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The Spirit of Geert Wilders [Steyn]
nationalreview.com/ ^ | May 14, 2012 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/14/2012 5:32:06 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

When I was asked to write a foreword to Geert Wilders’ new book, my first reaction, to be honest, was to pass. Mr. Wilders lives under 24/7 armed guard because significant numbers of motivated people wish to kill him, and it seemed to me, as someone who’s attracted more than enough homicidal attention over the years, that sharing space in these pages was likely to lead to an uptick in my own death threats. Who needs it? Why not just plead too crowded a schedule and suggest the author try elsewhere? I would imagine Geert Wilders gets quite a lot of this.

And then I took a stroll in the woods, and felt vaguely ashamed at the ease with which I was willing to hand a small victory to his enemies. After I saw off the Islamic enforcers in my own country, their frontman crowed to The Canadian Arab News that, even though the Canadian Islamic Congress had struck out in three different jurisdictions in their attempt to criminalize my writing about Islam, the lawsuits had cost my magazine (he boasted) two million bucks, and thereby “attained our strategic objective — to increase the cost of publishing anti-Islamic material.” In the Netherlands, Mr. Wilders’ foes, whether murderous jihadists or the multicultural establishment, share the same “strategic objective” — to increase the cost of associating with him beyond that which most people are willing to bear. It is not easy to be Geert Wilders. He has spent almost a decade in a strange, claustrophobic, transient, and tenuous existence little different from kidnap victims or, in his words, a political prisoner. He is under round-the-clock guard because of explicit threats to murder him by Muslim extremists.

Yet he’s the one who gets put on trial for incitement.

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"In 21st-century Amsterdam, you’re free to smoke marijuana and pick out a half-naked sex partner from the front window of her shop. But you can be put on trial for holding the wrong opinion about a bloke who died in the seventh century."


1 posted on 05/14/2012 5:32:09 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

Where’s the link?


2 posted on 05/14/2012 5:36:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The Spirit of Geert Wilders

Sorry. A chilling five pages. Religion of Peace. /s

3 posted on 05/14/2012 5:50:17 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I’ve heard of Wilders but never read or watched any of his stuff. I saw an interview with him Friday and it was the very first time I ever saw anyone besides me say, in front of God and everybody, that Islam should be treated as a political belief and not as a religion.

In fact, it was kinda creepy just how many obscure opinions he and I both share regarding islam.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 5:50:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat: Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
5 posted on 05/14/2012 5:58:34 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Admin Moderator

In my haste to post, I skipped over some key items - like the link, author, source, etc. .... facepalm


6 posted on 05/14/2012 6:01:13 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That quote makes me speculate about the cause when the effect is the rise of islam and islamic terror.


7 posted on 05/14/2012 6:02:30 AM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Wow. Chilling indeed. They are brave men—and having to even say that is a sad statement.


8 posted on 05/14/2012 6:16:29 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: JLS

Steyn ping. [forgive the poor posting]


9 posted on 05/14/2012 6:23:59 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

“So it is necessary for more of us to do what Ayaan Hirsi Ali recommends: share the risk. So that the next time a novel or a cartoon provokes a fatwa, it will be republished worldwide and send the Islamic enforcers a message: Killing one of us won’t do it. You’d better have a great credit line at the Bank of Jihad because you’ll have to kill us all.”

Thank you, Mark, for that defiant stand. However, at some point we will have to move from a defiant DEFENSIVE stand to an OFFENSE. The longer we wait to go on the offense in the discussion of ideas then the greater the probability our offense of discussing ideas will have to be replaced with an offense of force.

Otherwise, they will “kill us all”.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 6:37:22 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: GBA
It is strange to me that even those who oppose the pro-Islamic tilt in Western countries refuse to face the fact that this tilt is probably due to Arab and Iranian money being fed to the 'right people', and is not just the result of multicultural thinking (tho' there's plenty of that, too).

Follow the money!

11 posted on 05/14/2012 6:38:36 AM PDT by expat2
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To: BwanaNdege
Mark, I tend to agree with you on most things, but the bank of Jihad is financing the killing of us all. The thousands of people killed in the attacks on 9/11 - turning passenger planes into flying bombs - wasn't directed at anyone they had a jihad against, it was an attack upon non-believers.

