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Obama Must End the Attacks on Mormons
Townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2012 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 05/14/2012 6:52:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: vette6387
Call us when you die and finally “know the truth.”

The call you'll get will be from the MORMONs.

51 posted on 05/14/2012 2:55:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Vigilanteman
bate ceases to be healthy when one side attempts to bludgeon or shout down another to silence.

Hie thee to Kolob to buy a new mirror, as yours seems to be faulty.

52 posted on 05/14/2012 2:57:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
You’re going to get some insane posts on this topic from the pro-Obama forces on this forum.

Of course you will point out ALL the "pro-Obama forces" posts.

I await with bated breath..........

53 posted on 05/14/2012 3:03:39 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Vigilanteman
I have yet to see any Mormon website making snarky comments about the "Baptist Jesus"

You probably won't see current "website's" making snarky remarks...But the Founder's of mormonism...most certainly "made snarky comments" And they are plainly documented.

Dude...J.Smith...trashed all/most established Christian faiths, then trashed GOD, and Jesus Christ Himself. So did, B. Young.

What kind of so called Christian Religion founder's do that????

I think you really do understand the history...of mormonism...but continue to run cover for it.

You've been down this road...before. It's easy to look up...yet you continue to apparently not understand it...or refuse to understand it.

54 posted on 05/14/2012 3:21:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Show me any organized religion who doesn't think their brand is right and everybody else is wrong and I'll show you a hollowed-out PC centered church with empty pews and vacant buildings.

You haven't been apparently paying attention to Islam....They are growing, they aren't PC...and they keep building.

Would muslims qualify..for showing you any "organized religion who doesn't think their brand is right and everybody else is wrong"???

55 posted on 05/14/2012 3:31:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Kaslin

Faith should absolutely NOT be off limits. I can’t imagine another aspect of a person that is more relevant to how they’d govern and lead a country than their belief system and values.

Make sure you tell everyone who voted for Romney in the primaries “I told you so.” They have to learn not to be so stupid again to nominate such a born loser. It was said many times by Romney detractors that there’s nothing “electable” about a candidate who will be constantly distracted by questions about his exotic faith, that many voters know nothing about and can easily be persuaded to be scared of the “unknown.” How can a candidate stay “on message” with distractions about things like this and the many hundreds of businesses he was involved in that went bankrupt?

I hold everyone who voted for Romney in the primary personally responsible for giving us 4 more years of Obama.


56 posted on 05/14/2012 3:33:16 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: RC51; Vigilanteman
I have personal knowledge of this faith. There are Mormons in my family. My granddaughter told me at age 6 that she was part of 'the true church', unlike me a reformed Presbyterian. I said to her that is the sin of pride (and BTW what I did not say, it is from the devil).

There is much else hidden in Mormonism from non-Mormons unless they are willing to study and observe.

It does not mean hating Mormons to discover hidden characteristics of their faith and expose them. If one only looks at the surface, like many do at Obama, the faith looks quite pleasant, clean, and normal.

57 posted on 05/14/2012 3:34:37 PM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Elsie
Spam monkey post seven.

Still just counting. Never again reading.....

58 posted on 05/14/2012 4:16:28 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: netmilsmom

It wouldn’t bother me a bit for them to attack Mormonism if there were some conservatives in the media who would attack Islam. But there aren’t. And we’re at war with Islam!


59 posted on 05/14/2012 4:42:56 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Osage Orange
It's 'baited' and you'll have to keep waiting, Orange......

(btw, I just may have cut a few off at the pass. If you think Obama trolls aren't around, you don't know a whole lot about anything.....)

60 posted on 05/14/2012 4:56:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: altura; Jim Robinson; All

“It would also be nice if people here stopped attacking it.”

As long as I have life and breath, I will stand up against and “attack” the enemies of true Christianity. Mormonisn is NOT Christianity, it is a cult based upon the lies of a the most notorius flim flam man of the 19th Century. The equivalent, worse actually, than the 20th Centuries L. Ron Hubbard.

I DO NOT, NOR WILL I EVER SUPPORT OBAMA. However, I feel just a strongly about Romney. He shouldn’t be the GOP candidate and wouldn’t be if the GOPe didn’t force him on us. Voting for that fool is just asking for the GOPe to continue to destroy any chance of ever getting another Ronald Reagan.

Obama is open evil. Romney is insidious evil. Both are evil.

Work on getting conservative Republicans elected to the House and especially Senate (where they can block SCOTUS appointees). However, don’t push the ABO nonsense...there is NO lesser of two evils.


61 posted on 05/14/2012 6:15:26 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: cuban leaf

Boy was that clever. I will have to memorize that.


