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Aereo (streaming online) could kill TV business model, broadcasters say
The Hill ^ | 5/11/12 | Andrew Feinberg

Posted on 05/13/2012 3:18:44 AM PDT by Libloather

Aereo could kill TV business model, broadcasters say
By Andrew Feinberg - 05/11/12 01:22 PM ET

Barry Diller's upstart Aereo service, which lets paying customers record and watch over-the-air television stations online, could destroy the economic model behind television, an NBC-Universal exec said in a court filing.

Aereo is being sued by all of the major television broadcasters in federal court in New York, where the service was launched. In a sworn declaration, NBC-Universal executive vice president for content distribution Matt Bond said Aereo could alter how cable and satellite companies handle traditional TV stations. He said Aereo could let the companies pull TV stations off antennae and no longer need to retransmit them from a central location — the practice that allows TV stations to charge retransmission consent fees.

"It makes little economic sense for cable systems and satellite broadcasters to continue to pay for NBCU content on a per-subscriber basis when, with a relatively modest investment, they can simply modify their operations to mirror Aereo's 'individual antenna' scheme and retransmit, for free, over-the-air local broadcast programming," Bond said. "I know for a fact that cable companies have already considered such a model."

Broadcasters filed a number of similar declarations Wednesday in a bid for a preliminary injunction to shut down Aereo during the course of the lawsuit. If they don't get it, broadcasters are afraid cable and satellite providers will implement their own "individual antenna" systems and stop paying broadcasters, which would make broadcasters less likely to pay for programming like NFL games.

Aereo has some support in a 2008 ruling that said Cablevision's Internet DVR service didn't infringe on copyrights. But in a separate filing, broadcasters say the Cablevision case only addresses "time-shifting," as defined in the landmark Betamax case — not retransmission of over-the-air broadcasts by Aereo, which they call a "free-rider."

In their filing, the broadcasters said "there is no basis for reading Cablevision as applicable to real-time retransmissions simply because Aereo's 'device or process' employs a buffer copy and a streaming server."

If the court were to rule in Aereo's favor, they say it would allow Aereo to assert that retransmissions are private performances, which could undermine section 101 of the Copyright Act.

Bond suggests that allowing Aereo to exist could lead to widespread "cord-cutting," which could undermine cable television revenues as well as broadcast.

"Once those subscribers migrate from traditional MVPDs [multichannel video programming distributors], there is no guarantee they will come back, even if Aereo's service ultimately is found to be illegal at trial," he said.

The filings were first reported and published by The Hollywood Reporter.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aereo; broadcasttv; copyright; diller; online; otatv; paytv; streaming; tv
Blame Algore.
1 posted on 05/13/2012 3:18:59 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

To hell with the ‘TV business model’ and your way to loud, obnoxious commercials and continuous social propaganda.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 3:23:42 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: exPBRrat

Excuse my confusion.

Why would anyone actually want to watch over-the-air network programming?

Bunch of boring cr@p, riddled with homosexual propaganda, pre-occupied with carefully polishing Obama’s boots 24/7.

Who cares about “over-the-air network programming”?

Haven’t watched any in 2 years. Who needs it?


3 posted on 05/13/2012 3:28:38 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: exPBRrat

Just my humble guess...but by 2025...the vast majority of TV viewing will be done over the internet....NOT cable TV or over-the-air. I’m also betting that foreign TV shows will also find their way onto the streaming business, and we start to discover thirty years of various productions from the Netherlands, Germany, and Italy. As for the local channels? I think their only value left is tornado warnings and local news....that’s it.


4 posted on 05/13/2012 3:33:54 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Libloather

Interesting to see how this works out.


5 posted on 05/13/2012 3:34:47 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Libloather

Cry me a river. Those buggy wip manufacturers “business model” was pretty much destroyed by the model T. That’s life chump. Adapt or die.


6 posted on 05/13/2012 3:36:17 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: pepsionice

Bump.

I’ve even replaced my “boot up channel” which had been Fox, with the Weather Channel.

