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Florida investigation reveals 180,000 non-citizens may be registered to vote
Right Side News ^ | 1/14/2012 | Dan Spencer

Posted on 05/14/2012 5:03:09 AM PDT by IbJensen

Florida officials have discovered that 180,000 registered voters may be non-citizens.

A CBS4/Miami Herald analysis of information supplied by Miami-Dade shows a large number of the potential non-citizens voters cast ballots in the past — including the 2000 election, when the presidency was decided by just over 500 votes.

According to Deputy Supervisor of Elections Christina White, there are a “lot of non-citizens on our registration rolls.”

Florida’s Division of Elections is checking the citizenship of voters by comparing drivers license records, which show whether a licensed driver is also a U.S. citizen.

Non-citizens are able to become registered voters in Florida because if a non-citizen checks the box on the voter registration form that says they are a citizen they are registered to vote, because the form is signed under oath.

Those registered who are identified as possible non-citizens are reported to the State Attorney’s office The States Attorney may charge anyone who unlawfully registered to vote with a felony.

According to the Heritage Foundation’s Hans Von Spakovsky, Florida’s investigation is only looking at legal immigrants, not illegal aliens, who may have registered to vote even though they are not citizens. Von Spakovsky, a former member of the Federal Elections Commission, says that Florida is doing the right thing with this investigation, but is only scratching the surface. Florida can’t check for illegal aliens who registered to vote because the Federal government is not giving Florida access to Immigration and Naturalization Service records which would help identify illegals who have registered to vote.

You can watch Bill Hemmer and Hans Von Spakovsky discuss Florida’s investigation of non-citizens illegally voting in the accompanying video here.

Nearly four years after CNN reported on the scandalous ACORN voter fraud, and those fraudulent voter registrations were converted into fraudulent votes, we are still struggling to prevent voter fraud. Instead of working to prevent voter fraud, the Obama regime goes so far as to sue some states that require voters to show a photo ID in order to vote.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; illegalvoters; obamasaceinhold; votingillegals
Either get this mess straightened up once and for all or kiss this nation goodbye. How these weasels are permitted to get awsy with this murder of a republic escapes me. It should either be stop and desist, or it should be a war to cleanse out the criminals!

this isn't shenanegans, it's treason the kind that should lead to the firing squad!

The right to vote should be beyond reach for those who entered the US illegally. Using dead or non-existant names to steal elections should be a criminal case with top priority and be punishable by death.

We must pack them into reail cars or busses and ship them all back to wence they came.

A reformed policy of some kind is going to go through congress. The pandering to and for the illegal populace is changing the game for all of us.

For many of us our votes are futile as thousands of illegals and dead people will be voting against us. Is this a republic that can allow this type of criminal actions to continue?

1 posted on 05/14/2012 5:03:15 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

How do you really feel??


2 posted on 05/14/2012 5:05:37 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: IbJensen; Liz

Christina White, there are a “lot of non-citizens on our registration rolls.”
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Well DUH

since you can identify them take them off the rolls...


3 posted on 05/14/2012 5:05:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: IbJensen

Florida has many small towns around the big lake that are majority illegal and that NEVER see an ice agent
Gots to help big sugar, big cattle and big citrus.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 5:06:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: IbJensen

100% agreed! Year after year it’s the same damn thing! FIX IT!! It can’t be that difficult!


5 posted on 05/14/2012 5:10:20 AM PDT by albie
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To: IbJensen

The League Of Women Voters is engaged in a criminal conspiracy to violate election laws by conducting voter registration campaigns where it is known there are high percentages of illegals.


6 posted on 05/14/2012 5:16:38 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: IbJensen
Either get this mess straightened up once and for all or kiss this nation goodbye.

When you have a usurper and possible non-citizen in the white hut, we've already bid "Bon Voyage". I expect "officials" to say that they're going to "check into it" or conclude "nothing can be done" and hope that the matter goes away. Dims will drag their feet and delay the process. The public has a very short attention span.

7 posted on 05/14/2012 5:19:36 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: IbJensen
Florida’s investigation is only looking at legal immigrants, not illegal aliens, who may have registered to vote even though they are not citizens

WTF?

Mike

8 posted on 05/14/2012 5:23:07 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: IbJensen

In the year 2000, we had a giant problem with the FLORIDA vote, hanging chads and whatnot. So that was probably a landslide for Bush, but for 8 years the libs said that he stole the election. Looks like they were wrong again.


9 posted on 05/14/2012 5:23:30 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @Kin)
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To: MichaelP
Should have read further before I posted...

Florida can’t check for illegal aliens who registered to vote because the Federal government is not giving Florida access to Immigration and Naturalization Service records which would help identify illegals who have registered to vote.

WTF!

Mike

10 posted on 05/14/2012 5:25:20 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: All

“We need to move the deck chairs to the right side of the titanic!

NO! NO! We need to move them to the left side!”


