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Drug 'Devil's Breath' from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 12, 2012 | Beth Stebner

Posted on 05/13/2012 3:57:59 PM PDT by Innovative

Scopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinks

Within minutes, victims are like 'zombies' - coherent, but with no free will

Some victims report emptying bank accounts to robbers or helping them pillage own house

Drug is made from borrachero tree, which is common in Colombia

... He told Vice that Scopolamine can be blown in the face of a passer-by on the street, and within minutes, that person is under the drug's effect - scopolamine is odourless and tasteless-

'You can guide them wherever you want,' he explained. 'It's like they're a child.'

Black said that one gram of Scopolamine is similar to a gram of cocaine, but later called it 'worse than anthrax.'

In high doses, it is lethal.

The drug, he said, turns people into complete zombies and blocks memories from forming. So even after the drug wears off, victims have no recollection as to what happened.

One victim told Vice that a man approached her on the street asking her for directions. Since it was close by, she helped take the man to his destination, and they drank juice together.

She took the man to her house and helped him gather all of her belongings, including her boyfriend's cameras and savings.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: blowninface; devilsbreath; drugs; scopolamine
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I think the scariest part is that it can be blown into the face of someone by a stranger pssing by or nearby anywhere.
1 posted on 05/13/2012 3:58:18 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative
The bushes have beautiful flowers:

There used to be some flowers just like this at an apartment complex here..don't know if it's the same thing.

2 posted on 05/13/2012 4:06:14 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

This is an angel trumpet (brugmansia)


3 posted on 05/13/2012 4:08:54 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Innovative

aka Instant Democrat


4 posted on 05/13/2012 4:10:58 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Innovative

The anti-motion sickness drug? I think it’s over the counter, right?


5 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:09 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Innovative

Needed this for my first marriage.


6 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:16 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: BillyBonebrake

Yes. Be careful the next time you’re at a polling place.


7 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Innovative

Sheesh! I coulda used this for my ex-wife!


8 posted on 05/13/2012 4:15:34 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Innovative

Scopolamine patches are worn by space travelers to prevent space sickness.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 4:16:44 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Scopolamine patches are worn by space travelers to prevent space sickness.

From my experience, they don't always work.

10 posted on 05/13/2012 4:20:35 PM PDT by Misterioso (I voted Republican all my life and all I got was a communist president.)
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To: Innovative

I think you can get scopolamine from Jimson Weed, including the other belladonna alkaloid atropine.


11 posted on 05/13/2012 4:21:48 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Innovative

Wonderful. A drug that creates democrats.


12 posted on 05/13/2012 4:29:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Innovative

Pure scopolamine, I’m skeptical, as with the claim that a puff of powder enough to have physiological effects can be put in the face of a passer-by without his or her noticing. Even Rooskie agents need umbrellas.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 4:31:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Innovative

Sounds like the basis for writing a new capital crime law. I would torture then burn then chop off the limbs then tie them to a post to dehydrate and die for using that against someone.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 4:34:05 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Innovative

These plants are available in well-stocked garden centers. The seeds are widely available in catalogues, and frequently do not even note that the plants can be toxic.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 4:52:31 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Innovative

Wasn’t there a 60 minute segment on this where the memory effect was nullified by grape juice?

The victims were being raped by a$$holes but this one girl was able to remember her assailant


16 posted on 05/13/2012 4:56:17 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Innovative

In the Guns of Navarone they used it on the captured Major.


17 posted on 05/13/2012 5:08:45 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: cripplecreek
Wonderful. A drug that creates democrats.

ZOMBIE DEMOCRATS

18 posted on 05/13/2012 5:13:54 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Innovative

Blow that into lines of voters on November 6 and Ø will win by a landslide.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 5:45:34 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Innovative
Brugmansia, Datura or Angel's Trumpet. Photobucket

BRUGMANSIA DATURA

20 posted on 05/13/2012 5:59:58 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Innovative

Absolutely the best thing ever for seasickness.

A patch lasts three days.

21 posted on 05/13/2012 6:02:12 PM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid is supposed to hurt)
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To: aruanan
"I think you can get scopolamine from Jimson Weed, including the other belladonna alkaloid atropine."

Effects of ingestion ...a complete inability to differentiate reality from fantasy... Wiki

Probably the best description of what it's like to be under it's influence. Don't ask how I know.

I'm thinking this is what inspired the poison used by the psych doctor in the movie "Batman Begins". He blew it on people too.

22 posted on 05/13/2012 6:08:45 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Innovative
My favorite zombies:


23 posted on 05/13/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: DollyCali

I got the picture from Mail online (where the OP got the story) This is pictured as the bush where the poisonous stuff comes from.

As I said, there used to be one of these at an apt complex here and I’m sure they called it an angel trumpet.
It’s got to be different from that poison bush. They couldn’t have anything so poisonous growing out in public.


24 posted on 05/13/2012 6:44:13 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Innovative

That’s wild, as this was just used in an episode of ‘Castle’ not too long ago. The murderer used this drug to convince someone who was playing a zombie that they actually were one and sent him to kill someone. I figured they were making it up at the time just to have a plot, but it’s actually a real thing.


25 posted on 05/13/2012 6:45:42 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: P.O.E.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=11218


26 posted on 05/13/2012 6:46:02 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Innovative

I think a house in my neighbor has or had this stuff growing in their yard. Is it a tree or a vine growing in a tree? I’ll have to go and look for it tomorrow.