The attacks on the subway in the UK, the Spanish train derailment, the thousands of rapes throughout Europe - no jihad, simply the murderous cult stretching it's arms, letting everyone know that it has arrived, and you'd best convert or suffer.

You were a target before writing this, you continue to be a target, simply because you do not bow down to Mecca five times a day. I thought you understood that, Mr. Steyn. You seem to touch upon it constantly, but it doesn't appear that the connection has been fully made within your mind.

Anyone who doesn't bow to Islam is a target. The only difference between you and the deniers is that you choose to write about it, while they think that by avoiding the subject, they exclude themselves from the target pool. They don't; they simply remain within the largest target pool there is: free people.

12 posted on 05/14/2012 6:58:05 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: BwanaNdege
However, at some point we will have to move from a defiant DEFENSIVE stand to an OFFENSE.

I suggest a good philosophical first step is to resolve in ones own mind to do two things.

First, make every effort to present oneself as scrupulously impartial, or even slightly favoring the prosecution, so as to be chosen for service should one be called for jury duty.

Second, to privately and secretly refuse to convict anyone being prosecuted by the state for actions taken against Islamists, regardless of the defendant's objective violation of any statute.

13 posted on 05/14/2012 7:01:29 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Servant of the Cross

We must not sit back and pretend that this is not a problem here. Our own government is giving Islam a pass on everything...to include obedience to American laws, Obamacare, allowing Shariah law in muslim-dominant neighborhoods, etc. We need to take back America before it is too late!


14 posted on 05/14/2012 7:29:52 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Servant of the Cross
As John Milton wrote in his Areopagitica of 1644, “Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience.” It is a tragedy that Milton’s battles have to be re-fought three-and-a-half centuries on, but the Western world is shuffling into a psychological bondage of its own making. Geert Wilders is not ready to surrender without exercising his right to know, to utter, and to argue freely — in print, on screen, and at the ballot box. We should cherish that spirit, while we can.

God Bless Steyn, keep him safe and free...

15 posted on 05/14/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: cuban leaf

“I’ve heard of Wilders but never read or watched any of his stuff. I saw an interview with him Friday and it was the very first time I ever saw anyone besides me say, in front of God and everybody, that Islam should be treated as a political belief and not as a religion.
In fact, it was kinda creepy just how many obscure opinions he and I both share regarding islam.”

Geert Wilders is probably the closest resemblance to Winston Churchill The West has right now.

Steyn makes some comments about how Wilders is denigrated by being labeled a member of the European “far right” and “fringe”.

Western Europe is reaching that point where the only parties that have the will and intestinal fortitude to save it will be the parties of The Right — the HARD right. If there is to be a true struggle that vanquishes Islam from Europe it must come from them.

Otherwise, the best stock to buy in places like the Netherlands is in companies that produce burqhas...


16 posted on 05/14/2012 8:28:41 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Servant of the Cross

The numbers are against us which leaves us with
the only alternative, to destroy the pillars
of their faith, to bring their own beliefs into
question. I believe the total destruction of
Mecca would have such an effect coupled with
sufficient propaganda directed toward Allah
punishing the faithful for their actions.

In a war of attrition we cannot win
but we do have the power to win
we must make up our minds to use it.


17 posted on 05/14/2012 9:19:21 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping, LINK IN POST NUMBER 3.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Servant of the Cross and heads up on the link issue. As you can see it took all of 5 words to alert people, so it is not big deal.


18 posted on 05/14/2012 9:20:58 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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To: cuban leaf

There are plenty of us like that here at Free Republic.

See tagline.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 9:33:03 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JLS

bttt


20 posted on 05/14/2012 9:47:24 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Servant of the Cross

That is really an excellent and powerful essay Steyn wrote as the forward to the Wilder’s book.

This passage really stood out to me:

‘’ ... It’s not necessary to agree with everything Mr. Wilders says in this book — or, in fact, anything he says — to recognize that, when the leader of the third-biggest party in one of the oldest democratic legislatures on earth has to live under constant threat of murder and be forced to live in “safe houses” for almost a decade, something is badly wrong in “the most tolerant country in Europe” — and that we have a responsibility to address it honestly, before it gets worse.”


21 posted on 05/14/2012 10:05:53 AM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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To: Road Glide
If there is to be a true struggle that vanquishes Islam from Europe, it must come from them.

It will come from them. As the general populace sees that the mainstream politicians are paid off, they will turn more and more to the hard nationalist parties. That is not necessarily the right -- remember, Hitler's party was socialist.

