” I have a feeling Obama’s “coming out party” this week changed that situation.


22 posted on 05/12/2012 4:06:55 PM PDT by radioone (No dogs were harmed in the writing of this response.)
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To: GeronL

2012. lol


23 posted on 05/12/2012 4:06:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RetiredArmy
So they believe he was the brother of Obama? Brothers can sometimes be very different!
24 posted on 05/12/2012 4:07:23 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: cripplecreek
Its like trying to talk with the OWS crowd.

Scary thought.

25 posted on 05/12/2012 4:07:50 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GeronL

The man is to the left of Bill Clinton.


26 posted on 05/12/2012 4:07:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Oversimplification, but most “evangelicals” are simply the GOP at prayer while most liberal churches are the DemocRATS at navel-gazing.


27 posted on 05/12/2012 4:09:10 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: pointsal
No morman vote here....

You say you'd rather have a commie muslim in the whitehouse? Mind telling us why??

28 posted on 05/12/2012 4:13:13 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, you know JimRob, I have never said and would never say that Romney is anything other than a cynical shape-shifter whose true agenda is known only to his innermost circle of co-religionists.

I’m just opining that he’s getting good at it.


29 posted on 05/12/2012 4:14:58 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: svxdave

Man oh man. Religious bigotry on full display in this thread.


30 posted on 05/12/2012 4:18:24 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: cripplecreek
The man is to the left of Bill Clinton.

And he cannot defeat an incumbent who is left of Bill Clinton.

31 posted on 05/12/2012 4:21:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: svxdave

I agree with you. Obama is working to destroy the country by destroying the family unit. America must return to the “culture” of the family headed by a mother and a father. The destruction of the American family by secular, liberal Democrats cannot be allowed to accomplish its evil task. These “dirt bag” politicians, Obama included, have destoyed the American Black family unit, have embraced the Gay Community life style, and have made millions dependent on government handouts to survive. No nation can endure for long with these conditions. Romney is right on!!! ABO = Anybody but Obama!!!


32 posted on 05/12/2012 4:22:11 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: pointsal
No morman vote here....

And to think I never have given his religion an effort of concern.

I couldn't care less.

I still won't vote for him because he is a lying socialist liberal snake!

33 posted on 05/12/2012 4:25:41 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cripplecreek

yep

its sad to see the GOP move so far away from its base


34 posted on 05/12/2012 4:27:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RetiredArmy

I have never seen a prophet post before. So, you can tell who is and who is not a Christian? Wow.


35 posted on 05/12/2012 4:28:50 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: GeronL
its sad to see the GOP move so far away from its base

The beginning of the end of the GOP.

Without principle of conviction no political entity can maintain power in a free nation.

36 posted on 05/12/2012 4:32:23 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS
And he cannot defeat an incumbent who is left of Bill Clinton.

Agreed. I think republicans are being set up to be demoralized as the election nears. All of a sudden the polls tell them what they want to hear and they're treated as accurate. In 04, I and others were bumping all the polls for John Kerry just because it allowed the democrats to become overconfident.
37 posted on 05/12/2012 4:35:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rogue yam

Yes, Romney always does a great job telling people what they want to hear.....then he will speak to a different audience the next day, and do a 180. It’s his thing. And people fall for it. Over....and over....and over.....


38 posted on 05/12/2012 4:35:38 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: svxdave

I am an evangelical, I am an ordained pastor, retired. And I am not voting for him.
Voting for Virgil Goode and the Constitution party.
No more holding my nose and voting for the establishment RINO
Freegards
LEX


39 posted on 05/12/2012 4:36:39 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; RetiredArmy
I have never seen a prophet post before. So, you can tell who is and who is not a Christian? Wow.

Pope John II believed that he knew (not "who" was christian) but that Mormonism is not a Christian religion.

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40 posted on 05/12/2012 4:37:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: EGPWS

When the GOP candidates are almost as leftist as the Dems, elections lose any meaning. Really, what exactly would be the point of having an opposition party that agrees with the other party 90% of the time?


41 posted on 05/12/2012 4:37:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RetiredArmy

Obama said Jesus Christ influenced him to support gay marriage. No Christian would say such a thing.


42 posted on 05/12/2012 4:38:11 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: GeronL
Really, what exactly would be the point of having an opposition party that agrees with the other party 90% of the time?

And we are there already with the POTUS elections this year.

43 posted on 05/12/2012 4:42:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Parley Baer
"Man oh man. Religious bigotry on full display in this thread."

So, calling a non-Christian religion what it is, is bigotry? Does that mean we have to start saying Wiccans are Christians now?

44 posted on 05/12/2012 4:42:17 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: EGPWS
And to think I never have given his religion an effort of concern.

As a Bishop, he is the highest ranking church official to ever be in this position, it is believed that he will continue to rise within the religion, and could some day be it's Pope, it's Prophet, he will become God at some point, as his religion and it's leaders inform him.

Romney first sought a meeting to request permission from his Prophet, before initiating his Presidential run in 2005.

45 posted on 05/12/2012 4:43:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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To: svxdave
I watched the speech live today. Romney was at the top of his game and more passionate than I have ever seen him. In terms of character and moral decency, there is no comparison to the Marxist Obama who spent 20 years in the corrupt church of Rev Wright. Romney struck exactly the right tone.
46 posted on 05/12/2012 4:49:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CatherineofAragon

Obama is no Christian, never has been. Muslim, American hater would be a more apt and accurate description of the son of the Devil himself, Barack Hussein Obama. America, time to wake up and flush this flim/flam, incompetent Obama down the toilet into permanent political obscurity. And....Obama, take your wife Michelle with you.


47 posted on 05/12/2012 4:53:52 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
"Mormons ARE NOT Christians"

I'm surprised that you think you are qualified to judge this. Most of us sinners are not.

48 posted on 05/12/2012 4:57:13 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: RetiredArmy

Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nevada, the majority leader of the U.S. Senate, was elected to his fifth term and has served since 1986.

Now in his sixth term as Utah’s senator, Orrin Hatch was first elected in 1976. He is the former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

LDS members of the U.S. Senate

Other Latter-day Saint senators include:

• Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, elected in 1998.

• Newly elected Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah.

• Sen. Tom Udall, D-New Mexico, elected in 2008.

LDS members of the U.S. House

Latter-day Saints serving in the U.S. House of Representatives include:

• Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, elected in 2002.

• Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, elected in 2008.

• Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., elected in 2000.

• Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nevada, elected in 2006.

• Rep. Wally Herger, R-Calif., elected in 1986.

• Newly elected Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho.

• Rep. Jim Matheson, D-Utah, elected in 2000.

• Rep. Buck McKeon, R-Calif., elected in 1992.

• Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, elected in 1998.

Rep. Eni Faleomavaega, D-American Samoa, is one of five territorial representatives in the House. He is in his 13th term as American Samoa’s nonvoting delegate.


49 posted on 05/12/2012 4:58:04 PM PDT by kabar
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To: norwaypinesavage

See post 40.


50 posted on 05/12/2012 5:00:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Not voting Romney?? Then double up on down ticket races and your participation this election.)
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