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Across country, black pastors weigh in on Obama's same-sex marriage support
cnn ^ | 5/13/2012 | By Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 05/13/2012 3:11:32 PM PDT by tobyhill

Addressing his large, mostly black congregation on Sunday morning, the Rev. Wallace Charles Smith did not mince words about where he stood on President Barack Obama's newly announced support for same-sex marriage: The church is against it, he said, prompting shouts of "Amen!" from the pews.

And yet Smith hardly issued a full condemnation of the president.

"We may disagree with our president on this one issue," Smith said from the pulpit of the Shiloh Baptist Church in Washington. "But we will keep him lifted up in prayer. ... Pray for President Barack Obama."

And Smith said there were much bigger challenges facing the black community - "larger challenges that we have to struggle with" - bringing his full congregation to its feet, with many more amens.

Days after Obama announced his personal support for same-sex marriage, pastors across the country offered their Sunday-morning opinions on the development, with the words of black pastors - a key base of support for Obama in 2008, that is also largely opposed to gay marriage - carrying special weight in a presidential election year.But black pastors were hardly monolithic in addressing Obama's remarks.

In Baltimore, Emmett Burns, a politically well-connected black minister who said he supported Obama in 2008, held an event at Rising Sun Baptist Church to publicly withdraw support from the president over Obama's same-sex marriage support.

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


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Some black pastors stick by their morals and ditch Obama while others have no morals and continue to support the "First Gay President".
1 posted on 05/13/2012 3:11:38 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

If Obama ditched wide load and married Reggie Love they would still vote for him.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 3:13:56 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

These folks are waisting their prayers ...


3 posted on 05/13/2012 3:18:32 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Venturer
At first I thought Obama would survive this with the black community but I have been talking to a lot of black religious people and they are POed.

I think Obama just committed political suicide and the Newsweak Cover is not going to help.

4 posted on 05/13/2012 3:20:47 PM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: Ken522
These folks are waisting their prayers ...

No, I'd say their prayers are spot on, it's just that they're praying to a false god, a false prophet, The Adversary.
They're just to corrupted to know it or care either way.
5 posted on 05/13/2012 3:20:59 PM PDT by brent13a (Glenn Beck is an a$$hat.)
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To: tobyhill

No surprise that he essentially endorsed him from the pulpit regardless.

I thougt it was extraordinarily foolish the way many in the blogosphere predicted an erosion in black support because of his announced support for unnatural unions. There’s nothing he could do to lose that support.

I am grateful to BHO for one thing: providing clarity as to what god many “religious” folk really worship - Many Catholics, Protestants and Jews have all shown that their first obligation is to Caesar.


6 posted on 05/13/2012 3:25:42 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: tobyhill

Good thing they have they have the negro exemption so they don’t lose tax exempt status!


7 posted on 05/13/2012 3:27:02 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: tobyhill

I pray along with them.

Where did the KKK come from? The Democrat party.
Who frequently was lynched in the South with blacks? Republican sympathizers.
Dred Scott? Democrats.
Segregation? Democrats.


8 posted on 05/13/2012 3:27:56 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: tobyhill

It has long been known that Obama supports partial birth abortion and even opposed the born alive infant protection act, something even naral did not object to. He appointed eugenicists and raging commies as czars in his admin. He is a sociopath. I fail to see how the gay thing should suddenly make him unacceptable to Christians who supported him before. These Pastors are not deep thinkers. All of them that supported Obama are simply morons.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 3:31:35 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: tobyhill
Black pastors who preach in favor of same-sex marriage know they may pay a price if they take Obama's position, says Bishop Carlton Pearson.

Yes. They'll face judgement.

The Chicago-based black minister says he lost his church building and about 6,000 members when he began preaching that gays and lesbians were accepted by God.

As well he should have.

Its his job to get gays and lesbians and all of us plain-vanilla sinners saved and filled with the holy spirit. Its not his job to tell them that they can keep going down the same road. If he thinks that then he has seriously lost the plot.

"I take the Bible seriously, just not literally,"

Then he needed to lose his pulpit. He needs to take his place out in the pews until he gets the whole salvation thing.

...it's also the Golden Rule," [Obama] said. "Treat others the way you would want to be treated."

Of course. No kidding. But don't offer them some counterfeit marriage that doesn't exist, has never existed, and will never exist whatever laws they manage to jam through a supine Congress.

10 posted on 05/13/2012 3:41:14 PM PDT by marron
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To: tobyhill

CNN.....?????....unexpectedly......overwhelming support.


11 posted on 05/13/2012 3:44:14 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: struggle
Lincoln? Republicans.
Frederick Douglas? Republicans.
MLK? Republicans.
Here's more.
12 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:13 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

It’s sad the Republicans have so much to work with and yet dont.

Literally, the party of stupid vs. the party of evil.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: tobyhill

It’s really no different than conservatives supporting a pro-abortion, pro-socialized medicine, pro gun control, pro global warming candidate like Romney.

Most here are adamantly opposed to things that Romney has supported based upon his record, yet they still support him.

As far as I’m concerned they are both turds of the highest order.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 4:48:27 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Venturer

I wouldnt be surprised if he did just that... he is about shoving anything repulsive down the throats of americans...