22 posted on 05/14/2012 11:20:37 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Servant of the Cross
From Gates of Vienna, "At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Geert Wilders is the Churchill fighting in the trenches. He deserves our support. We need many Geert Wilders in America!

"A society that becomes more Muslim will have less of everything else, including individual liberty."

"Geert Wilders is not ready to surrender without exercising his right to know, to utter, and to argue freely — in print, on screen, and at the ballot box. We should cherish that spirit, while we can."

We are Breitbart and Wilders!

Jihad Watch

23 posted on 05/14/2012 11:20:50 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Servant of the Cross; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ..
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The Spirit of Geert Wilders [Steyn]

Those who seek to analyze Islam outside the very narrow bounds of Eutopian political discourse wind up either banned (Belgium’s Vlaams Blok), forced into exile (Ayaan Hirsi Ali), or killed (Fortuyn, van Gogh). - How speedily “the most tolerant country in Europe” has adopted “shoot the messenger” as an all-purpose cure-all for “Islamophobia.”

It’s not “ironic” that the most liberal country in western Europe should be the most advanced in its descent into a profoundly illiberal hell. ... It was entirely foreseeable, and ... all Geert Wilders is doing is stating the obvious: A society that becomes more Muslim will have less of everything else, including individual liberty.

The article is worth the read; check it out.

Thanks, anonymous.

24 posted on 05/14/2012 12:14:16 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Art in Idaho

B U M P


25 posted on 05/14/2012 12:29:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: JLS

” This passage really stood out to me:

‘’ ... It’s not necessary to agree with everything Mr. Wilders says in this book — or, in fact, anything he says — to recognize that, when the leader of the third-biggest party in one of the oldest democratic legislatures on earth has to live under constant threat of murder and be forced to live in “safe houses” for almost a decade, something is badly wrong in “the most tolerant country in Europe” — and that we have a responsibility to address it honestly, before it gets worse.”

To me as well.


26 posted on 05/14/2012 12:31:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: JLS

Wilder has courage.

Steyn has courage.

Where are the rest of the people with courage?


27 posted on 05/14/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-pression.)
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To: Chickensoup

” Wilder has courage.

Steyn has courage.

Where are the rest of the people with courage? “

The military & private citizens....none in D.C.


28 posted on 05/14/2012 1:10:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: LucyT
Geert Wilders Speaks: Anti-Koran Film "Fitna" (Part 1 of 2)

Geert Wilders Fitna A shocking must see.

Other You Tube Videos by Geert Wilders

29 posted on 05/14/2012 1:12:00 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It isn't Islam alone that is the problem, either there or in Canada or, increasingly, in the U.S. The difficulty is that the way for the most radical form of Islam is paved by multicultural precepts and fanatics who have worked their way into the highest offices in academia and government. These pretend to believe that one culture is to be regarded equally with another but act in practice as if Western culture is inherently oppressive and needs to be deliberately curtailed. Into that gap come radicals whose violence is excused or justified. Of course they're not going to stop under those conditions; why should they?

The problem is not simply a highly organized culture of thuggery that will take whatever it is offered - that, alas, is what has happened to the main current of Islam once oil money purchased a revolutionary movement, and not for the first time in the bloody history of that faith. To the modern observer it seems grotesque to claim that once it was among the more tolerant of religions but once, a very long time ago, it was. No longer.

The difference is that it became tolerant only when its excesses were opposed by force, and that is precisely what multiculturalism has taken on as its signal purpose to prevent. It is a lesson in human behavior that transcends religion: thuggery must be opposed by force. That force must evince itself not only internationally but, and perhaps even more importantly, within a culture that is under prodding for weakness: Europe's cultures and our own only to a slightly lesser extent, and only for the time being. Not to do so is to commit suicide, as near as anyone can tell, the suicide of Western culture is the multiculturalists' holy grail.

If the rule of law - OUR law, Constitutional law, not Shari'a - is not imposed with whatever force is necessary, it is worthless. Here is where multiculturalism is the biggest problem - one law, and not Special Rules For Special People, not law twisted in the favor of someone's illusion of "social justice," to right historic wrongs, to "even the playing field", but one law for everyone. That is the only way we will be able to live with Islam in our society. It, and not we, must submit.