Even Fox is useless anymore.


7 posted on 05/13/2012 3:37:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: pepsionice
I think their only value left is tornado warnings and local news....that’s it.

Reporters come and go so frequently in our TV market that none have time to learn the local scene. Quite worthless.

8 posted on 05/13/2012 3:37:33 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Libloather

I’ve been telling folks for a long time that the first step to saving the country is to turn off the televisions.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 3:38:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: Libloather

People just want to watch shows not 15 minutes of liberal commercials with their shows.


10 posted on 05/13/2012 4:02:34 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Where I live there are no’over the air’ local stations now that they went to the new digital format.

The stations are too far away, you get bumkis without a satellite dish.

11 posted on 05/13/2012 4:06:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Yeah, I went from 2 channels(and 2 that kinda sorta came in) before the digital switchover, to zero channels after.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 4:08:42 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Libloather

Interesting... Let’s see how the economic model changes once again.

In any case I am sure that the FCC will be in favor of this once someone points out that the radio spectrum being utilized by over the air broadcasting could be used for Broadband wireless. Thereby opening up a new business model.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 4:13:17 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Beagle8U

Well, sort of in the opposite situation here.

Cable and local channels out the ying-yang.

None of which is worth even watching anymore. Bunch of shrill leftist propaganda and cr@p.

Seriously, it’s become a waste of time. Socialist nonsense.

More FR. Less Hollyweird cr@p.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:16 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Correct. Many rushed out to get their free add on box, only to find that a blank blue screen came in clear as a bell.

Other than the...no signal

no signal

no signal

no signal

Jumping across the TV screen. But DAMN, that came in perfect!

16 posted on 05/13/2012 4:16:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: pepsionice
As for the local channels? I think their only value left is tornado warnings and local news....that’s it.

I'm lucky enough to not even need them for that. I live close enough to the tornado siren that I can hear it clearly in the event I need to.

TV? What's that?!

17 posted on 05/13/2012 4:16:46 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Libloather

barry diller “the killer” is bad JuJu... bad medicine... a george soros styled jerk. He alone destroyed the SciFi channel and everything else he touches.

LLS


18 posted on 05/13/2012 4:17:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: pepsionice
As for the local channels? I think their only value left is tornado warnings and local news....

On my TV the only things left are tornado warnings and some NASCAR races.

The local news casts give very little news with lots of fluff to fill the remaining time. The internet is my source of news.

19 posted on 05/13/2012 4:18:27 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: EternalVigilance
I’ve been telling folks for a long time that the first step to saving the country is to turn off the televisions.

Pick the word(s) that apply to you:
- Wise
- Sage
- Prophetic
- Patriot

However long you've been saying it, you're exactly right. We went from having the TV on non-stop here, mostly just for "background noise" not even really paying attention to it, to basically turning it on at 10:10'ish at night and off at 10:20'ish at night just to catch the local weather.

As much as I'd like to eliminate that, the Weather Channel website has to get MUCH better at local forecasts than the local weathercaster first.

By the way, what an improvement in family life and COMMUNICATION with the kids (14 and 16) now that the idiot box (read that: TV) is relegated to such a minor role.

Save the country, save the family unit and turn off the damn' TV!!!

20 posted on 05/13/2012 4:24:46 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: pepsionice

Well put.


21 posted on 05/13/2012 4:42:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Libloather

Cable TV in general is garbage. Got rid of everything but the minimum service last year. And it made sense to keep that because I get Internet through my cable provider and its nearly free. Now basically stream Netflix content through my Roku box. I miss FX and the Comedy Channel a little but they weren’t worth $50/month.


22 posted on 05/13/2012 4:50:52 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: usconservative

However long you’ve been saying it, you’re exactly right. We went from having the TV on non-stop here, mostly just for “background noise” not even really paying attention to it, to basically turning it on at 10:10’ish at night and off at 10:20’ish at night just to catch the local weather.