27 posted on 05/13/2012 6:51:21 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

typo.... should be neighborhood


28 posted on 05/13/2012 6:52:43 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Innovative

Now we know what happened to the SS agents in Columbia....:))


29 posted on 05/13/2012 7:10:12 PM PDT by jennings2004 (President Hayes, Mount Rushmore, telephone, Dear Leader...what a mix!)
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To: patriot08
As I said, there used to be one of these at an apt complex here and I’m sure they called it an angel trumpet. It’s got to be different from that poison bush. They couldn’t have anything so poisonous growing out in public.

You can purchase those plants at quite a few nurseries in San Antonio. If you think Datura is bad, try chewing Morning Glory seeds..........

30 posted on 05/13/2012 7:17:24 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: patriot08
They couldn’t have anything so poisonous growing out in public.

It grows wild pretty much everywhere.

31 posted on 05/13/2012 7:19:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: patriot08
They couldn’t have anything so poisonous growing out in public.

Of the poisonous plants that can grow in any given area, very few are regulated by the government, and even fewer have those regulations enforced. It's quite possible to have deadly poisons growing all around you and never know it. There's a book called "Wicked Plants" that tells about some of them, but the author readily admits that it doesn't cover all of them.
32 posted on 05/13/2012 7:23:07 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Dogbert41

33 posted on 05/13/2012 7:24:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Innovative

You think that the Food Stamp President and the Democrats were onto this during the 2008 election? Sure sounds like the followers of the evil one.


34 posted on 05/13/2012 7:30:45 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Innovative

This would explain the 2008 election. And the 2012 Republican race.


35 posted on 05/13/2012 7:34:56 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: Ellendra
It's quite possible to have deadly poisons growing all around you and never know it.

Like jimson weed, potatoes and tomatoes are also nightshade plants and potentially poisonous. Deadly poisonous landscape plants include caster oil and oleander plants.


36 posted on 05/13/2012 7:35:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Shades of "White Zombie" one of my fave movies.

In his mansion when you walked down the stairs, there were zombies in the walls that would hold candleabras out as you walked by, very spooky.

37 posted on 05/13/2012 7:44:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It’s nearly impossible to kill an Oleander plant. We had ours dug up a couple or three years ago. They dug down several feet with a backhoe to try to get the roots. Today, it still comes up in dozens of places within 15 foot radius’ from it’s original locations.

The lawn mover cuts them all down, but they still keep coming up.


38 posted on 05/13/2012 7:49:16 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Innovative

***Scopolamine****

Isn’t this the stuff the evil Nazis used on a captured commando (Anthony Quale) in THE GUNS OF NAVARONE?


39 posted on 05/13/2012 7:52:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well yeah, like orleander and morning glory seeds, but THIS thing- sounds like it could do you in by the wind just blowing it on you. I don’t think they’d have anything so dangerous around.


40 posted on 05/13/2012 8:03:03 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Misterioso; rawcatslyentist
rawcatslyentist: Scopolamine patches are worn by space travelers to prevent space sickness.

Misterioso: From my experience, they don't always work.

Okay, Best Intriguing Freeper Post of 2012 Award.

41 posted on 05/13/2012 8:24:20 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

It grows wild pretty much everywhere.
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I don’t think the ‘Devil’s Breath’ in the story and Angel Trumpits here could be the same thing.
If you read the story, they had to go to South America to investigate the plant.


42 posted on 05/13/2012 8:28:06 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: gusopol3

There was recently an episode of ‘Criminal Intent’ that involved a serial killer who used this drug on victims. The bad guy dumped some white powder on a tray (I was just figuring it was cocaine) and then blew it into his victims face. Then he instructed the guy to kill his own son, who was also a captive. This all happened on the bad guy’s fishing boat.


43 posted on 05/13/2012 8:34:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (No Romney, no way.)
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To: P.O.E.
My favorite zombie:


44 posted on 05/13/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (No Romney, no way.)
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To: tet68

Huh... A topless White Zombie.


45 posted on 05/13/2012 8:39:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (No Romney, no way.)
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To: Innovative

It would be interesting if certain political figures were made to tell the truth.


46 posted on 05/13/2012 8:52:27 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: lightman
Blow that into lines of voters on November 6 and Ø will win by a landslide.

Not if we do it first. JUST KIDDING!

47 posted on 05/13/2012 9:00:28 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: patriot08
The Devil's Breath is the concoction containing scopolamine, which is also contained in any number of the solanaceae family, toxic varieties of which grow pretty much everywhere.

Brugmansia is the plant used in Colombia and Datura is the plant supposedly consumed by Carlos Castenda in Mexico. The two are closely related members of the solanaceae family and both are known as Angel's Trumpet.

The Colombians may be misusing it but the reporters could probably have gone just about anywhere to locate a source of scopolamine. I know a couple guys who tried some wild Jimson weed they found around their camp site in Southern California back in the 70s.

48 posted on 05/13/2012 10:07:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Oh, ok. Wow.
Glad I never picked any of those flowers. (they are so beautiful) They shouldn’t have those things growing around public places. Children don’t know they’re dangerous.


49 posted on 05/13/2012 10:17:28 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I live near the beach here, and there have been more than a few tourists who have poisoned themselves by using oleander branches (oleander bushes are everywhere along the beaches)to spear hot dogs to roast.


50 posted on 05/13/2012 10:20:03 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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