62 posted on 05/14/2012 6:29:02 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ohioWfan
It's 'baited' and you'll have to keep waiting, Orange......

FWIW-...It is "bated"....and you are wrong. Look it up. I can give you the link if you want......Ha! But I promise...it's bated...not baited.

63 posted on 05/14/2012 6:40:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange
You may wish to reread your post. You just supported my statement.

Muslims definitely think their brand is right and everybody else is wrong.

It would be nice if more Christian sects felt the same. No hallowed-out church will ever beat them with a "believe whatever, ten suggestions" PC mindset.

Indeed, they might even fail to survive.

64 posted on 05/14/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Elsie

Elsie - wake me up when Mormons are blowing themselves up and flying planes into buildings and paying $$$$ to the families of terrorists....

Shame on you for comparing a thing like Islam to an actual religion.


65 posted on 05/14/2012 7:03:34 PM PDT by RC51
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To: dennisw

I’m gonna guess you are being sarcastic. That being said, I said the same thing in 2008: That the good news about a Romney run is that the core beliefs taught by Mormonism will be vetted. That is actually a lot more important than who becomes president.


66 posted on 05/14/2012 7:14:06 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

You want the Mormon beliefs to be “vetted” in the public space? LOL - I’m still waiting on Islam to get a proper vetting.

Again wake me up when Mormons are plotting to overthrow governments and murder thousands of women and children.


67 posted on 05/14/2012 7:18:47 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

—Again wake me up when Mormons are plotting to overthrow governments and murder thousands of women and children—

Which is worse, a religion that kills the body or a religion that teaches a false Christ and laeds its adherents to eternal death, even if their body lives to be a hundred?

The eternal is the higher principle. A religion that kills people’s body’s just does what is going to happen eventually anyway. Not good, but not as bad as a religion that has eternal consequences.

But both are bad.


68 posted on 05/14/2012 7:27:48 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RC51
I find it ironic that people who are accused of being “Fake Christians” live their lives day in - day out more Jesus-like than “Real Christians”...

That has been my experience too, both in Arizona, here on FR, and here in Ohio.

When asked about false prophets, Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them." The LDS church, like the catholic church, continues to grow and flourish. The protestant sects are all shrinking, and some are plain dying. Pretty much says it all.

69 posted on 05/14/2012 8:06:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: cuban leaf

I’d ask the people who worked in the World Trade Center Twin Towers but they were unavailable for comment.


70 posted on 05/14/2012 8:08:35 PM PDT by RC51
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To: RC51

Life is a mist. Murder is tragic, no doubt. But according to the apostle Paul, for us to live is Christ and to die is gain.

And one should not fear him who can kill the body, but Him who can kill the body and soul.

There literally is a fate worse than death. Those that consider death the worst travesty that could happen to a Christian are missing the point.


71 posted on 05/14/2012 8:12:10 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ohioWfan
I figure you are busy....or just don't want to admit you were wrong.

I will wait with BATED breath....your answer. : )

72 posted on 05/14/2012 10:13:34 PM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: ohioWfan
Never again reading.....

I don't care.

You apparently are willing to overlook the SINS of the MORMON leaders.

I will contunie to show them every time someone glosses over MORMON history and says "it mattereth not".

73 posted on 05/15/2012 4:03:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Osage Orange
And they are plainly documented.

IN this THREAD!

74 posted on 05/15/2012 4:05:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Terry Mross
And we’re at war with Islam!

Oh??
 
 
 

US is not at war with Islam, says ...


guardian.co.uk
Apr 6, 2009

 


75 posted on 05/15/2012 4:10:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I’m willing to bet that you have more sins than any Mormon leader has every had. You are one of the worst supposed Christians I have ever come across. If I was you, I’d start worrying more about myself and less about other people.


76 posted on 05/15/2012 4:12:51 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: ohioWfan
It's 'baited' and you'll have to keep waiting, Orange......

Sigh...

You're proven wrong again.

http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/bated+breath.html

77 posted on 05/15/2012 4:12:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Vigilanteman
It would be nice if more Christian sects felt the same.

What?

I thought you complained about them doing just that?

78 posted on 05/15/2012 4:14:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RC51
Elsie - wake me up when Mormons are blowing themselves up and flying planes into buildings and paying $$$$ to the families of terrorists....


I do not feel threatened by it because I don’t think that they will be attempting to convert by the sword.
 

The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,
and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,
 has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”
 
-- Historian Robert Carter

79 posted on 05/15/2012 4:16:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RC51
Elsie - wake me up when Mormons are blowing themselves up and flying planes into buildings and paying $$$$ to the families of terrorists....