As much as I’d like to eliminate that, the Weather Channel website has to get MUCH better at local forecasts than the local weathercaster first.

By the way, what an improvement in family life and COMMUNICATION with the kids (14 and 16) now that the idiot box (read that: TV) is relegated to such a minor role.

Save the country, save the family unit and turn off the damn’ TV!!!

Add Jesus Saves to this and you do not even have to go to church today. Thanks for the sermon. You are right on! TV folk are more fake than politicians.


23 posted on 05/13/2012 4:53:53 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Recently PBS has begun to make sense ~ which is very disturbing. What that means is regular old fashioned broadcast model broadcasting where Mr. interlocutor picks what we are going to see and hear just isn't as interesting as 24/7 reruns on 17 different channels (i get that many PBS channels here).

ETWN is one of the better cable only offerings ~ and I'm not even Catholic but where else you gonna' find Catholic Freepers actually interviewed as serious newsmakers.

Even O'Reilly is competing well against everything but SouthPark.

24 posted on 05/13/2012 5:07:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We cut our TV a year or so ago, and now have only cable Internet. Any programming we want to watch we can download. I hooked a pair of rabbit ears to the TV and we receive 29 digital stations over the air, although we’ve only watched them a few times!


25 posted on 05/13/2012 5:08:07 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yes, the Weather Channel is good.
Also I like “Parking Wars” especially the Detroit episodes. It is the ultimate reality show about a city run by Marxists, the only remaining revenue being parking fines. An out-of-town guy driving a rental car parked in front of his hotel to go in to register. When he came out,the car had been towed to the city pound.


26 posted on 05/13/2012 5:11:39 AM PDT by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: mamelukesabre
Our public access channel was rather entertaining for several months. This neo-nazi group managed to slip in ~ they were rather incredible (and I don't mean that in a positive way).

They set a new low standard for how we might talk about others we dislike.

27 posted on 05/13/2012 5:12:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pepsionice

There’s a good 30 years of hard core porn available from French cable ~ where Prostitutes advertise their services.


28 posted on 05/13/2012 5:13:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"I’ve even replaced my “boot up channel” which had been Fox, with the Weather Channel."

When I was still living down in Louisiana, one of the MOST useful cable channels was a continuous feed of the closest national weather radar station, with a voice-over of the local conditions. No idiot broadcasters, empty suits, commentary, "tornado chaser" fill material.....just the radar display. Much to my surprise here in the Puget Sound area (where the weather is just as, if not more, changeable), no comparable channel is available.

29 posted on 05/13/2012 5:23:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: usconservative; Malesherbes
"As much as I'd like to eliminate that, the Weather Channel website has to get MUCH better at local forecasts than the local weathercaster first.

See Post #29

30 posted on 05/13/2012 5:27:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Try this link:

http://www.wunderground.com/ Enter your zip code.

Click on “wundermap” about half way down on the right, then launch the weather radio (lower left) at the same time.

Voila. You’re good to go.

Add the storm tracks feature on the wundermap. It’s darn interesting when weather is rolling in.


31 posted on 05/13/2012 5:39:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Vote for the straight guy.)
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To: Libloather

I hope this company kicks the cable companies assessed. I am so sick and tired of having to pay $80 a month for sports and other events I cut the cord a while ago and now I just rely on the net for my television.


32 posted on 05/13/2012 5:46:00 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Libloather; All

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


33 posted on 05/13/2012 5:48:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: rbg81

Through you’re Romulus box you can still get those shows if you download the amazon cod channel. I still get new Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia episodes. And South Park studios streams their content nonlinear.


34 posted on 05/13/2012 5:51:19 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: erod

Romulous = roku stupid ipad spell check


35 posted on 05/13/2012 5:52:32 AM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Libloather

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rOoQDkyfJc

Video overview

==

It sounds like it is more of an Internet ‘antenna’ system that offers two streams of ‘local’ TV broadcasting, with a fee for the service.