30 posted on 05/14/2012 1:48:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Servant of the Cross
And then I took a stroll in the woods, and felt vaguely ashamed at the ease with which I was willing to hand a small victory to his enemies.

Too bad you didn't take a longer stroll over enemies closer to home.

31 posted on 05/14/2012 2:12:33 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Billthedrill
It isn't Islam alone that is the problem, either there or in Canada or, increasingly, in the U.S. The difficulty is that the way for the most radical form of Islam is paved by multicultural precepts and fanatics who have worked their way into the highest offices in academia and government. These pretend to believe that one culture is to be regarded equally with another but act in practice as if Western culture is inherently oppressive and needs to be deliberately curtailed. Into that gap come radicals whose violence is excused or justified. Of course they're not going to stop under those conditions; why should they?

The problem is not simply a highly organized culture of thuggery that will take whatever it is offered - that, alas, is what has happened to the main current of Islam once oil money purchased a revolutionary movement, and not for the first time in the bloody history of that faith. To the modern observer it seems grotesque to claim that once it was among the more tolerant of religions but once, a very long time ago, it was. No longer.

The difference is that it became tolerant only when its excesses were opposed by force, and that is precisely what multiculturalism has taken on as its signal purpose to prevent. It is a lesson in human behavior that transcends religion: thuggery must be opposed by force. That force must evince itself not only internationally but, and perhaps even more importantly, within a culture that is under prodding for weakness: Europe's cultures and our own only to a slightly lesser extent, and only for the time being. Not to do so is to commit suicide, as near as anyone can tell, the suicide of Western culture is the multiculturalists' holy grail.

If the rule of law - OUR law, Constitutional law, not Shari'a - is not imposed with whatever force is necessary, it is worthless. Here is where multiculturalism is the biggest problem - one law, and not Special Rules For Special People, not law twisted in the favor of someone's illusion of "social justice," to right historic wrongs, to "even the playing field", but one law for everyone. That is the only way we will be able to live with Islam in our society. It, and not we, must submit.

I'm keeping a copy of your brilliant post.

32 posted on 05/14/2012 2:21:59 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Yet the same political class responsible for this unprecedented “demographic substitution” (in the words of French demographer Michèle Tribalat) insists the subject remain beyond discussion

Law of Unintended Consequences. Political correctness was foisted by the left upon the West as a tool to weaken it from within. But along the way, they got outflanked by the Muslims, who moved in quicker and more forcefully.

33 posted on 05/14/2012 3:09:48 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Billthedrill
Great comments.

The more I think about our War with Islam, the more I believe the "follow the money" comments are the heart of the matter. Oil money has wooed the academics and politicians - "here's the money, now STFU." Looks at Kagan's $20 million bribe and all the PC mulit-culti 'fairness' and 'social justice' crap our kids are fed.

The new battle plan against Islam stars today with a national push for total energy independence. Sarah Palin is right. Starve the beast.

"Shoot, I must have lived such a doggoned sheltered life as a normal, independent American up there in the Last Frontier, schooled with only public education and a lowly state university degree, because obviously I haven’t learned enough to dismiss common sense (a prerequisite for power in Washington these days). Help me out, friends! Help someone like me – and the majority of Americans – understand why we would ever kowtow and bow to foreign regimes that hate us, instead of doing all we can to starve the beast of terrorism in our plight for security, prosperity, and peace."

34 posted on 05/14/2012 3:40:30 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Two winners:

“So you’re not a pedophile if you deflower the kid in fourth grade but keep her around till high school?”

“So it is necessary for more of us to do what Ayaan Hirsi Ali recommends: share the risk. So that the next time a novel or a cartoon provokes a fatwa, it will be republished worldwide and send the Islamic enforcers a message: Killing one of us won’t do it. You’d better have a great credit line at the Bank of Jihad because you’ll have to kill us all.”


35 posted on 05/14/2012 5:47:59 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Talisker
Too bad you didn't take a longer stroll over enemies closer to home.
_________________________

Steyn has been a fierce advocate of American values and sometimes the sole opposition speaking up against “enemies closer to home.”

Your snarky comment shows your ignorance.

36 posted on 05/14/2012 6:06:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-pression.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Bring back Urban II!


37 posted on 05/14/2012 8:46:59 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Criticizing Mad Mo cost Theo Van Gogh his life.


38 posted on 05/14/2012 10:14:37 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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