15 posted on 05/13/2012 4:58:41 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: tobyhill

“We may disagree with our president on this one issue,”...But we will keep him lifted up in prayer. ...”
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
“....And still vote for him because he’s Black”


16 posted on 05/13/2012 5:54:44 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: no dems
“....And still vote for him because he’s Black”

As opposed to Romney, a man who was a member of a church that discriminated against blacks until the late 1970s, and who actively supported abortion and gay "rights"?
17 posted on 05/13/2012 6:05:35 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: tobyhill

Black Preachers are not much on same sex marriage.

That is what saved Maryland from passing it last year> When the black preschers in PG County came out against it.

This year in spite of opposition the Bi-sexuals in our Lagislature passed it anyway. Now we are having a petition drive to get the referendum on the ballot.As far as I am concerned those who passed this bill are as bad as the freaks who want it. I hope each District remembers the name and vote their Representative made. I know Mr. Bohannon lost my vote.


18 posted on 05/13/2012 6:12:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

Race is more important to some people than anything else.

The is more true for blacks than any other Americans.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 6:27:35 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: vmivol00
It’s really no different than conservatives supporting a pro-abortion, pro-socialized medicine, pro gun control, pro global warming candidate like Romney.

Romney is not campaigning on these positions and there is no reason to think that this will be his agenda if he is elected.

20 posted on 05/13/2012 6:31:56 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jtal
I thought it was extraordinarily foolish the way many in the blogosphere predicted an erosion in black support because of his announced support for unnatural unions. There’s nothing he could do to lose that support.

I honestly did not see many predicting this. I, and others, think this gay nonsense will cost Obama votes but not from blacks.

21 posted on 05/13/2012 6:35:39 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: struggle
Yup.


22 posted on 05/13/2012 6:45:59 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: HerrBlucher
It has long been known that Obama supports partial birth abortion and even opposed the born alive infant protection act, something even naral did not object to. He appointed eugenicists and raging commies as czars in his admin. He is a sociopath. I fail to see how the gay thing should suddenly make him unacceptable to Christians who supported him before.

Those first abhorrent policy positions and actions of Obama that you mention are not widely known and the leftist media have not been publicizing them. By contrast, Obama's big gay wedding has been shoved into everyone's faces by the arrogant leftists in the media who are just daring Americans to object. When we get into the voting booths in November we will, each of us, have the opportunity to tell the leftists where to get off. I think Americans will vote a resounding "No!" on all of this mandatory gay nonsense.

23 posted on 05/13/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

“Romney is not campaigning on these positions and there is no reason to think that this will be his agenda if he is elected.”

....other than his record.


24 posted on 05/13/2012 7:11:57 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: no dems
And still vote for him because he’s Black

And liberal. Most Blacks won't vote for a Black conservative. Suddenly skin color goes from meaning everything to meaning nothing.

25 posted on 05/13/2012 7:20:10 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: vmivol00

Blacks are committing political suicide by voting for Obama’s re-election. Just imagine if another peanut farmer decided to run. He’d be laughed out of the race. The same will be true of another black candidate after Obama destroys this economy.


26 posted on 05/13/2012 7:21:08 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Venturer

Was it Van Jones who not too long ago said that even if Obama came out as gay, Blacks would vote for him? Some here wondered if that was a signal of what was to come, because it seemed so out of place and sudden.


27 posted on 05/13/2012 7:40:28 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: tobyhill
God tells us to pray for our leaders.
Not only our 'good ' leaders, but our leaders...
So we pray for our President.

Primarily I pray for his repentance and conversion, for eternity is what matters.

I also pray that he loses in November. It would not only be best for the Nation, but it would be best for President Obama. The best thing for a narcissist is to get knocked down a few pegs. Getting knocked down to rock bottom is often needed, but we can start with knocking him off his pedestal and relieving him of his delusions of grandeur.

28 posted on 05/13/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: vmivol00
....other than his record.

I think you are being dishonest.

Romney's record is not that of an ideological leftist.

Romney is a guy who, in large measure, has gone along to get along.

There is nothing about Romney's past that suggests that he would promote leftist policies as a Republican President with a Republican Congress and a robust conservative tea party movement promoting conservatism.

I think that you are being irrational and/or dishonest about your opposition to Romney.

Lying about Romney will not help preserve our liberty, and it will not further God's mission on earth.

29 posted on 05/13/2012 8:46:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: struggle
Where did the KKK come from? The Democrat party.

Who frequently was lynched in the South with blacks? Republican sympathizers.

Dred Scott? Democrats.

Segregation? Democrats.

Welfare checks? Democrats.

30 posted on 05/13/2012 9:10:30 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: tobyhill

OK, if Rev Smith is willing to give him a pass on the homosexual marriage position, what exactly has he done for the “larger issues” the black community has to struggle with. Obama has been all window dressing for blacks. A few high profile appointments to his friends? The Cambridge police and George Zimmerman really heard from Obama and that settled all the bigger issues of the black community, right ?


31 posted on 05/13/2012 9:18:18 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rogue yam

Was he or was he not the architect and implementer of a socialized healthcare plan in Mass?

Did he or did he not sign an assault weapons ban?

Did he or did he not sign numerous tax increases?

Did he or did he not just suggest that Obama stole his ideas for a bailout of the auto industry?

If it walks like a duck....


32 posted on 05/14/2012 5:09:58 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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