MMM

80 posted on 05/15/2012 4:16:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RC51

https://www.google.com/search?q=Mormons+are+blowing+themselves+up&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475


81 posted on 05/15/2012 4:17:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RC51
I’m still waiting on Islam to get a proper vetting.

Slacker!

Quit waiting and merely post their stuff.

Then wait for a comment like Flying Inman to appear, recruite your own cabal and there you go!

Vet to your hearts content!

82 posted on 05/15/2012 4:20:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RC51
I’m still waiting on Islam to get a proper vetting.

Slacker!

Quit waiting and merely post their stuff.

Then wait for a comment like Flying Inman to appear, recruite your own cabal and there you go!

Vet to your heart's content!

83 posted on 05/15/2012 4:20:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: hinckley buzzard
When asked about false prophets, Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them."

 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


84 posted on 05/15/2012 4:22:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: hinckley buzzard
When asked about false prophets, Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them."


85 posted on 05/15/2012 4:23:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: hinckley buzzard
When asked about false prophets, Jesus said "By their fruits ye shall know them."

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/josephsmithsbank.htm

86 posted on 05/15/2012 4:24:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: beandog
I’m willing to bet that you have more sins than any Mormon leader has every had.

You may be right; but at least I am not pushing a FALSE religion upon the unsuspecting.

87 posted on 05/15/2012 4:26:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
I'm amused that you think I'd dialogue with a deceitful UNChristian spam monkey.

Give it up.

88 posted on 05/15/2012 6:56:55 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
I'm amused that you think I'd dialogue with a deceitful UNChristian spam monkey.

And yet; you waste your time snapping back at me.

HMMmmm...

89 posted on 05/15/2012 8:42:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

“The call you’ll get will be from the MORMONs.”

So you are just like the BAC’s! They think you will be getting the call from THEM!
Everyone “just knows” that their religion is the “REAL ONE.”


90 posted on 05/15/2012 9:46:46 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

BAC?

enlighten me.


91 posted on 05/15/2012 11:28:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: cuban leaf

I could care less about Mormonism. My objective is to boot Moochie + Obama from the White House. If a Mormon can do it then more power to him and I’ll vote for him while you look like you will be tossing yours in the garbage


92 posted on 05/15/2012 12:24:26 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: vette6387
Everyone “just knows” that their religion is the “REAL ONE.”

Many American Indian tribes called themselves "The People" as in better than all other tribes. So tribe X, Y and Z all thought they were unique and the best and that their sorry tribal religion was the best. Muslim think their and their cult is the pinnacle of being human. I hear the Mormons think they are the best. Jews call themselves "Chosen" to obey a unique Covenant

I'll be voting Romney even though I laugh at some of the Mormon theology I have heard

 

93 posted on 05/15/2012 12:29:28 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

—I could care less about Mormonism. My objective is to boot Moochie + Obama from the White House. If a Mormon can do it then more power to him and I’ll vote for him while you look like you will be tossing yours in the garbage

I am focused more on the eternal. The souls of men. Who is president is just a temporary condition in our temporary world. This is, in a very real sense, the Matrix. Eternity is the “real” world. What affects that is infinitely (literally) more important than what affects par or all of mankind in this life.


94 posted on 05/15/2012 12:30:40 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin

Not gonna happen. The mine is too rich to turn away, and Mormons usually choose not to defend their faith when pressed. I’ve seen perfectly good candidates lose because of this, and Obama knows it.

Count on him to lean on this button hard and repeatedly.


95 posted on 05/15/2012 2:01:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Elsie

I’m guessing Born Again Christian ...


96 posted on 05/15/2012 2:04:02 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Tea Party movement: more obstinate, unyielding and hostile to Democrats …)
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To: Servant of the Cross
That makes sense:

John 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

If one does NOT believe the Book is the Word of GOD; then they are free to 'believe' whatever their little heart tells them.

97 posted on 05/15/2012 2:25:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Elsie, for every one line you post that represents an actual expression of your own thoughts, there are about 999 lines from the First Reformed Church of HTML Cut & Paste.

This is why you get so little respect on these threads.

98 posted on 05/17/2012 3:17:30 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Notary Sojac
This is why you get so little respect on these threads.

Is that so?

I wondered why!


After ALL of the Official MORMON stuff I post; I was supposing folks were tired of reading about the heresy that calls itself MORMONism.



99 posted on 05/17/2012 6:49:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Notary Sojac
Elsie, for every one line you post that represents an actual expression of your own thoughts, there are about 999 lines from the First Reformed Church of HTML Cut & Paste.

If a picture is worth a thousand words; I guess a cartoon is worth a thousand mocks.

100 posted on 05/17/2012 6:50:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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