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Spanish aircraft carrier’s end could be near
Euro Weekly Online ^ | 12 May 2012 | Linda Hall

Posted on 05/13/2012 7:19:32 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Spanish aircraft carrier’s end could be near

SPAIN’S Navy is considering mothballing the Principe de Asturias aircraft carrier as well as six Santa Maria-class frigates.

The ships would remain on “restricted duties” awaiting a return to operational duties, Navy sources said.

This could be the first step towards decommissioning the ships, experts believe. The medium term economic situation was unlikely to improve and ships deteriorate quickly when not in constant use, they pointed out.

The vessels’ age also meant that they would require such substantial refits before returning to active service that this might not be cost-effective.

By 2018 the Principe de Asturias will be 30 years old - the usual extent of a warship’s life cycle.

Nine years ago it was due for a complete refit which was never carried out, owing to the €400 million this would have cost.

The aircraft carrier now requires increasing repairs and much of its equipment is obsolete. Meanwhile, military spending has been reduced by almost 25 per cent over the last four years.

The €6,316 million allocated to Defence in this year’s budget was 8.84 per cent less than in 2011.

Days at sea for Navy vessels were cut from 49 to 40 and their fuel allowance reduced by 44 per cent.

The Principe de Asturias’ activities are now very limited and the aircraft carrier no longer participates in international manoeuvres.

These are restricted to exercises near the Rota naval base like those carried out last month in Cadiz Bay for pilots qualifying to fly Harrier jump jets.

Any decision regarding the Principe de Asturias would be taken “at the very highest political level”, Navy insiders revealed. It is Spain’s only aircraft carrier and a significant deterrent, the same sources argued.

Its mere presence in a conflict area would be one of the most convincing political messages it was possible to send, they claimed.

By Linda Hall


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; eu; navair; principedeasturias; spain

Principe de Asturias

1 posted on 05/13/2012 7:19:42 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks small.


2 posted on 05/13/2012 7:21:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Harrier Carrier


3 posted on 05/13/2012 7:24:29 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What exactly is the current military threat to Spain? Other than prestige, why do they need a carrier?


4 posted on 05/13/2012 7:25:50 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Well then they will have more money to spend on social programs and they know that the Soviets, or the Chinese will defend them in return for “favors”.
5 posted on 05/13/2012 7:27:06 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m sorry but I find that bow oddly attractive,
rather sexy looking, that tapering bow, those
round anchor ports...


6 posted on 05/13/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You call THAT an aircraft carrier, THIS is an aircraft carrier.


7 posted on 05/13/2012 7:29:05 PM PDT by Kent1957
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To: Kent1957

Yes....stealth!


8 posted on 05/13/2012 7:33:57 PM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: rottndog

Mostly, former glory. I don’t know if the Canary Islands, and a few islands in the Med. justify their Navy from their pov. I expect more countries to cut back, while we maintain their security on our dime.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 7:44:32 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Okay Guys and Gals, you can make allot of jokes about the Spanish Navy and their Harrier Carrier, but these Guys have a set of Iron Twins as I have seen them in action first hand and they can nuts to sink several ships, if they had too. These crazy SOBs come screaming in 20-30 feet off the water carrying anti-ship Missiles and one of the main reasons they have Harrier Carries is because under NATO, they along with Italy are tasked with NATO’s Anti-Sub efforts.


10 posted on 05/13/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by Trueblackman (I would rather lose on Conservative principles than vote for a RINO candidate.)
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To: rottndog
Other than prestige, why do they need a carrier?

Prestige is enough of a reason, actually. But no nation can for long project military power and support millions of deadbeats, both at the same time.

It's one or the other. Spain has made its choice. America will make that same choice soon, I fear.

11 posted on 05/13/2012 7:53:01 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: AppyPappy
Harrier Carrier

They don't neeed a carrier for Harriers.

12 posted on 05/13/2012 7:58:04 PM PDT by moovova (OBAMA: The first US President to come out of the closet.)
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To: tet68

I believe, can stand corrected if wrong, that US aircraft also have an up swept launch deck. The purpose is to use available launching power to gain extra elevation at take-off.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 7:59:01 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

Heh, yes, you can and will be corrected...:)

No, they don’t have upswept ramps on US carriers.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 8:20:58 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

With the muslim populations rising in europe and soon to be major minorities or even majorities in a couple decades, it may not be a bad thing that european countries can’t afford their militaries and the necessary equipment that could wind up attacking us under a caliphate’s rule there.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 8:41:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: noinfringers2
I believe, can stand corrected if wrong, that US aircraft also have an up swept launch deck. The purpose is to use available launching power to gain extra elevation at take-off.

No, but the Russians and perhaps some other have it. I think it's kind of a small-carrier thing.

16 posted on 05/13/2012 8:44:15 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Spain needs a Navy?...... WHY?..


17 posted on 05/13/2012 9:13:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Still Thinking
The now-scrapped UK "harrier carrier" the Ark Royal did have an upswept deck -


18 posted on 05/13/2012 11:15:07 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Asturias is basically a carbon copy of the Sea Control Ship that Elmo Zumwalt proposed in the 70’s when he was CNO, as part of his “High-Low” package, an idea that I think we should seriously take another look at. In short, it means that we achieve high fleet numbers by not just buying the uber-expensive capital ships, but supplementing them with lots of smaller cheaper ships that could do some jobs more cost-effictively, but do the job well. Zumwalt’s plan called for 8 of these VSTOL carriers to patrol sea lanes doing basic fighter patrol and helicopter anti-sub ops. When the ill-fated XFV-12 didn’t work out, they planned to use an American copy of the Sea Harrier. Big flatop guys wouldn’t have it though, and fought behind the scenes to kill off anything that wasn’t a Nimitz class.

Only two of Zumwalt’s proposed ship classes from this project actually made it into production. The Pegasus Class hydrofoils were built, but only six of them, and the Navy never really supported the program, doing everything they could to kill. The Perry Class frigates, however, were the most numerous post-WWII class of ship to be built until the Burke destroyers came along.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 12:01:23 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Still Thinking
I think it's kind of a small-carrier thing.

It's a not equipped with catapults thing.

20 posted on 05/14/2012 5:48:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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061007-N-3888C-001 Gulf of Lion (Oct. 7, 2005) - An AV-8B Harrier II takes off from the flight deck of Spanish aircraft carrier SPS (Strategic Protection Ship) Principe de Asturias (R 11) during an air defense exercise as part of NATO Exercise Brilliant Midas 2006. Brilliant Midas is a multinational exercise in the Mediterranean Sea, where guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71) is the flagship for Standing NATO Maritime Group Two (SNMG-2). U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Leonardo Carrillo (RELEASED)

21 posted on 05/14/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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