11 posted on 05/14/2012 5:27:19 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: jjotto

Scratch a member of the The League Of Women Voters and you will find a Pro-Abortionist (Pro like in professional). Do a search of League of Women Voters and Abortion.
Don’t understand why Pro-Life candidates participate in Debates sponsored by the LWV or give them the time of day.


12 posted on 05/14/2012 5:32:00 AM PDT by BilLies ( The Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , PBS etc., hate your Loyal American guts!))
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To: Tennessee Nana

The only shocking aspect of the story is that a CBS station revealed the fact.


13 posted on 05/14/2012 5:48:12 AM PDT by Pecos (In God we trust. All others - bring data.)
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To: jjotto

The League Of Women Voters is nothing, but a Democrat front group...Call them for what they are... “The Democrat League of Women Voters”, and I bet you most belong to N.O.W.
The haters of God, Family, and Fathers, Boys , and the real meaning of marriage holy union before God (Man and Woman).


14 posted on 05/14/2012 5:48:12 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: IbJensen

The article does NOT say what they are doing about it.


15 posted on 05/14/2012 5:48:18 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: BilLies

agreed.


16 posted on 05/14/2012 5:49:54 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: IbJensen

Oops...now this could really be an ‘ahhsh!t’ moment!!


17 posted on 05/14/2012 5:51:35 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: IbJensen

This article was published in January. Five months have passed. Has anything been done?


18 posted on 05/14/2012 5:57:41 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: ncpatriot

Republicrats have taken their usual mum stance.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 6:07:56 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen
"these weasels are permitted to get away with this murder of a republic"

It seems to me that they are ENABLED and ENCOURAGED by the Democrat Party in furtherance of a seizing of power. ("The Ends justify the Means" etc., etc)

20 posted on 05/14/2012 6:29:43 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon
...they are ENABLED and ENCOURAGED by the Democrat Party...

BINGO!

21 posted on 05/14/2012 6:31:33 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: IbJensen
Florida can’t check for illegal aliens who registered to vote because the Federal government is not giving Florida access to Immigration and Naturalization Service records which would help identify illegals who have registered to vote.

Sounds like it's time for Republicans to push a bill in Congress to mandate that INS and ICE provide records to States so that citizenship of illegals can be confirmed, and to mandate penalties when such bills are not observed.

22 posted on 05/14/2012 6:49:22 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: All
Voter fraud? Watta surprise /snix). Keep in mind, these fraudsters are Third World "voting blocs".... organized to put fear into vote crazed-US politicians, to exchange fraudulent votes for zillions in foreign aid for these hellholes.

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The phony "just here for a better life" crowd who freely violate our borders and "do the jobs Americans won't do" have more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably votes and collects US benefits under every single identity.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

23 posted on 05/14/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: King_Corey

gotta love pam bondi


24 posted on 05/14/2012 6:58:33 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Clintonfatigued; rintense; PAConservative1; 2ndDivisionVet
Instead of working to prevent voter fraud, the Obama regime goes so far as to sue some states that require voters to show a photo ID in order to vote.

Shockeroo (/snix). Ohaha's aiding and abetting voter fraud---b/c that's the only way the goofball can stay in office. He's so desperate he'll go to any lengths.

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ACTION NOW:

<><>Each state's Secy of State is the office that oversees voter fraud.

<><> Inundate yours state with all the info posted here WRT multiple identities.

<><> Inundate the media with the same info.

<><> Contact the Secy of State and L/E in your state.

<><> Inundate the FLA Secy of State's office with info about multiple identities.

25 posted on 05/14/2012 7:11:28 AM PDT by Liz
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To: goseminoles

All part of the plan, get people to lose faith in elections, and dictatorship is just a step away.


26 posted on 05/14/2012 7:12:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: IbJensen

Think about it: which would the Body Politic, (i.e., the interlocked Liberal Agenda Media (LAM), Democrats and RINOs), find easier to attack, marginalize and ignore?

1.) A single topic attack on them?

OR

2.) A multi-topic attack on them?

Now that their 80 + year Keynesian Rule of us has finally run out of money, we Financial Conservatives know that we have circled the prey and stand ready to attack.

AAHHHHHHRRRRLLLLWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Necessary to our attack is the attack from as many other types of Conservatives as possible. The more “hot-button” attacks, the better. Multi-pronged beats single-pronged attacks every time!

Presently the arrogant Democrats either ignore all Conservatives, try to marginalize us as “A vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy,” or accuse us of being villains, mainly through the Court of Public Opinion which is owned by the Liberal Agenda Media, (LAM).

My overarching point is that politicians come and go, political parties come and go, but the thinking that supports the idea that it is SANE to spend more money this year than was taken in as income last year remains entrenched in the policies of the Body Politic, which is the inter-dependant linkage of the LAM, Dems, RINOs, and most importantly you and I as voters.

