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Phil Collins: The Alamo and Beyond
Houstonchron.com ^ | 5-10-12 | Maggie Galehouse

Posted on 05/13/2012 12:19:49 PM PDT by Dysart

Phil Collins, the musician, is an avid collector of Alamo memorabilia.

Texas Monthly has written about Collins and his collection. And last week, as I was watching a music documentary on Nelflix about the making of Collins’ classic “Face Value” album (this is what I do at 3:30 a.m. when I can’t sleep), I was struck by how uber-produced the album was, by how painstakingly thorough — even anal — Collins was when creating his first solo project. (I mean, he’s a drummer who uses a drum machine.)

But I imagine he brings the same passion and attention to detail to his collecting. And now readers will get a chance to see his Alamo collection in Collins’ new (and first ) book: “The Alamo and Beyond.”

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: alamohistory; philcollins
He was in Houston last Wed on his Alamo book tour. For those moved by this sort of thing there's a great video of his collection at the link, y'all. Collins is an interesting figure...wrote some great music but- and he admits- just as much claptrap, and not someone you'd have expected to latch onto Texas/Alamo history as a sort of obsession!

I think the lead singer of Iron Maiden, Bruce Dickinson, has also forged a productive life after rock. And also there's a former Doobie Bro member who dabbles in global security analysis. Clapton has done profound things with addiction treatment. There must be others. Happily they don't all die in their bathroom in a pile of their own vomit at 27, fortunately.

1 posted on 05/13/2012 12:19:53 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

That’s a very nice collection.

Thanks, Dysart.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Dysart

Thanks for posting. It’s nice to hear about a celebrity who seems to value real American history, especially one from another country.

It shows the REAL America still speaks to folks, even over the sea.


3 posted on 05/13/2012 12:37:12 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Dysart
I think the lead singer of Iron Maiden, Bruce Dickinson, has also forged a productive life after rock.

Is he the guy who collects tanks? I think I saw him on a Military Channel program.

4 posted on 05/13/2012 12:48:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: unkus; I still care
Oops. Here's the proper link with vid: http://blog.chron.com/bookish/2012/05/phil-collins-the-alamo-and-beyond/

Began post from Startelgram and found a better article at Chron.com/didn't change link before submitting.

5 posted on 05/13/2012 12:49:07 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: MEG33

save


6 posted on 05/13/2012 12:49:22 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Dysart
I saw Genesis a few times back in the late 70s. On videos, I'd never seen him do anything but sing, so I was surprised at what a good drummer/percussionist/entertainer he is on stage. He worked hard for two hours, running between the front of the stage, his percussion setup, and his humongous drum set.

At one point one of the overhead speakers developed a bad ground, so while that was being fixed, he distracted the crowd with his Steve Martin "happy feet" imitation and cracked jokes. He called his drummer a hermaphrodite, and then said "My drummer is going to beat me up after the show." Funny guy.

7 posted on 05/13/2012 12:50:13 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Hugin

I haven’t heard that. He was a commercial pilot (jumbo jet) for some British airway and is currently an Exec.


8 posted on 05/13/2012 12:54:40 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

It might have been a different guy, but I’m pretty sure it was someone from Iron Maiden. An appropriate hobby for a heavy metal guy.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 12:58:07 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Dysart

Nicely done. The video is definately better.

Thanks again.


10 posted on 05/13/2012 1:01:05 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: FlyVet

Phil was fantastic on drums, I’ve got early bootlegs from the ‘Selling England By the Pound’ era, very jazzy drumming for a prog band.

He also was in a band during that time called Brand X, which played more jazz-oriented rock.


11 posted on 05/13/2012 1:03:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: FlyVet

He’s indeed talented. One of my favorite songs is “Paperlate,” and I am not certain of its meaning...where he was really going with it but...it’s got a good beat and you can dance to it. :) Maybe he was drawing a parallel betwixt a late newspaper and an opportunities taken or not taken, and missed. Consequences thereof. Or, rather, “Paperlate” as a metaphor for it. The best I can do.


12 posted on 05/13/2012 1:06:28 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

“Paperlate” was a reference to a line in one Genesis’ early songs “Dancing With the Moonlit Knight”, there was a line that said, “Paperlate! Called a voice in the crowd...”

Phil was singing the word in the original demo for the song, and it just stuck.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 1:09:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: FlyVet

And you know you’re a good drummer when none other than Robert Plant asks you to be the drummer for his first solo tour.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 1:11:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Dysart

Do you remember what you recalled when you forgot to remember what I felt when you remembered? It’s time to forget.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 1:13:49 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: dfwgator
Ah, so it was more Collins' taking a hook and making all else fit around it and the music? There's really no deep meaning? That would be consistent with much of his writing and success.