From the description in the video, I don’t see how cable or satellite companies have any room for their gripes. It sounds as if the service is more like an over-the-air antenna booster that would provide access to ‘local’ tv broadcast signals.


36 posted on 05/13/2012 5:57:13 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Libloather

I personally hate the current cable/satelite models. I have to pay for all the anti-American stations like CNN and MSNBC in the basic package and then have to pay extra for the real news on Fox. Too bad Murdoch doesn’t have his own satelite or cable distribution service. Imagine how bad CNN and MSNBC would tank if they didn’t have the revenues from the current system. They get paid even though they have a very small percentage of viewers and yet Fox kicks their butt even though many households don’t even get Fox on their basic package. I have always said I would pay more just to be able to pick 20 stations and not have to support the leftist idiots on CNN and MSNBC. I imagine the future is by internet and that eventually individual networks will become available online by subscription.


37 posted on 05/13/2012 6:14:40 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: mamelukesabre
Yeah, I went from 2 channels(and 2 that kinda sorta came in) before the digital switchover, to zero channels after.

We lost a couple fringe channels due to digital being either all on or all off (can't get fuzzy receptions) but ost are still available via the 28 yuear old analogue antenna that we maintain in case satelite craps out.

38 posted on 05/13/2012 6:19:54 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Who cares about “over-the-air network programming”?

Perhaps the majority of over 55 voters? Especially those who are unable to support themselves without the government dole.

39 posted on 05/13/2012 6:39:28 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 (More voices, more power.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I like the wondermap, but I prefer the storm tracker on the regular radar. It seems to give me a better idea about the nature of the different cells of the approaching storms. Perhaps I’m missing a setting on the wondermap. Last March, when a tornado was approaching Ann Arbor, I had two browsers open, one with the regular radar, and one with the wondermap, so I could advise my daughter what to do as she was hunkered down with her cat in the basement of her apartment building.


40 posted on 05/13/2012 6:56:25 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Been using “Weather Underground” for years. Its usefulness is not even close to what I described (although it is VERY useful in it’s own way..and FAR better than “The Weather Channel”). This may be a case of “you have to see it to understand”, which experience I can’t provide (unfortunately).


41 posted on 05/13/2012 6:57:25 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: EternalVigilance; usconservative; All
I’ve been telling folks for a long time that the first step to saving the country is to turn off the televisions.

I'm with you guys. Chucked the TV awhile ago and do not miss it a bit.

I hear friends talking about the latest refuse on TV and wonder to myself how they can logically stand to waste their time watching that tripe.

42 posted on 05/13/2012 7:14:31 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Libloather

I watch pretty much everything online, streaming - no downloads - for free. Lots of decent programming from the UK plus our junk here - with no commercials :>)


43 posted on 05/13/2012 7:43:31 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Libloather

All the horse drawn carriage makers were suing the auto companies today...


44 posted on 05/13/2012 9:49:13 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: exPBRrat

People record the show and skip the commercials anyway.


45 posted on 05/13/2012 9:49:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: EternalVigilance

John Prine


46 posted on 05/13/2012 11:46:25 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: usconservative
As much as I'd like to eliminate that, the Weather Channel website has to get MUCH better at local forecasts than the local weathercaster first.

Predict you're own weather. See it coming in your direction, in high resolution, here. Hell, you pay for it with your tax dollars, you might as well use it.

47 posted on 05/13/2012 8:57:36 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: EternalVigilance
I’ve been telling folks for a long time that the first step to saving the country is to turn off the televisions.

WowWEE! You've been an insightful genius for a long time haven't you Hoefling?

Why don't you list your vice presidential candidate (LOL) in the same font size as your own name on your home page?

48 posted on 05/13/2012 9:21:34 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Libloather
Fox news and others threaten to go to a pay to view channel.

Ooo...I'm shaking. Hope the door smacks your arrogant, fat a$$ on the way out!

Haven't watched Fox news since the election.

Jackwagons.

49 posted on 04/09/2013 1:35:18 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts help hold the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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