Support and vote for who you want to, but before you do look into the eyes of your children and grandchildren and tell them that because of you voting or not voting, THEY will have to work a large part of each of their work days for the rest of their lives to pay back principle AND interest to the owners of US Federal Government Bonds that WE sold to give us OUR “Entitlements” of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obama”care,” Unemployment payments to workers out of work, Food Stamps, Housing assistance to Illegal Aliens, Free Hospital “Emergency” Medical and Dental care to Illegal Aliens AND their extended families who continue to live permanently in Mexico, Aid to Dependent Children, No child Left Behind, Federal Aid to Education of Young Socialists, “Free” Student loans to future Federal politicians and bureaucrats, etc., etc., etc.

BTW, to put all of this into perspective, if you are now paying the very low rate of only 10 % Personal Federal Income Tax, then you are currently working every one of your workdays at 10 % X 8 hours = 0.8 hours X 60 minutes = 48 minutes of EVERY work day for The Federal Plantation located at 1600 Plantation Avenue, in the District of Corruption, USSA.

Those 48 minutes per work day feed the Federal Beast for only 60 % of each year, forcing the current Sheriff of Nottingham Timmy Gee to sell more Federal Bonds that HE says that YOUR grandchildren’s descendants will be more than happy to pay off.

Did I just describe a “Bond Bubble?” Obviously not as I am just a marginalized, and ignored member of “The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.”

Yep, Hilly said it before she became Obama’s Secretary of Statements. She knew that eventually we would conspire to replace The Body Politic with a system that works.

You know, the one our Founding Fathers came up with, and clearly specified in THE US CONSTITUTION.

May God Bless America, again. (This time let us not be allowed to take His blessings for granted).
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First Bachmann wins the Iowa Straw Poll. Then Romney wins the early count of the Iowa Caucuses, and within a shake of a lamb’s tail Santorum wins in the late count.

Now an FR article predicts that Ron Paul will have the majority of voting delegates from Iowa.

If Paul’s plan to cut 1 TRILLION dollars in year-to-year Federal spending, AND abolish 5 Federal Departments are the main reasons for Iowa Delegates to thaw out their opposition to Paul, then it might later be said that “as Iowa goes, so goes the Nation.”

BTW, “T” is for Texas, Tampa and those of us who are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!”

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Here are some more reasons to vote for Ron Paul in the remaining Primary elections:

1.) It will drive the Liberal Agenda Media (LAM) and their Rove-style political consultants NUTS!

2.) It will deny statistical support to Romney.

3.) It could result in an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

4.) It would irritate the snot out of the GOP-E.

5.) It will put the GOP-E on notice that we think that their RINO Party has done NOTHING since we sent 89 TEA Party men and women to the US Congress in 2010.

6.) An OPEN Convention is our ONLY chance of a successful DUMP ROMNEY campaign.

7.) A superb, true “Dark Horse” Republican Nominee needs an OPEN Convention to replace Romney.

BTW, did I mention the sheer joy of watching the GOP-Endorsers publicly eating crow?

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What the Liberal Agenda Media has never figured out, is that the 2012 National Election will be the last National Election where Campaign topics other than the National Debt will be debated again.

IOW, when the grim reaper of financial reality forces Federal Politicians in “both” parties to pay the US Bond owners before payments to our Entitlement recipients, it will terminate discussion on the main topics that we chatter about so far in 2012.

This National election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money.

Ron Paul is to old and to disliked as being different from what most voters picture a US President to look and sound like to win the Nomination.

HOWEVER, Ron Paul as an Anbody-but-Romney candidate in Tampa is our last, best chance to have an OPEN Convention in Tampa, and for that alone he deserves our Primary voter support.

Paul has soldiered on through this entire Primary Campaign. Let us help him establish a beachhead on the Shores of Tampa!

My Favorite Dark Horse was R Sc US Senator Jim DeMint, but I have been told by those in the know that Jim will not run for POTUS.

Fortunately, there are many other great potential nominees who would be far more acceptable to us than any of the Primary Candidates so far, but a “Dump Romney” action requires an OPEN Convention.

For those who object to Paul as a Nominee, then treat him as a tired old political soldier who will, with our help, win the Battle to achieve an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

THEN the delegates can win the War, and choose the best Nominee to solve our National Debt Problem.

Remember, this election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money - - - - .

What is the best way that you can use your Primary vote to help the financial future of YOUR descendants?


27 posted on 05/14/2012 7:44:30 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: IbJensen

So what the hell is anyone going to do about-—nothing!


28 posted on 05/14/2012 7:57:12 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: IbJensen

Something sounds amiss in this article. It seems to be very carefully written to *avoid* being clear on one important point.

“Florida officials have discovered that 180,000 registered voters may be non-citizens.”

Do they mean “non-citizens of the United States”, or just “non-citizens of the state of Florida”?

The reason this question needs to be asked is that, for many years now, a LOT of people who own homes in both New York state and Florida, have been voting in *both* states.

A lot of this is done for tax reasons, that is, tax evasion. Pretending to be a resident of Florida when it is time to pay New York taxes, and visa versa.

But if this is the case, while the situation is not a good thing, and should be policed up by both states, it is a far cry from the outrage were all these people illegal aliens who were voting.


29 posted on 05/14/2012 8:09:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: IbJensen

30 posted on 05/14/2012 7:32:23 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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