But I like my interpretation so much better...

16 posted on 05/13/2012 1:15:17 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Collins was more into the rhythm of words as a writer, he always considered himself to be a drummer first. He didn’t even want to be the singer of Genesis, after Gabriel left.

“Face Value” is a pretty amazing album, considering that up to the point, he had written very few songs himself.


17 posted on 05/13/2012 1:18:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I do. But it’s over. Oh, it’s over.


18 posted on 05/13/2012 1:24:57 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: dfwgator

just not a collins fan — Peter Gabriel was too much of the Genesis I dug (and I didn’t dig much). However, Joe Vitale (the drummer) raves about him; even cites him as a hero. I didn’t know he was in Brand X (are you sure?) but really liked their one hit, “The Streets of Soho.” You must be the guy that posted some time ago that they were more popular in the old country.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 1:38:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Dysart

Texas Monthly is published by lefties who hate what Texas is.

They Pretend to portray Texas, but don’t.

The only place you see the Mag is in the Dr. or Dentist office and the Library. The Mag Sucks.


20 posted on 05/13/2012 1:46:34 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Dysart

The beyond portion is important, beginning with The Battle of San Jacinto. The anniversary of that is still observed in TX annually. (April 21, 1836)

One of my ancestors was born in TX during the Republic of Texas. (the Republic existed March 2, 1836, to February 19, 1846)

“Texas is not where you were born but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.” ~Texas Fossil


21 posted on 05/13/2012 1:53:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
yep have to agree...Bred, born & lived in Texas until Vietnam..went to war 3 tours. Making a living took me away from my state. Like you said it's a state of mind.We are here in lousyanna now for 12 years, we sneak across the border about 5 times a year to replenish the heart and mind. Retired now but all our families are still there.Waiting on the wife to retire,maybe then we can come back
22 posted on 05/13/2012 2:53:05 PM PDT by VF-51vnv
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23 posted on 05/13/2012 4:33:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Dysart
Seems like Phil has changed. He was not a fan of Reagan back in the day.
24 posted on 05/13/2012 4:40:00 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Nateman
Yeah, remember that, I'm afraid. Piss-poor song; dumber video. But we do observe sometimes that intrepid, intellectually honest people do evolve. I don't actually know his leanings right now, but in my further reading the piece below it appears his immersion into the Alamo stuff might just be an escape for him. Well, again, it's better than self-destruction, which he's pondered and so far rejected.

Revealing Rolling Stone Article On Collins

And I think people should throttle back on the Collins hate-- he wrote and played some very good music. Yes, it would have been nice to forgo the likes of "Susstupidio," a number that slays me and always has...but I forgive him that transgression. If I can, others can as well.

Let us all be grapefruit for "In The Air Tonight" and "No Reply At All," et al.

25 posted on 05/13/2012 5:25:47 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Nateman

Still a good song and hilarious video though.


26 posted on 05/13/2012 5:26:30 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Dysart

I like Sussudio. Especially the extended jam versions.

Easy Lover is great too, imo.


27 posted on 05/13/2012 5:29:51 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8q8kB87APc


28 posted on 05/13/2012 5:31:40 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Dysart

Does anyone know if he has regained the ability to play?

From Wiki:

In September 2009, it was reported that Collins could no longer play drums, due to a recent operation to repair dislocated vertebrae in his neck.[74] A statement from Collins on the Genesis band website said, “There isn’t any drama regarding my ‘disability’ and playing drums. Somehow during the last Genesis tour I dislocated some vertebrae in my upper neck and that affected my hands. After a successful operation on my neck, my hands still can’t function normally. Maybe in a year or so it will change, but for now it is impossible for me to play drums or piano. I am not in any ‘distressed’ state; stuff happens in life.”[


29 posted on 05/13/2012 5:38:15 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
WOW we are different. You listed my two least favorite PC songs. And that's ok.

I recall in when Sussudio was popular he was axed about on MTV and he declared "it's about nothing," and laughed manically. I thought it was trash musically, and lyrically by his own admission it was pop nonsense.

My point is he was much better than that, jmo and tastes. No doubt, tho, those hits found an audience...

30 posted on 05/13/2012 5:46:32 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Dysart

I think I was into electronic music around that time, and it stuck with me.

The Cadbury ad is funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s


31 posted on 05/13/2012 6:59:59 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

That was smashing!


32 posted on 05/13/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by Dysart
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