Is Mitt Romney’s love for America a Mormon thing?

You are denying that Abraham was a prophet, and that his taking of plural wives was at the direction of God, but rather that he was a pervert?

Just trying to get a handle on your “Christianity.”

(Let him that is without sin cast the first stone.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

I desist....)

Welcome to freerepublic and signing up today, nothing better than trolls who sign up with a single product to sell which is outside of the forums purpose.

The source for the private meeting in 2005, is Sunstone Magazine. The specifics unknown, but the purpose is.

“Right now, he faces the toughest decision
of his life. It is not one he can put off for long.
As if to underscore his personal angst, as he
has done in the past, he sought advice from
the man he admires most in this world:
Mormon president Gordon Bitner Hinckley.
The conversation eventually turned to
whether a run for the presidency would be
good for him and the Church. The specifics
of the conversation are, of course, known
only to people who were there. However,
Romney left with the clear impression that
the upbeat Mormon prophet was not worried”

You are denying that Abraham was a prophet, and that his taking of plural wives was at the direction of God,
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1; Abraham never took plural wives...he only had 2 wives...after Sarah the 1st wife died he married another wife, Keturah...one at a time...

2. God never told Abram to have sex with his Sarai’s slave...

3. Abram’s taking of his wife Sarai’s slave was at the direction of Sarai...

4. Haggai remained a slave, the property of Sarai, Haggai was never the wife of Abram...

Appreciate the welcome. Been here before but lost contact while deployed. Seems insincere when followed by juvenile name-calling.

The Constitution stipulates that there is no religious credential or requirement for national office candidates. This thread is a response to an article about Gov. Romney’s religious teachings as a foundation for his acceptance of American Exceptionalism. My points were to suggest more accuracy and less bigotry in that discussion.

Brigham Young never sought a crown, nor was “kingdom” ever discussed within Deseret/Utah, except as labeled by antagonists.

Abraham was not a fallen prophet.

Gov. Romney never sought permission from Gordon B. Hinckley. He sought advice or counsel, not a calling or assignment or suggestion. Your snippet recounting his non-public conversation in now way suggests, even from the view of Sunstone editors, that he left with any permission or impied suggestion he was chosen or destined for higher office.

I am no Romney disciple, but as he is the apparent candidate, I am hopeful, as postulated and proposed by Agamemnon, that his Massachusset term led to results that were the best he could manage in holding back liberal tide, and that his potential for more conservative action and promotion will come to the fore with a more Conservative legislative body with which to work.

I grant no implicit trust in his policy aims or personal leanings, but based on his background, I do trust, as stated by others, his support and experience and belief in free markets and defense, and in a form of American Exceptionalism contrary to any, if any, held by Obama.

Yes Romney did seek permission from his Prophet, the meeting was secret, all we know is it’s purpose, Romney’s presidential run.

Romney was the 4th republican governor in a row in Massachusetts, he was a disaster for the state and it’s GOP, he could not run for reelection as he desired, and he left as a failure, with 34% approval.

He comes from an anti-military line, none of his direct line ever served America in uniform, Mitt dodged military service in France while his dad ran as the anti-war candidate for president during war time, just as Mitt’s five sons, all avoided military service as he ran to be commander in chief during war time.

What was your previous freeper name?

I don’t recall reading that his father, George Romney, set any precedent by asking Mormon leaders for permission. Anything to suggest Orrin Hatch, Harry Reid might have done so? Perhaps Jake Garn checked in with SLC before flying off into space? Steve Young before a Super Bowl? Orson Scott Card before embarking on Sci Fic novel publishing? The Osmonds before signing record label contracts? Lay church members and leaders are not required nor accustomed to seeking SLC permission with career goals or aspirations. You have no facts but still wade in your bigotry to impugn that either man involved in the conversation acted as left-out Sunstone editors would conclude. Seeking advice, counsel, or perspective is not seeking permission. Words have meaning, you know.

I would suggest a 34% approval rating in a Kennedy/Frank dominated State is nothing at which to sneeze. What’s your rating, and what credentials or experience buttress your spurious spew? I would suggest you excel in simple bigotry.

While I am amazed, and in great admiration for the level of trust and breadth and weight of responsibility for the young military officers and NCOs I know and have observed, and understand both the pressure and value of their training and experience, it is not the ONLY way to develop leadership skills and appreciation for American heritage, values, and Exceptionalism. Agree, or disagree?

Many people have led satisfying, contributing, forthright freedom-sustaining and service-oriented lives without having been in the military. I would suggest there are 100s of thousands of families, rich or not so much, who have not served in that narrowly-defined position. Businessmen and entrepreneurs who conceptualized, designed, tested and built Higgins boats, P-51 Mustangs, Cray computers, and electro-optical surveillance engineering feats are lesser Americans, with lesser judgment, and lesser leadership qualifictions?

How about your local police, firefighters, paramedics, forest rangers, emergency dispatch, or communications specialists? Is their work profitless, their service and sacrifices unacceptable, and their possible lack of prior military experience disqualifying?

The U.S. Constitution contains neither a religious litmus test, or requirement of service in the military to qualify. How do you feel about law degrees, M.D.s, ME/EE/CE, or Microsoft or Cisco certifications?

While his missionary experience in France was no comparison to platoon leadership in Indochina, neither was it apparently such to be impugned with comparison to “gap year” frolics. A seventy-five hour work week for two years which he paid for the chance to experience? Seems some valuable lessons, observations and experiences about human nature and hard work likely came from that sacrifice.

Yes, we rightly grant preference points in federal hiring for veterans, but again, rarely are there prerequisites. Would you have pressed the same nearly baseless point if the apparent nominee were Pawlenty, Bachman, Santorum, Rubio, or Palin? Does your bigotry regarding his faith also include bigotry against those of accomplishment and birth that was beyond their control? Seems you are scrambling for bases.

If I could recall my former handle on here, I would have saved myself the re-registration effort and just logged on. You can’t be bothered to take time to provide facts from respectable sources for your assertions, and to lend yourself some respect here, but you want to search my posting past to look for kernals to grind up to create some smear paste? Sorry, I am not playing.

Welcome to freerepublic.

That long, long, useless, irrelevant mess of nothingness that you just posted is done in Mormon style, it is a technique they use, are you a member of the Mormon religion?

If you will help us we can probably figure out your previous freeper name, assuming you had one, what time period was it? What time period were you most active?